at the height of hypocrisy

[anodomi]

Oh gross, people really do that?!? I thought that was just something you saw in old redneck movies....lol

me too. I have never even seen it for sale anywhere:yuk

I agree, yuk, but it seems to be the new thing where I live which is a very suburban area. I find bottles filled with tobacco spit or empty tins on my curb all the time. I know it's the young guys in the neighborhood. Many of them are into sports and I guess they think it's better than smoking cigarettes. :thumbdown

 

[skyblue]

chewing tobacco is the most disgusting thing ever invented

 

[RedRyder]

Do you use your company computers and time to access the internet? If so what's the difference?

Huh? WTF are you talking about. I said that this co-worker was going around talking shit and telling people they were unprofessional, while she was acting unprofessional herself. It was hypocritical of her to be expecting something of other people, while doing similar things herself.

I have no clue what this has to do with me, except that you're trying (very badly) to troll me. Pathetic.

This is what you said in your OP. Note the bold part. Also note the underlined part.



All the rest of your comments were added after the fact.

As far as trolling you ... na. I'm just following the bouncing ball in threads that catch my attention as this one has.

Considering my question is on topic are you going to answer it or not?

Let me dumb this down for you, since you're once again incapable of understanding.

New coworker was telling people that they were being unprofessional by talking and laughing with each other.

Yet.

The last two days she's spent an hour on the phone with someone yesterday, and hour on the phone with someone this morning, and then talked to her boyfriend on the phone for another hour. She also yelled at someone for not having information she wanted then and there, right after asking that person for it.

I'm stating that it is hypocritical of her to accuse people of being unprofessional, when she behaves in an unprofessional manner herself.

Clear enough?

Retro I know what you said in your OP and that's what's important right now. I want you to answer my question. Is that so hard for you to understand?

Your question is completely irrelevant to the conversation. We're talking about my coworker accusing people of being unprofessional, while doing things that are generally acceptable to be unprofessional herself.

Retro..... I read the above posts a few times each just so that I wasn't missing something. Pretty sure this is what Guyzerr was implying....

You are at work..... using the internet..... on company time..... on OTz and who knows where else..... That, Retro.... is unprofessional to say the least. Unless of course you get gobs of breaks and a lengthy lunch break to boot and choose to be on the internet whilst at work.

And..... If gobs of breaks and a lengthy lunch break to boot and choosing to be on the internet whilst at work ISN'T the case.... That means you yourself are totally at the 'height of hypocrisy' as your own thread suggests. See how one might jump to that conclusion? Ummmm.... I mean two now. Guyzerr and me. *shrugs*

 

[retro]

Retro..... I read the above posts a few times each just so that I wasn't missing something. Pretty sure this is what Guyzerr was implying....

You are at work..... using the internet..... on company time..... on OTz and who knows where else..... That, Retro.... is unprofessional to say the least. Unless of course you get gobs of breaks and a lengthy lunch break to boot and choose to be on the internet whilst at work.

And..... If gobs of breaks and a lengthy lunch break to boot and choosing to be on the internet whilst at work ISN'T the case.... That means you yourself are totally at the 'height of hypocrisy' as your own thread suggests. See how one might jump to that conclusion? Ummmm.... I mean two now. Guyzerr and me. *shrugs*

Oh no... see, I know exactly what Guyzerr was implying. The difference is that I'm not calling anyone unprofessional. I'm saying that it's hypocritical of her to be holding others to a standard that she can't hold herself to. Him choosing another thread to again try to attack me in was childish at best. What I do or do not do is wholly irrelevant to this discussion.

Let me break it down for those that are apparently way too fucking dense to understand.

Person A calls Group B unprofessional for talking and joking
Person A also spends an inordinate amount of time on personal phone calls, along with dipping tobacco and spitting it into a bottle while she's talking to people.

Person A is therefore holding Group B to a different standard than she holds herself to. Therefore, Person A is behaving in a hypocritical manner.

Clear enough now?

 

[RedRyder]

Oh no... see, I know exactly what Guyzerr was implying. The difference is that I'm not calling anyone unprofessional. I'm saying that it's hypocritical of her to be holding others to a standard that she can't hold herself to. Him choosing another thread to again try to attack me in was childish at best. What I do or do not do is wholly irrelevant to this discussion.

Let me break it down for those that are apparently way too fucking dense to understand.

Person A calls Group B unprofessional for talking and joking
Person A also spends an inordinate amount of time on personal phone calls, along with dipping tobacco and spitting it into a bottle while she's talking to people.

