Abortion. Right or wrong?

[Specialized]

Before I post up my own views, I'd at least like to hear about what a few of you around here think. Having many females on the forum, it'd be interesting to hear their thoughts.

So, lets debate. Abortion, right or wrong?

 

[SilentEyz]

My thoughts, It's not Right or Wrong.. I know pick a side, But I can't because for each individual who is faced with the decision, It is only Thiers to decide.

Right or wrong, they are the ones who have to make the choice, and have to live with it.

And sometimes, The right or wrong answer depends on the circumstances.

 

[Butterfly]

I am pro-life, in all circumstances.

 

[elluko]

Im totally against it.

 

[Specialized]

In order for a fetus to live it must be completely connected to the mother's body. It has to be a part of her or it will die. Any genetic deviances from the mother can cause the fetus to die and thus it has to be part of her in order to live. Due to this reliance on being a part of the mother it can be seen that it is a part of her body. A fetus is the property of the mother. This means she gets to decide whether it becomes a human being with rights that is protected by law. The rights of a woman over her body cannot be argued and as the fetus must be a part of her body in order to live its fate falls under her personal rights until a time in which it becomes its own entity that does not require a connection with the mother.

 

[Peter Parka]

A baby is a human being at whatever stage of the pregnancy. As such, having an abortion is murder. The only time I see it as an ok decision is when it's a straight choise between who lives, the child or the mother.

 

[Kat]

hmm...I can only answer this for what my choice would be...I could never have an abortion...I once told an ex that even if they told me if I had the (imaginary) baby I would die...I would still have it. And thats the truth...I could never have an abortion...could never kill my baby without it ever having a chance at life

 

[Darkstar]

neither could I.... Human life is too precious. But thats just my opinion.

I knew a woman who had a late term abortion because her child had stunted growth. This child was weeks from birth. Thats murder.

 

[andcuriouser]

In general, I'm going to have to agree with Silent.

I'm pro-choice. Ideally, I'd hope there would be no abortions at all, but I also understand that in some circumstances, it could be the better choice.

 

[Reaver]

PRO -CHOICE. If a woman doesn't want to have an abortion, that's fine. But I think everyone should have the right to make their own choice based on their own beliefs. Not everyone agrees with you, get over it. If abortion was made totally legal, there would still be just as many people NOT getting abortions as there are now... People aren't gonna suddenly say "HEY I WANT ONE CAUSE ITS LEGAL!!1!!1lol" People underage would still need parental consent. And whether you believe it or not, if abortion was totally illegal, people would still find ways to have abortions. Sorry to say it but you just gotta look at the facts.

On a side note: How many times has this thread already been created?

 

[Specialized]

More times than not probably.

 

[Peter Parka]

PRO -CHOICE. If a woman doesn't want to have an abortion, that's fine. But I think everyone should have the right to make their own choice based on their own beliefs. Not everyone agrees with you, get over it. If abortion was made totally legal, there would still be just as many people NOT getting abortions as there are now... People aren't gonna suddenly say "HEY I WANT ONE CAUSE ITS LEGAL!!1!!1lol" People underage would still need parental consent. And whether you believe it or not, if abortion was totally illegal, people would still find ways to have abortions. Sorry to say it but you just gotta look at the facts.

On a side note: How many times has this thread already been created?

No offense mate, but by your logic we should also legalise murder because it's still going on when it's illigal!:confused

 

[alleycat]

A baby is a human being at whatever stage of the pregnancy. As such, having an abortion is murder. The only time I see it as an ok decision is when it's a straight choise between who lives, the child or the mother.

so you are telling me that the morning after pill is abortion?
and actually birth control would be abortion as most birth control pills thing the uterine wall so that a fertilized egg cannot attach itself to the wall. therefore it is a fertilized egg that will be passed thru.
:withstupid:

 

[Peter Parka]

Well yes, thats what I believe. Maybe there would be no need for the morning after pill if the person had taken care to use a condom in the first place.

 

[Butterfly]

so you are telling me that the morning after pill is abortion?
and actually birth control would be abortion as most birth control pills thing the uterine wall so that a fertilized egg cannot attach itself to the wall. therefore it is a fertilized egg that will be passed thru.
:withstupid:

Personal opinion... Yes!
There is a reason I don't do hormonal birth control (it is against my moral belief) and there is a reason I wouldn't consider IVF for infertility treatment... the embryos that are unused/not needed, are destroyed... ie. as good as abortion.

 

[Butterfly]

Well yes, thats what I believe. Maybe there would be no need for the morning after pill if the person had taken care to use a condom in the first place.

Amen to that!

 

[Maulds]

I'm Pro-Life generally, but I think Silent and Leland made good points.

Also keep in mind no birth control is perfect, condoms especially.

This topic will never be settled and people will always argue over when a baby becomes a person and if and when a soul is present. I see truths on both sides, but I don't think it should be made illegal even though the very idea disgusts me.

 

[andcuriouser]

So anti-abortionists are against the pill as well?

Condoms are absolutely not one hundred percent effective, so most women take some form of the pill (as in, combined oral contraceptive pill).

The pill prevents pregnancies in a few ways, the most obvious being that it prevents ovulation. But if there is fertilization, it also prevents the fertilized egg from attaching to the uterus. Also, if it did manage to attach, it is prevented from being able to sustain itself, and it is flushed (without notice) from the body.

So the pill may or may not kill a fertilized egg. It could prevent ovulation all together, or it could just flush the whole thing without notice.

The whole abortion debate, I think, stems from one thing: when is the child alive as its own person? Some people argue fertilization, some argue up to so many months, some argue not until the child is born.

I think it's just so circumstantial to each woman and her situation.

 

[trope]

I really need to log on more.

It's sort of hard to describe how I feel about abortion. I'm very against it in a lot of ways. For instance, when my ex-wife aborted our child, I went ballistic. That was also a very personal instance, not exactly how I feel about it in general.

But from a theoretical standpoint, I am pro-life. I believe that a body does not become human until it takes its first breath after birth because that is when the soul enters the body. Stillborn babies are not given Jewish burials, for instance, because they are soulless. So abortion cannot be murder, because an unborn baby is not human. (Keep in mind these are my views, not proven fact, please!)

I believe that abortion is necessary when it comes to the mother's life. The life of a mother, especially if she has a family and other children, is more important than that of an unborn child.

Don't get me wrong, life is precious. I wish abortions never had an oppurtunity to happen. It's hard to explain.

I'm very, very against unnecessary abortions. How's that?

 

[SilentEyz]

I know myelf, I could not have an abortion, But I would not want a law that sais others cannot make that choice,

Been there, done that, and it cost lives rather then solutions.

I dont think agree that abortion should be used as a form of birth control, I think there should be true reasons for having an abortion, I also believe that if both parties are involved then they should both have a say,

But there are many instances where I believe abortion is and will be the better option.