Bad police officer

[Natasha]

His address would should up if he called from a land line right?
But how would he know it was a choking unless it was outdoors?
But lets say it was him that called and the cop went to his house..it would be the cops error by going up to a witness as a suspect..if that was the case.

Major error...while possible not likely.
Which makes me think the call originated from within the house with the violence.

Around here alot of houses dont have numbers..if one was in a hurry he could very well go up to a wrong house.

I am just guessing here..but i think its possible the cop went to the wrong house...but was given the right address

Except the article SPECIFICALLY states that he went to the address provided by the 911 call. Which leads me to believe that it was either a wrong address given OR landmarks were given (such as "I'm at 116, but it's the house next door to me") that weren't relayed. A lot of houses don't have landlines...and, even if they do, they don't use them when calling 911.

Bottom line is the officer went to what he was under the impression was the suspect's house. So when you think you're face to face w/ a violent man who is telling you that his dog isn't going to attack you, what would YOU do???

For the record, I've been drinking tonight, so my responses right now may not make much sense. I apologize in advance, LOL

 

[The Man]

Except the article SPECIFICALLY states that he went to the address provided by the 911 call. Which leads me to believe that it was either a wrong address given OR landmarks were given (such as "I'm at 116, but it's the house next door to me") that weren't relayed. A lot of houses don't have landlines...and, even if they do, they don't use them when calling 911.

Bottom line is the officer went to what he was under the impression was the suspect's house. So when you think you're face to face w/ a violent man who is telling you that his dog isn't going to attack you, what would YOU do???

For the record, I've been drinking tonight, so my responses right now may not make much sense. I apologize in advance, LOL

I would sue the neighbors if they led the cops to the wrong address....or would try anyway

 

[Joe the meek]

Bottom line is the officer went to what he was under the impression was the suspect's house. So when you think you're face to face w/ a violent man who is telling you that his dog isn't going to attack you, what would YOU do???

Cops can make mistakes and people can pay a high price.

That said, if this same scenario played out at my own home, chances are there would be one less cop on the streets.

One reason why I don't live in the city.

 

[Francis]

His address would should up if he called from a land line right?
But how would he know it was a choking unless it was outdoors?
But lets say it was him that called and the cop went to his house..it would be the cops error by going up to a witness as a suspect..if that was the case.

Major error...while possible not likely.
Which makes me think the call originated from within the house with the violence.

Around here alot of houses dont have numbers..if one was in a hurry he could very well go up to a wrong house.

I am just guessing here..but i think its possible the cop went to the wrong house...but was given the right address

Why so.. The call could well have been placed from a Cell Phone.. We certainly do not know the circumstances and all the details of that call.. Was it an older Cell phone with no GPS making it hard to triangulate the location with certainly no address certainty of the incident.. You can't blame a citizen for trying to help if a true issue might have been occurring than no one will due their duty as a Good Samaritan..

 

[The Man]

Why so.. The call could well have been placed from a Cell Phone.. We certainly do not know the circumstances and all the details of that call.. Was it an older Cell phone with no GPS making it hard to triangulate the location with certainly no address certainty of the incident.. You can't blame a citizen for trying to help if a true issue might have been occurring than no one will due their duty as a Good Samaritan..

Why so.. The call could well have been placed from a Cell Phone

Was trying to ascertain why he may have went to the wrong address..the reason I mention landline is the caller{possible victim} may have had to cut the call short thus incomplete information

We certainly do not know the circumstances and all the details of that call.

Thats why I said I am guessing.

Was it an older Cell phone with no GPS making it hard to triangulate the location with certainly no address certainty of the incident..

You assume now it was a cell phone?

You can't blame a citizen for trying to help if a true issue might have been occurring than no one will due their duty as a Good Samaritan.

I didnt blame the citizen in that post..I said the cop may have committed an error

 

[Darrell]

One reason why I don't live in the city.

You would kill a cop because he shot your dog when it was coming toward him aggressively?

That speaks VOLUMES for your character. Unfortunately for you, it doesn't say anything good.

 

[Francis]

You assume now it was a cell phone?



I didnt blame the citizen in that post..I said the cop may have committed an error

Did you watch the Video I posted ?

At about 3:17 in the video the person in the 9/11 call says, "we were just driving by" ?

When was the last time you made a call from a landline in your car.. Its most common to have a Cell Phone today than a landline..

So seeing neither of us were there, I guess I am going on the best information available to me..

 

[The Man]

Did you watch the Video I posted ?

At about 3:17 in the video the person in the 9/11 call says, "we were just driving by" ?

When was the last time you made a call from a landline in your car.. Its most common to have a Cell Phone today than a landline..

So seeing neither of us were there, I guess I am going on the best information available to me..

Didnt watch the video.
I have a data cap..so I dont watch many of the videos posted.

 

[Joe the meek]

You would kill a cop because he shot your dog when it was coming toward him aggressively?

That speaks VOLUMES for your character. Unfortunately for you, it doesn't say anything good.

Do you know for a FACT how the dog was acting towards the police officer?

You have no clue what it would take for the police to come to my house and have myself be put in the same situation.

5 dogs that I have are TRAINED to retreat from the sight of ANY kind of firearm. The only way a dog of mine would "stand it's ground" is at night with them not being able to see the firearm.

Most police officers consider a dog barking at them as a threat, which is far from the case.

I live in an area where I get a phone call at night from the sheriff asking me if it's me doing all the shooting and I have to tell him it's Frank a couple miles down the road.