Person A is therefore holding Group B to a different standard than she holds herself to. Therefore, Person A is behaving in a hypocritical manner.

Clear enough now?

I'm glad you posted here and weren't planning on just leaving me that rep comment. :cool

Now..... let me think about your post and get back to you..... I've got to clear my foggy fucking density to understand you better. :ninja

 

[retro]

There's nothing that difficult to understand. What I do or do not do is completely irrelevant. It was childish and petty (though not in the least bit surprising) of Guyzerr to attempt to shift the focus towards me, which has absolutely nothing to do with this thread.

But... bravo to Guyzerr on his masterful red herring. :clap

 

[Guyzerr]

Retro..... I read the above posts a few times each just so that I wasn't missing something. Pretty sure this is what Guyzerr was implying....

You are at work..... using the internet..... on company time..... on OTz and who knows where else..... That, Retro.... is unprofessional to say the least. Unless of course you get gobs of breaks and a lengthy lunch break to boot and choose to be on the internet whilst at work.

And..... If gobs of breaks and a lengthy lunch break to boot and choosing to be on the internet whilst at work ISN'T the case.... That means you yourself are totally at the 'height of hypocrisy' as your own thread suggests. See how one might jump to that conclusion? Ummmm.... I mean two now. Guyzerr and me. *shrugs*

:homo:

It really doesn't matter how you break it down he won't see the light on this issue either.

 

[Guyzerr]

Let me break it down for those that are apparently way too fucking dense to understand.

You want to know something Retro. You loose the respect of the majority of posters when you use phrases such at that which btw is becoming more frequent. Maybe you need to take a good look at yourself in the mirror and ask yourself who the dense culprit really is the.

 

[RedRyder]

My new co-worker that I share an office with has been going around talking about how people are being unprofessional in the office. Unprofessional by standing around talking and laughing and shit sometimes.

Yet...

She's talked to a friend of hers for an hour each time (don't know if it's the same friend) yesterday afternoon and this morning. She talks so loudly that she practically yells. Oh, and she has dipping tobacco in her mouth all the time and spits into a bottle in front of people. Then she was just practically screaming at someone because they didn't have the information she was looking for right then and there.

:willy_nilly:

You are right..... She doesn't mention those people who are using the internet not business related. Somehow I missed that.

Oh no... see, I know exactly what Guyzerr was implying. The difference is that I'm not calling anyone unprofessional. I'm saying that it's hypocritical of her to be holding others to a standard that she can't hold herself to. Him choosing another thread to again try to attack me in was childish at best. What I do or do not do is wholly irrelevant to this discussion.

Let me break it down for those that are apparently way too fucking dense to understand.

Person A calls Group B unprofessional for talking and joking
Person A also spends an inordinate amount of time on personal phone calls, along with dipping tobacco and spitting it into a bottle while she's talking to people.

Person A is therefore holding Group B to a different standard than she holds herself to. Therefore, Person A is behaving in a hypocritical manner.

Clear enough now?

Again. Clearly I can now see where I saw the word YETin your original post that led me to believe that you were showing in the first part about her saying things about others being unprofessional..... and when I saw YET.... that to me meant However.... But..... meaning you were pointing out her being unprofessional.....

How did you mean the word YET to be seen when used in that particular spot otherwise? *shrugs*

There's nothing that difficult to understand. What I do or do not do is completely irrelevant. It was childish and petty (though not in the least bit surprising) of Guyzerr to attempt to shift the focus towards me, which has absolutely nothing to do with this thread.

But... bravo to Guyzerr on his masterful red herring. :clap

That right there seems to be some of the issue. :nod:

Now.... Let's not shift the focus on Guyzerr when it really is all about what you said and think, and how you interpret questions directed at you. It's only natural that others will question things said.

Gotta love good communication skills when that happens.

 

[Guyzerr]

There's nothing that difficult to understand. What I do or do not do is completely irrelevant. It was childish and petty (though not in the least bit surprising) of Guyzerr to attempt to shift the focus towards me, which has absolutely nothing to do with this thread.

But... bravo to Guyzerr on his masterful red herring. :clap

That's where you have it all wrong Retro. I would have asked that question regardless of who started the thread. Unfortunately it happened to be you and in your typical uncivilized style have resorted to your childish slams again where everyone except you is the idiot.

When you refused to answer my question it told me everything I needed to know. It tells me you do waste your employers time and money albeit in a different style then she does. So what... it still makes you as hypocritical as the gal you're so disgusted with.

