Bad police officer

[darkcgi]

my hate for cops doesnt come out of my ass it comes from experience

 

[Natasha]

my hate for cops doesnt come out of my ass it comes from experience

That still doesn't mean that EVERY cop is crooked. I interact w/ police officers every single day. Have I run into my fair share of bad ones??? Of course!!! But the vast majority are good officers. The bad ones get weeded out pretty quickly.

It's no different than any other profession.

 

[darkcgi]

didnt say every cop is crooked did I
nope sure didnt
I also interact with police officers everyday
EVERYDAY
Its my job
however I have had a ton of bad personal experiences with them but not everyone has but I have
and I dont think every cop is crooked
so dont judge me I am not judging you

doesnt mean I cannot make the statment I hate cops I didnt say I hate ALL cops
I will not make anymore comments on this subject cause I can see where it is going

Yes I'm glad we have police officers
that are good where ever they are.

Last police officer that pulled me over. 2 of them. One was the antagonistic and one was nice
they together said they were pulling me over cause they had a complaint of my passing people. So first off passing people is not illegal. Second they never saw me doing it and third I wasn't doing it. They just though my junky car looked suspicious. So mean cop starts harassing me verbally. Asked to search my vehicle. Found a empty cough medicine bottle (kids cough medicine) then made statements of me making meth. Then found a pair of female socks of my girlfriends. Accused me of being a transvestite. Then I went off called me a rookie and that he had no reason to pull me over. I got the name of their police chief. I had my boss call him and I called them to let them know they need to more concerned with their citizens that the good ones of us pay taxes and and pay their salaries and that they cop might cause a big scene without cause. He said he would look into it and call us back. He did nothing.
this is only just one of nearly 100 issues that I have personally dealt with with police officers. I had only one innocent where I called the police and they helped me. The rest was just bullshit and hassle.

So that is the last of my comments before I get in trouble for having an opinion again.

 

[Joe the meek]

my hate for cops doesnt come out of my ass it comes from experience

I don't hate cops at all. Numerous times some LEO's come over to do some handgun shooting to boot and I'm certain John will vouch to the fact that I usually come to the defense of police.

That said, on MY property, without just cause, if someone were to kill one of my animals (LEO or no LEO), as mentioned, the situation would of turn out VERY bad.

Something like this is no different that some LEO's coming to your home with guns drawn with a search warrant, break the door down and enter. They do something like that, all bets are off.

 

[Natasha]

No offense, Donny, but if your interactions w/ police officers go downhill as quickly as your interactions HERE do, I can understand why you have problems.

 

[Francis]

Austin Police Cpl. Anthony Hipolito told ABCNews.com that the officer did respond to the wrong address, but it was the address provided by the 911 call. The call came from the house next to Paxton's.

Does that mean he did not feel bad about what happened and why it happened .. NO..

It's easy to judge a story based on bias news article.. Nice dog gets killed bad mean old police officer.. But lets not forget that nice dog was in attack mode, got away from its owner and was not stopping at the command from that owner.

And Yah I would be upset but I think even the owner was more upset at the fact they had not apologized to him personally than anything else.

Not the officer who went where he was told and had a dog come at him.. Just my opinion..

 

[Darrell]

A series of unfortunate events, for all involved. RIP Cisco, but I certainly understand the officers actions.

 

[Tim]

Do US police officer wear pepper spray ( ours do ) like postmen ( ours do ) to ward off animals ?

Yes, according to this article the office had pepper spray and a taser on him.
I would be pissed that the officer used excessive force, he did not need to shoot the dog. Pepper spray works just as good on animals as it does people.

 

[Darrell]

The article said this went down within 30 seconds.

So, in 30 seconds it's expected that after confronting the dog owner (which at the time was assumed to be one involved in the domestic abuse call), he should be able to ascertain the cause for the call, deem the scene, and the man he has confronted to be safe, safety, and holster his duty weapon, draw his pepper spray or tazer, and fire. All while a dog is charging at him, and barking. A dog that the OWNER could not even manage to get control of. Sorry, but pepper spray was not a viable alternative given this situation.

This officer did nothing wrong. Aside from going to the wrong house due to bad information provided by 911.

 

[Tim]

The article said this went down within 30 seconds.

So, in 30 seconds it's expected that after confronting the dog owner (which at the time was assumed to be one involved in the domestic abuse call), he should be able to ascertain the cause for the call, deem the scene, and the man he has confronted to be safe, safety, and holster his duty weapon, draw his pepper spray or tazer, and fire. All while a dog is charging at him, and barking. A dog that the OWNER could not even manage to get control of. Sorry, but pepper spray was not a viable alternative given this situation.

This officer did nothing wrong. Aside from going to the wrong house due to bad information provided by 911.

30 seconds are an eternity...

you can't tell me that a this guy didn't have time to pull his pepper spray after he heard the dog barking and running after him.
You don't need to holster your weapon before pulling the pepper spray.