I said there would be one less cop, I did not say how that would happen.

For better or worse, killing is killing. Doesn't matter what kind of clothes the person is wearing or what kind of animal it is, it's still dead.

My dogs are trained to ALERT me of danger, nothing more. They have my back, I have their back, just as I do with my good friends.

Now, if one of my dogs attacked a LEO and that LEO was doing nothing but being there, my dog deserves to be killed. Got no problems with that.

Most people in today's "fast fix" society have no clue what true character is.

Side note, proud to say some LEO's consider my their friend, and that's good enough for me that what people may think of me on an internet forum.

 

[Darrell]

Do you know for a FACT how the dog was acting towards the police officer?

Nope, but in the tape I can hear the dog barking, and I can hear the officer instruct the man to grab his dog. If the owner cannot get control of his animal, it's fairly safe to assume, it's out of control.

You have no clue what it would take for the police to come to my house and have myself be put in the same situation.

Okay? :dunno

5 dogs that I have are TRAINED to retreat from the sight of ANY kind of firearm. The only way a dog of mine would "stand it's ground" is at night with them not being able to see the firearm.

NOW that is impressive. I sincerely applaud you for that.

Most police officers consider a dog barking at them as a threat, which is far from the case.

Fears or what one considers "threatening" is subjective. That officer is going to be cleared because he didn't do anything WRONG.

I live in an area where I get a phone call at night from the sheriff asking me if it's me doing all the shooting and I have to tell him it's Frank a couple miles down the road.

Lucky you.

I said there would be one less cop, I did not say how that would happen.

This is laughable. Go ahead and back peddle. Doesn't make any difference to me. I'm not the one that suggested I'd take a cop off the street for shooting my dog.

Most people in today's "fast fix" society have no clue what true character is. Proud to say some LEO's consider my their friend, and that's good enough for me.

That's nice Joe, I hope none of them get called to your home by mistake, and have to shoot one of your dogs. It will be really awkward for the family to have you at your buddies funeral in shackles.

 

[Tim]

I wonder how this could have played out in Florida with their Stand your ground laws.

A cop comes onto your property gun drawn and within a matter of seconds shoots and kills your dog. If you were also armed and returned fire to protect your home/property would you be exonerated?

I mean think about it, there have been burglaries, hold-ups and rapes perpetrated by people dressed as cops, right?

 

[Darrell]

I wonder how this could have played out in Florida with their Stand your ground laws.

A cop comes onto your property gun drawn and within a matter of seconds shoots and kills your dog. If you were also armed and returned fire to protect your home/property would you be exonerated?

I mean think about it, there have been burglaries, hold-ups and rapes perpetrated by people dressed as cops, right?

That's actually a good point, Tim. I wonder how that would have played out. I get the feeling though, regardless of the law, shooting a cop, probably IS NOT going to end in your favor. You know?

 

[AnitaBeer]

The person wasn't given a chance to get his dog. He was told to put his arms up and within 3 seconds the dog was shot. Lets all try this out and see if we can get to our animals in three seconds while trying to figure out what will happen to us if we put our arms down.....
NOW if that person HAD attempted to move then the officer could have shot him too and say the guy was attempting to get away. Ok he may not have shot him but still.
What, exactly, was the guy to do?!
Then the cop sat there and made the guy feel guilty about the situation...no freaking thank you!

BTW I don't have any issues with officers and this makes me mad.

 

[Joe the meek]

That's actually a good point, Tim. I wonder how that would have played out. I get the feeling though, regardless of the law, shooting a cop, probably IS NOT going to end in your favor. You know?

May not end in my favor, but If I KNOW I'm in the right, I'll die trying to protect those that I love.

If any local LEO were to come over to my house, both they and I know the rules.

As long as I do what I feel is right, I'll take my chance in front a jury IF it comes to that.

That is one advantage to not living in a crowed infested city of sheeple where the sheeple depend on the law to try and protect them, and then if they don't get their way, they sue.

 

[The Man]

I cant see how it could happen...being as fast as this incident happened...cop runs up and shoots dog.
The dog owner has no clue what is going on "Am I next?'....I think 3 seconds past from announcement until the dog shooting
Especially since it was just a blue healer ...a city dog without a chain..pretty harmless..if it was going to attack people it would have already done it....That cop would make a poor trash man..poor meter reader..poor mail man..poor pizza guy....poor anything.
Needs to be fired at a minimum IMO......could have been a human

 

[Joe the meek]

I cant see how it could happen...being as fast as this incident happened...cop runs up and shoots dog.
The dog owner has no clue what is going on "Am I next?'....I think 3 seconds pasted from announcement until the dog shooting
Especially since it was just a blue healer ...a city dog without a chain..pretty harmless..if it was going to attack people it would have already done it....That cop would make a poor trash man..poor meter reader..poor mail man..poor pizza guy....poor anything.
Needs to be fired at a minimum IMO......could have been a human

Simple

Cop had his sidearm drawn and his adrenaline was pumping. He saw a dog move towards him, automatically thought the dog was a threat, and shot the dog.

For better or worse, lot easier with less explaining to do when shooting a dog.

 

[Dana]

Who knows whether or not this dog was carrying a weapon? Did this dog follow him? What was the dog doing there anyway?

Too many unanswered questions. We can't even hypothesize as to what happened. This officer has rights. Stand your ground. Self defence.

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