ADHD and ADD

[debbie t]

dont even get me started on american fast food and the shitty additives in itwhich affect childrens behaviour...well be her till next year

 

[Ria]

Well it works for me.

You said you don't have ADD/ though.


Not very nice of you really when you don't know if I know anything about it.

I could only go by your posts and that was how you came across, as not knowing much of it, that was all.

I know what the symptoms are. I know what she's like. She doesn't act like she has ADD.

Oh, before in yr post, you said ADHD, here you say ADD :confused


I'm against society pushing parents to medicate their children. I'm also against parents who blindly follow societies instructions because they can't be half-assed educating themselves on the matter further. Not that I think you are one of those, as I don't know you from a bar of soap.

To be honest, society didn't push me to medicate my son, I didn't blindly or otherwise go the meds route either. I have researched and watched programmes on this and many other things, to educate myself further, for the last 20 or so years, to clarify.

And a lot of meds approved by the FDA have been known to have worse side-effects than the condition they're intended to cure or relieve.

Which is why I researched and keep a very close watch too.

Disrespecting kids through ignorance? LOL
I wouldn't quite call not believing ADD/ADHD, disrespectful. The only reason I believe this way is because I have looked into this and found nothing to support it. And the only reason I looked into it is because I care about children.

So next time you attempt to insult or belittle someone because you both differ in opinion, stop and think about whether you really know what's what. Things aren't always what they seem.

No, you I do not know, but I didn't belittle you at all infact, despite your hostility here. Had you looked into ADHD/ADD, you would have read plenty to support what they are and what happens etc, I did.

I know what's what with many things and may I suggest it is you who could do with maybe taking a step back - I didn't insult you, but you left it open for comments re your seemingly uncaring post above and you did come across to me, imo, as uncaring re children. I cannot help it if that's how it came across.


Do you have anything to back up that claim? Or was this just an attempt at belittling men this time?

I have nothing against men at all, I get on with most. I substantiate that comment of mine because it is fact. I have been involved with helping ppl in my line of work who, many have been left by husbands with children with needs - I don't just randomly say things, I go on the fact that I do know and have seen it many many times.

It's a shame your closed mind makes conclusions this quickly.

It was indeed your closed mind, not mine, so please don't turn your regret onto me.

I'm assuming this is yet another attempt at belittling.

No, it is again a fact.

And now for something different!!! Oh. No. It's just more belittling.

Wow. All this anger and hostility over a single opposing comment? Wait! Let me guess! You're Christian right?

It was just me making a comment that in debates, discussion is key for knowledge from all, to be passed on. It's not meant at you - I meant you = ppl (it's how we say things here, that's all, nothing else).

I had absolutely no anger at all, just typing out my comments that's all and I have not been hostile, I was trying to just pass on my knowledge to try and help you understand as it came across that you didn't, as already said ^^^^^^

Christian? I do not even follow religion - I follow my knowledge, life experiences, proof of what's what in life and the education I had and so on......

I hope your day improves for you because it is reading as though you were clearly wound up before you even got here today.

I am calm and friendly, not out to get you......

 

[Pudding Time]

It was just me making a comment that in debates, discussion is key for knowledge from all, to be passed on. It's not meant at you - I meant you = ppl (it's how we say things here, that's all, nothing else).

I had absolutely no anger at all, just typing out my comments that's all and I have not been hostile, I was trying to just pass on my knowledge to try and help you understand as it came across that you didn't, as already said ^^^^^^

Christian? I do not even follow religion - I follow my knowledge, life experiences, proof of what's what in life and the education I had and so on......

I hope your day improves for you because it is reading as though you were clearly wound up before you even got here today.

I am calm and friendly, not out to get you......

Why do you make such assumptions of me? Again you go on to comment that I know nothing about this, yet you have no idea what I know from one post. All I stated was that I don't believe ADD/ADHD is real. You can go on and on about how it is real, and that I know nothing because I think it's fake. But in the end, I'm not going to change my opinion because you tell me to.

So FYI. I'm not wound up. I do know what I'm talking about. And like I said, things aren't always as they seem. So don't jump to conclusions so quickly.

 

[COOL_BREEZE2]

Thank you Freeby. I was just about to pick apart his so called multi-quote rambling in likewise manner but I see you beat me to it. Kudos.

And this ignorant comment of his:

"Wait! Let me guess! You're Christian right?"

Where the hell did this come from? Just so?
That's just downright ignorant religious bashing of the highest order. SMH

 

[COOL_BREEZE2]

Why do you make such assumptions of me? Again you go on to comment that I know nothing about this, yet you have no idea what I know from one post. All I stated was that I don't believe ADD/ADHD is real. You can go on and on about how it is real, and that I know nothing because I think it's fake. But in the end, I'm not going to change my opinion because you tell me to.

So FYI. I'm not wound up. I do know what I'm talking about. And like I said, things aren't always as they seem. So don't jump to conclusions so quickly.

In turn, why do you make such assumptions of others and why do you jump to conclusions so quickly?

Indeed you did come across as being wound up and your post/s in question reeks of ignorance.

 

[Pudding Time]

Thank you Freeby. I was just about to pick apart his so called multi-quote rambling in likewise manner but I see you beat me to it. Kudos.

And this ignorant comment of his:

"Wait! Let me guess! You're Christian right?"

Where the hell did this come from? Just so?
That's just downright ignorant religious bashing of the highest order. SMH

Calling my posts "ramblings" is no more insulting. And hey, I was fine until little miss freespeech decided to turn hostile on me. You don't like it? Well neither do I. So if y'all cut the BS, so will I.