No where in the story did it say the dog was sprinting towards the officer. It says the dog was challenging him and barking, exactly what my dog would do if you came onto my property. Hell, I would have said the same thing to the cop, "Don't shoot, the dog won't bite" If this went down as fast as you think it did, he would have never had the time to tell the cop the dog wouldn't bite.

This was a scared cop that shit his pants because a 50lb dog was barking at him.

 

[Mercury]

The article said this went down within 30 seconds.

So, in 30 seconds it's expected that after confronting the dog owner (which at the time was assumed to be one involved in the domestic abuse call), he should be able to ascertain the cause for the call, deem the scene, and the man he has confronted to be safe, safety, and holster his duty weapon, draw his pepper spray or tazer, and fire. All while a dog is charging at him, and barking. A dog that the OWNER could not even manage to get control of. Sorry, but pepper spray was not a viable alternative given this situation.

This officer did nothing wrong. Aside from going to the wrong house due to bad information provided by 911.

Well said. :thumbup

 

[Darrell]

You don't need to holster your weapon before pulling the pepper spray.

Really? So, he should have taken one hand off his service weapon, grabbed his pepper spray or tazer, and fired that while still holding his service weapon in one hand? I won't even go into how ugly that situation could have been with a police officer now holding pepper spray in one hand, and a loaded firearm in the other. That spells DISASTER.

No where in the story did it say the dog was sprinting towards the officer.

Technically, you're right. However, this quote led me to believe that he wasn't just trotting up to the officer, either:

"The officer was basically in retreat and asked the owner to grab the dog," Hipolito said. "He was unable to and the dog continued to attack and that's when the officer discharged his firearm."

 

[Panacea]

30 seconds are an eternity...

you can't tell me that a this guy didn't have time to pull his pepper spray after he heard the dog barking and running after him.
You don't need to holster your weapon before pulling the pepper spray.

No where in the story did it say the dog was sprinting towards the officer. It says the dog was challenging him and barking, exactly what my dog would do if you came onto my property. Hell, I would have said the same thing to the cop, "Don't shoot, the dog won't bite" If this went down as fast as you think it did, he would have never had the time to tell the cop the dog wouldn't bite.

This was a scared cop that shit his pants because a 50lb dog was barking at him.

No doubt it's terrifying to have an animal come at you, but I agree with this. I would hope a police officer wouldn't go for his gun first when scared by a medium sized cattle dog , but that's the world we live in. A hot mess most of the time.

 

[Tim]

You meet less than lethal force with less than lethal force.

I don't care how you slice it up, this dog at 50lbs was not a threat to this officers life. Even if properly trained a 50lb dog would not have killed the officer.

I'm not a dog loving zealot nor am I a cop hater, but this officer took the pussy way out to avoid a possible bite when there were other options at hand. This was a professionally trained officer that should be able to handle his weapon and or any situation that arises. This wasn't some joe blow who doesn't know how to handle a weapon.

 

[Tim]

How many of us have come face to face with a large barking dog? And how many of those dogs actually took the next step and attacked?

Yet we are all still here with no dead dogs to show for it.

Go figure......

 

[hart]

Yes, according to this article the office had pepper spray and a taser on him.
I would be pissed that the officer used excessive force, he did not need to shoot the dog. Pepper spray works just as good on animals as it does people.

:homo:

 

[Natasha]

Yet we are all still here with no dead dogs to show for it.

Actually, I've been involved in 2 incidents where lethal force was used against dogs.

 

[Darrell]

I don't care how you slice it up, this dog at 50lbs was not a threat to this officers life. Even if properly trained a 50lb dog would not have killed the officer.

I'll agree with you that it is NOT likely that officer would have been killed, had the animal attacked.

However, your general statement left out some considerations.

The dog easily alluded the capture of his owner, according to the officer, what if the dog had jumped on the officer, and bit him in the jugular? That's fairly common practice for a dog that is taking down it's prey or defending itself.

Additionally, if that didn't happen, there is still a considerable risk that the dog could hit an artery while biting the officer. That can very easily end in death if medical attention does not arrive immediately.

My point to all of this. It's a tragic event, but the officer didn't execute the dog. He followed the ROE, and did what was necessary to stop the threat.

 

[Tim]

Actually, I've been involved in 2 incidents where lethal force was used against dogs.

Didn't you just admit earlier that you didn't know that pepper spray works on dogs?

So you were present when these dogs were killed? And what were the circumstances?

 

[Natasha]

Didn't you just admit earlier that you didn't know that pepper spray works on dogs?

No, I said that I didn't think I had ever seen it used on a dog. Two totally different statements. In my 11 plus years, I could have easily forgotten a time when pepper spray was used instead of gunfire...but none come to mind off the top of my head.

So you were present when these dogs were killed? And what were the circumstances?

Yes, I was...and you guys know that I can't discuss the circumstances w/o violating SOP.