Anyone else sick of Donald Trump?

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I am totally sick of Trump. The birth certificate issue? Really???? Like Hillary Clinton or John McCain wouldn't have played that for all it's worth had it had real substance? Please..............

Unless of course the crafty man w/bad hair is actually working for Obama??? hmmmmmmm...... Play up the birth certificate for all it's worth and then when Barack produces it he suddenly rides the wave of sympathy over them mean GOP'er right into a second term?:humm: Nothing surprises me these days......

In other Real news Ron Paul won another straw poll. :cool He's the only Republican I will vote for.
 
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I am totally sick of Trump. The birth certificate issue? Really???? Like Hillary Clinton or John McCain wouldn't have played that for all it's worth had it had real substance? Please..............

Unless of course the crafty man w/bad hair is actually working for Obama??? hmmmmmmm...... Play up the birth certificate for all it's worth and then when Barack produces it he suddenly rides the wave of sympathy over them mean GOP'er right into a second term?:humm: Nothing surprises me these days......

In other Real news Ron Paul won another straw poll. :cool He's the only Republican I will vote for.

What I still don't understand about the birth certificate issue is the fact that Obama campaigned on transparency, but he is refusing to be transparent about this. Then again, that seems to be par for the course for anyone that sits in the Oval Office these days.

Edit: What about Rand Paul? He's obviously most likely not going to be running for President anytime soon. But would you vote for him?
 
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Devote (efficiency of this is up for debate of course) time to issues of nation/foreign policy versus satisfy conspiracy theorist whackjob media whores to keep up the transparency portion of his platform by addressing lunacy...

I think it's kind of funny, he's sort of trolling... U mad, birthers?

In any case, I surely hope he isn't spending time on this subject and is working towards fixing the colossal damage done to the country. Just a hope.
 

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U mad, birthers?

I'm not a "birther" per se, but I don't understand why the President that promised us accountability is unwilling to put his money where his mouth is. Just show the damn document and it all ends with the people claiming he wasn't born in the United States looking like idiots.
 

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I don't understand why the President that promised us accountability is unwilling to put his money where his mouth is.

Well, he is a politician, like all those before him and assuredly all those after him.

Just show the damn document and it all ends with the people claiming he wasn't born in the United States looking like idiots.

I have to disagree with you here. Those who started this believe the document is fake, and incorrectly claims he was born in Hawaii. Showing the document would only dissuade those who are willing to have their mind changed with fact. Everyone else, and I'm sure a good deal would be left, will think it's more conspiracy.
 

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I have to disagree with you here. Those who started this believe the document is fake, and incorrectly claims he was born in Hawaii. Showing the document would only dissuade those who are willing to have their mind changed with fact. Everyone else, and I'm sure a good deal would be left, will think it's more conspiracy.

How do you figure? If the document is shown, and authenticated by the State of Hawaii... I don't see any way that a "conspiracy" could continue. It would be an open and shut case. The only reason that there is a "conspiracy" right now is because Obama is fueling it by not releasing the birth certificate. I can only think of two reasons for doing that:

1) That those that believe Obama wasn't born in the United States are indeed correct.

or

2) He's planning on using this as a political weapon for his 2012 reelection campaign.

Either one of those is completely odious to me.
 

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How do you figure? If the document is shown, and authenticated by the State of Hawaii... I don't see any way that a "conspiracy" could continue. It would be an open and shut case. The only reason that there is a "conspiracy" right now is because Obama is fueling it by not releasing the birth certificate. I can only think of two reasons for doing that:

1) That those that believe Obama wasn't born in the United States are indeed correct.

or

2) He's planning on using this as a political weapon for his 2012 reelection campaign.

Either one of those is completely odious to me.


I have always heard the document had been cleared in the election process. Certified as born in Hawaii, end of story. I'm not sure what people expect, honestly, like for him to hold a press conference and hold it up? (I'm not being a smart ass, I wonder in seriousness)

In honesty, I don't care where he was born as much as I want something done about this economy. Hard for me to focus on that in the face of this joblessness but I do live in Michigan so maybe I'm extra stressed :p
 

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I have always heard the document had been cleared in the election process. Certified as born in Hawaii, end of story. I'm not sure what people expect, honestly, like for him to hold a press conference and hold it up? (I'm not being a smart ass, I wonder in seriousness)

In honesty, I don't care where he was born as much as I want something done about this economy. Hard for me to focus on that in the face of this joblessness but I do live in Michigan so maybe I'm extra stressed :p

Well he hasn't done shit for the economy other than to allow the Federal Reserve to print more money, he spent about $850 billion on a failed stimulus plan, inflation is ramping up worse than it's been in most people's memories.

As far the birth certificate... it could simply be released to the press and then it would be over. The state of Hawaii would authenticate it, and bam. No more birthers, no more conspiracy, nothing.
 

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So the official certificate of live birth that was produced isn't good enough?

What information would be on his birth certificate that isn't on the certificate of live birth?


And I think it's funny that Trump tried to make a point by producing his "birth certificate" only to find out it was only a certificate of live birth, the same thing Obama produced. :24:
 

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So the official certificate of live birth that was produced isn't good enough?

What information would be on his birth certificate that isn't on the certificate of live birth?

I don't think there would be anything different on it to be honest with you. I'm just saying that he should do it just to shut everyone up and put the issue to rest.

And I think it's funny that Trump tried to make a point by producing his "birth certificate" only to find out it was only a certificate of live birth, the same thing Obama produced. :24:

That was indeed rather amusing.
 

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I don't have my original birth certificate anymore. I only have a copy

So I guess I'd be fucked if I ever ran for president.... oh, never mind, I'm white :D
 

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Oh all the important issues the president is facing, Trump raising the issue Obama's not American is soooo lame. I don't like Trump, I don't like Palin and I hope to heck we don't get another Bush! We've got serious problems and an egotistical publicity hound is not the answer.
 

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I never really cared for Donald Duck to be quite honest.

(Who the hell can even understand what he saying half of the time?)

(...same goes for Donald Trump I guess...)
 
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