Anyone else sick of Donald Trump?

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I appreciate you taking the time for those examples, for the sake of exploration, but they do not change my opinion regarding Trump versus Obama (specifically). I will not claim that Obama is any better than your garden variety politician, meaning...all of the negative and self-promoting things politicians tend to be, but I feel your use of the term Obamacare shows your bias and I cannot agree with the Trump thing :p

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Sorry, but the use of Obamacare somehow discredits everything else? Give me a break. That sounds to me like a way out of having to admit that anything that was said was correct. Obamacare is what it's been referred to on both sides of the aisle, it's a colloquialism to describe the President's plan for health care "reform" in the United States.

I don't care for our President or his policies or views on things, but I presented unbiased facts. They're things that he has said and done either as President or on the campaign trail. Sounds like someone just doesn't want to admit that the chosen one might just be as arrogant as Donald Trump. Like I've said, they show it differently, but there is still a very strong arrogance in both of them. It's a shame that so many people are still blinded by hope and change to be able to see him for what he is.
 
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:rolleyes:

Sorry, but the use of Obamacare somehow discredits everything else? Give me a break. That sounds to me like a way out of having to admit that anything that was said was correct. Obamacare is what it's been referred to on both sides of the aisle, it's a colloquialism to describe the President's plan for health care "reform" in the United States.

I don't care for our President or his policies or views on things, but I presented unbiased facts. They're things that he has said and done either as President or on the campaign trail. Sounds like someone just doesn't want to admit that the chosen one might just be as arrogant as Donald Trump. Like I've said, they show it differently, but there is still a very strong arrogance in both of them. It's a shame that so many people are still blinded by hope and change to be able to see him for what he is.

No, your bias doesn't change the fact I flat out don't agree with your assessment.
The "and I cannot agree with the Trump thing" should be seen as "and I also cannot agree..." sorry if I typed it weird.
 

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How can a bias change facts? That's what I'm not understanding. Facts themselves are unbiased. The person providing them may be biased, as I am in this case, but what was said is truth, which by definition cannot be biased.
 

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How can a bias change facts? That's what I'm not understanding. Facts themselves are unbiased. The person providing them may be biased, as I am in this case, but what was said is truth, which by definition cannot be biased.

You are not understanding my point.
You presented examples, what you are calling fact (and I am not questioning them at all because I don't really care to and have no reason to) of what you feel is arrogance by Obama that puts him in the same category as Trump as a pompous asshole. Am I following you correctly or mistaken?

I disagree that those examples make him as pompous as Trump.
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My comment on your bias is just an observation, unrelated to the discussion of your facts and my opinion about what makes someone arrogant.
 

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Yeah but then who would have thought a community organizer with very little experience would be president several years ago

Trump has a tad of libertarian in him which might strike a cord

If Ron Paul had any such charisma he would be your president right now.

Scares the shit out of the liberal socialists calling themselves the democrat party don't it :D
 
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