 

[Ria]

Thank you Freeby. I was just about to pick apart his so called multi-quote rambling in likewise manner but I see you beat me to it. Kudos.

And this ignorant comment of his:

"Wait! Let me guess! You're Christian right?"

Where the hell did this come from? Just so?
That's just downright ignorant religious bashing of the highest order. SMH

Hi CB

Thanks hun.

I got here after doing my hair and was amazed at the response, particularly as I had posted since then and it hadn't been read.

He is here now looking too, but hopefully he has calmed down now.

I don't think I have been unfriendly - I think I have been very patient to be honest. Oh well......

It took a while to get through them too - especially with a couple of contradictions and things that have been totally mis-read, but hey ho......

Yes, the comment, re the Christian thing, hummmmm - that was beyond me too. :confused :confused

 

[Peter Parka]

Hmmm...I was always under the impression that ADD and ADHD was a fact recognised by doctors who have studied and researched this for years. Guess Pudding Time knows better though!:smiley24:

 

[NightWarrior]

In turn, why do you make such assumptions of others and why do you jump to conclusions so quickly?

Indeed you did come across as being wound up and your post/s in question reeks of ignorance.

Lets try to keep this on topic and not belittle each other. It is evident that he and freespeech disagree on the subject. He is entitled to his opinion and so are you a freebie. Neither one of you is going to convince the other that one of you is right or wrong, apparently.

Pudding Time: I ask that you don't bring religion into discussions that have nothing to do with religion. Attacking someone's religion is not cool and not tolerated here.

This is me speaking as a mod folks. I will be monitoring this thread closely.

 

[Pudding Time]

In turn, why do you make such assumptions of others and why do you jump to conclusions so quickly?

Indeed you did come across as being wound up and your post/s in question reeks of ignorance.

Reeks of ignorance? Why? Because you don't agree? Because you dislike what I posted? Please, if you have information on why it's an ignorant post, tell me now.

 

[NightWarrior]

Hmmm...I was always under the impression that ADD and ADHD was a fact recognised by doctors who have studied and researched this for years. Guess Pudding Time knows better though!:smiley24:

You are correct Peter. There are also doctors that do not believe in it as well. I believe the majority is in the belief category though. What they all do agree upon though is that the manner in which they test for these should be questioned. From what I researched, it takes a brain scan, among other tests, to fully understand the disorder.

 

[Ria]

Calling my posts "ramblings" is no more insulting. And hey, I was fine until little miss freespeech decided to turn hostile on me. You don't like it? Well neither do I. So if y'all cut the BS, so will I.

Ok, as I have already said above - I have not felt hostile, been hostile, or even been angry.

Please compare the way you respond, to the way I respond.

I keep my dignity and am still courteous. I have posted a few times now - please read the posts, because I don't see anywhere where I have been hostile, just responded in a mature manner, as is such for debates and in life in general.

I am sorry you feel that way.

 

[Pudding Time]

Lets try to keep this on topic and not belittle each other. It is evident that he and freespeech disagree on the subject. He is entitled to his opinion and so are you a freebie. Neither one of you is going to convince the other that one of you is right or wrong, apparently.

Pudding Time: I ask that you don't bring religion into discussions that have nothing to do with religion. Attacking someone's religion is not cool and not tolerated here.

This is me speaking as a mod folks. I will be monitoring this thread closely.

Sorry about the dig at Christians. I just get a little pissed when someone full out attacks me personally because they have a different opinion. I should have keep that last dig a little more relative.

 

[Pudding Time]

Hmmm...I was always under the impression that ADD and ADHD was a fact recognised by doctors who have studied and researched this for years. Guess Pudding Time knows better though!:smiley24:

Some doctors have done that. And some doctors believe it's not a fact. Therefor I went out an educated myself on this, and from what I read, I do not believe in ADD/ADHD.

And just so we are clear. I'm not preach that you should believe me because I educated myself. I will however preach that you should do the same as me, and educate yourself on it no matter what conclusion you come up with.

 

[NightWarrior]

Sorry about the dig at Christians. I just get a little pissed when someone full out attacks me personally because they have a different opinion. I should have keep that last dig a little more relative.

Attacking someone's religious beliefs isn't a way to get back at someone. If this happens again, I will have to infract you, which could cause a temporary/permanent ban.

We can have a heated debate, but please do not attack each other. Just because someone believes something outside of mainstream does not mean they are ignorant. And being a Christian or not has no bearing on intelligence.

 

[Ria]

That last post I just posted, was done before I saw your one above - hadn't noticed.

 

[Pudding Time]

Attacking someone's religious beliefs isn't a way to get back at someone. If this happens again, I will have to infract you, which could cause a temporary/permanent ban.

We can have a heated debate, but please do not attach each other. Just because someone believes something outside of mainstream does not mean they are ignorant. And being a Christian or not has no bearing on intelligence.

It wasn't bearing on her intelligence, but rather her actions.

 

[NightWarrior]

It wasn't bearing on her intelligence, but rather her actions.

Either way, I don't like it. Don't let it happen again.

 

[Peter Parka]

And just so we are clear. I'm not preach that you should believe me because I educated myself. I will however preach that you should do the same as me, and educate yourself on it no matter what conclusion you come up with.

I'm quite well educated on it thank you very much, not sure why you come to the conclusion I'm not, but thank you for your concern.

 

[Pudding Time]

I'm quite well educated on it thank you very much, not sure why you come to the conclusion I'm not, but thank you for your concern.

wtf?
Where in gods name did you get the idea that I thought you were ignorant on this matter?

OK, hold on. I forget the language barrier here. When I say "you" sometimes I mean everyone, and not just you personally.