 

[retro]

That's where you have it all wrong Retro. I would have asked that question regardless of who started the thread. Unfortunately it happened to be you and in your typical uncivilized style have resorted to your childish slams again where everyone except you is the idiot.

When you refused to answer my question it told me everything I needed to know. It tells me you do waste your employers time and money albeit in a different style then she does. So what... it still makes you as hypocritical as the gal you're so disgusted with.

:24:

You're really too much, you know that. I've chosen not to answer your question because it is totally and completely irrelevant. If you can't understand that, then it's not my problem. You can draw whatever conclusion that you'd like to, it doesn't really bother me at all... I honestly don't give a shit what you think or have to say about me.

The issue is that I'm stating that someone is being hypocritical by holding other people to a standard that she is holding others to. I'm not judging, I'm merely stating the facts. What I do or do not do quite honestly doesn't matter, hence the reason why I'm not going to dignify your question with a response.

Oh the pettiness of those that behave like petulant little children.

Oh, and as far as me being "uncivilized"... that's not wholly true. I'm completely civilized, but I don't treat people with respect if they don't deserve it. Those that have earned my respect get treated as such. Guess which category you fall into.

 

[retro]

You are right..... She doesn't mention those people who are using the internet not business related. Somehow I missed that.

Again. Clearly I can now see where I saw the word YETin your original post that led me to believe that you were showing in the first part about her saying things about others being unprofessional..... and when I saw YET.... that to me meant However.... But..... meaning you were pointing out her being unprofessional.....

How did you mean the word YET to be seen when used in that particular spot otherwise? *shrugs*


That right there seems to be some of the issue. :nod:

Now.... Let's not shift the focus on Guyzerr when it really is all about what you said and think, and how you interpret questions directed at you. It's only natural that others will question things said.

Gotta love good communication skills when that happens.

YET is used because she is doing things that are generally accepted to be unprofessional by most people's standards. I've never said that they're by my standards or anything of the sort. So I have not directly called her unprofessional, I merely noted that she called others unprofessional by acting in a manner that some people would deem unprofessional, while she has been behaving in a manner which other people would deem unprofessional.

Pretty simple concept, right?

Oh, and it has absolutely nothing to do with me. So guyzerr is again acting like a child and attempting to attack me... again. He really must not like me if he's resorting to following me around and taking shots at me.

Very mature guyz! :clap

 

[RedRyder]

YET is used because she is doing things that are generally accepted to be unprofessional by most people's standards. I've never said that they're by my standards or anything of the sort. So I have not directly called her unprofessional, I merely noted that she called others unprofessional by acting in a manner that some people would deem unprofessional, while she has been behaving in a manner which other people would deem unprofessional.

Pretty simple concept, right?

Oh, and it has absolutely nothing to do with me. So guyzerr is again acting like a child and attempting to attack me... again. He really must not like me if he's resorting to following me around and taking shots at me.

Very mature guyz! :clap

..... but...... but....... but...... (I love the use of all this red writing for emphasis... )

You named this thread..... You posted what you posted in the first post of the thread that you named. So.... If you didn't feel this way..... WHY THE HELL DID YOU BOTHER?

 

[Guyzerr]

Oh, and it has absolutely nothing to do with me. So guyzerr is again acting like a child and attempting to attack me... again. He really must not like me if he's resorting to following me around and taking shots at me.

Very mature guyz! :clap

What part of " I would have asked anyone that started the thread the same question " don't you understand?

One thing you can take to the bank is I don't like you one little bit but I sure as hell am not following you around. This is a forum open to the public and as such anyone is allowed to post in a thread if they so desire. If the powers to be decide otherwise they will let everyone know.

In all honesty I really wish it would have been someone else that started the thread because there may have been a good chance that a reasonable discussion would have taken place.

 

[retro]

..... but...... but....... but...... (I love the use of all this red writing for emphasis... )

You named this thread..... You posted what you posted in the first post of the thread that you named. So.... If you didn't feel this way..... WHY THE HELL DID YOU BOTHER?

I bothered because I found her behavior to be hypocritical. I'm not judging what she has or hasn't done, I'm judging her hypocritical attitude.

If you can't understand that, then there's no point in continuing this further.

I'm quite flabbergasted that you would defend guyz on something though............ boggles the mind..............

 

[retro]

What part of " I would have asked anyone that started the thread the same question " don't you understand?

One thing you can take to the bank is I don't like you one little bit but I sure as hell am not following you around. This is a forum open to the public and as such anyone is allowed to post in a thread if they so desire. If the powers to be decide otherwise they will let everyone know.

In all honesty I really wish it would have been someone else that started the thread because there may have been a good chance that a reasonable discussion would have taken place.

Sure thing chief... it's merely coincidence that after you got into it with me in another thread that you immediately came into this one and continued it further. Yes guyz, we *all* believe that. :24: Man, at least try to make your stories even moderately plausible.

I will say again... I'm not answering your question because it is irrelevant

I've emphasized that word so that, perhaps, you might understand.

As far as you not liking me... meh, it's your own choice. I honestly don't have any issues with you. But on the other hand, you've held a grudge against me through many a thread. The fact that you continue to do it whilst denying it's the truth provides me with no end of amusement.

So... that all being said, do you think you could possible stop attempting to derail my thread with your red herrings and childish attempts at getting under my skin? I mean, if you're not capable of it, I guess there's nothing that you can do. But if you can, could we please just focus on the comedic intent that this thread had.

Thanks!

 

[RedRyder]

I bothered because I found her behavior to be hypocritical. I'm not judging what she has or hasn't done, I'm judging her hypocritical attitude.

If you can't understand that, then there's no point in continuing this further.

I'm quite flabbergasted that you would defend guyz on something though............ boggles the mind..............

Okay, Retro. I'll take your words at how you have interpreted them. They are after all your words. I won't continue to figure out what you may or may not have actually meant.... because there is really no way for anyone to know that anyway. Including me.

I am not defending Guyzerr. He is actually quite capable all by himself. I basically read what you and he were saying.... and because I totally thought something along the same lines as he suggested prior to his writing them..... I wanted to let you know that he was NOT alone in his thinking. That's all.

I don't expect you to change how you think and feel about this topic..... but perhaps since there is a slight doubt from others about how you portrayed it...... and answered questions owning up to it.... just maybe you might give thought to how you respond to future topics when you present them and others seem to not exactly understand you and question you.

 

[retro]

How does one "interpret" their own words? I said them as I meant them, and how I have spelled out in great detail what they meant for those that were incapable of understanding the first, second, or even third times. But I quite honestly don't care what you, guyz, or anyone else thinks about what I had to say. There are obviously quite a lot of people who took what I posted in the manner in which it was intended. I don't have a desire or need to enter into a battle of wits with Guyzerr... because he'll bring me down to his level and then beat me with his superior experience there. Take that as you will.

 

[Guyzerr]

Sure thing chief... it's merely coincidence that after you got into it with me in another thread that you immediately came into this one and continued it further. Yes guyz, we *all* believe that. :24: Man, at least try to make your stories even moderately plausible.

I suppose I could go back to " that thread " and then to my first post here if I really wanted to just to see exactly how many minutes and seconds it was but I have only have so much time to waste so I won't.

The truth is things were very slow here and when I clicked on " new posts " as I always do I saw the thread title. It caught my attention so I opened it and read the first post. The first thing that came to my mind was the very question I asked you. It was then and only then that I noticed you started the thread. My immediate reaction was " oh shit.. here we go again". I was very tempted not to ask the question and then I said to myself.. fuck it.

I will say again... I'm not answering your question because it is irrelevant

Of course it is... to you. I'm ok with your silence. It tells me everything I want to know.

I've emphasized that word so that, perhaps, you might understand.

It is precisely these types of replies where you loose even the minutest amount of respect I may have had for you. I know.. I know you really don't give a shit what I think of you. In any event you don't need to talk down to me and you certainly don't need to call me names in your underhanded fashion. You do it to not only me but others as well. If you want to have people look at you in a decent light at least act your age and not your shoe size.

As far as you not liking me... meh, it's your own choice. I honestly don't have any issues with you.

Your last rep tells me otherwise and I'm ok with that. :24: At least man up and do it in the open.
*** I hope he remembers his exact wording in his last rep because I sure as hell wouldn't want to have it posted here. Someone who shall remain nameless might get really, really mad :clap ***

could we please just focus on the comedic intent that this thread had.

I do not find this subject one bit funny. Some of the posts yes.. but not the intent of your thread.

 

[AnitaBeer]

Holy effin hell. He said the girl was being hypocritical. He never said he was being 100% perfect just that she has no room to be bitching about others being unprofessional when she is acting unprofessionally.


But don't let me stop you all from nitpicking. It's really entertaining.....