51 year old Green Mile/Lost actor marries 16 year old

[Peter Parka]

so let me see if I have your thoughts correctly, since some of us don't live where you do our laws and values are crap .

What are you talking about? I live in a counry where you can join the army at 16 but you cant get married then without your parents permission. Stop being so sensitive.

 

[Zorak]

so let me see if I have your thoughts correctly, since some of us don't live where you do our laws and values are crap .

Not directed at me I'm aware, but I was mentioned in the original context. I can't speak for Pete, but that's not what I was getting at all.
There is no direct correlation between all the different age laws, sometimes they can seem rather banal and dated. It's a matter that transcends nationality.

 

[Aries]

Not correct. You can enlist at 17 if you are a high school graduate and have your parent's consent.

Actually you can join the US army at 17 with parental permission.

Yes, I was going to go back and edit, but my damn internet is lagging.

 

[Niamh]

Personally, I don't give a crap what the law says at all, from experience of being a 16 year old and being around 16 year olds is where my opinion on 16 being too young to marry comes from.

 

[griz bear]

What are you talking about? I live in a counry where you can join the army at 16 but you cant get married then without your parents permission. Stop being so sensitive.

You are muddying the topics, what does military service have to do with marriage ?

 

[Tangerine]

I find it interesting how adamant some people are about being"too young" to be married etc. when you consider the fact that it was quite common practice to marry and have babies at 13,14,15 probably no more than 100 years ago.

We tend to forget that our societal "norms" that we all hold so dear are relatively new things. The world has been around a long time. Things haven't always been played by the currently rules.

 

[Tuffdisc]

It was obviously a jokey comment

And I do believe that a 51 year old man marrying a 16 year old girl is going to hurt her. 16 is too young to get married, if she was marrying someone her own age it would also be bad but the person she's marrying wouldn't know any better, a 51 year old man should. I would oppose anyone trying to take advantage of my child like that. You can argue with me all you want but at the end of the day I'd be willing to bet my life you're attitude would change if you had a daughter and she ended up in that situation.

Why have you got this stuck in your head that at 16 being too young to marry? It is legal, hundreds of years ago, it used to be 12

 

[Peter Parka]

You are muddying the topics, what does military service have to do with marriage ?

I'm sorry, how do I make this any simpler than I already have? Both are responsibilities. With being in the army though people's lives are at risk. Therefore it makes no sense to say that getting married is a bigger responsibility than joining the army through the laws you have on the age limit for both. If someone is allowed to fight and die for their country they damn well are responsible enough to get married.

Understand now?

 

[Niamh]

Why have you got this stuck in your head that at 16 being too young to marry? It is legal, hundreds of years ago, it used to be 12

actually, it's not legal without parents consent. And I think it's too young to marry because :

A - I used to be a 16 year old

B - I know plenty of 16 year olds and they certainly aren't mature enough to be married

B - Most 16 year olds won't even be finished school

 

[griz bear]

I find it interesting how adamant some people are about being"too young" to be married etc. when you consider the fact that it was quite common practice to marry and have babies at 13,14,15 probably no more than 100 years ago.

We tend to forget that our societal "norms" that we all hold so dear are relatively new things. The world has been around a long time. Things haven't always been played by the currently rules.

yeah , things were differant 100 years ago. But you can't go back. Just because it was OK to beat you wife a 100 years ago , doesn't make it correct today. Laws were inacted to protect people.

 

[Tim]

Obviously we see this subject differently. When Anna Nicole Smith married the old dude, he certainly could take care of her financially but not sure whether there was any love involved. I can't help it I look at this couple and I see a some day porn star and a letcherous old dude.

How is that anyway to talk about a 16 year old girl that you don't know the first thing about?
You talk about not letting your kids do this and how she isn't old enough to marry this guy but don't have any problems looking at her appearance and seeing a future porn star... nice

 

[Peter Parka]

I never knew that all teenagers are exactly the same and all mature at exactly the same rate. Lol!

 

[Panacea]

I find it interesting how adamant some people are about being"too young" to be married etc. when you consider the fact that it was quite common practice to marry and have babies at 13,14,15 probably no more than 100 years ago.

We tend to forget that our societal "norms" that we all hold so dear are relatively new things. The world has been around a long time. Things haven't always been played by the currently rules.

I don't think that is lost on many in this thread, they all seem reasonably intelligent...in any case, societies change rapidly....I'd guess, unless the global economy takes a big upswing, soon enough it will begin to seem strange if someone under 25 marries.

 

[griz bear]

I'm sorry, how do I make this any simpler than I already have? Both are responsibilities. With being in the army though people's lives are at risk. Therefore it makes no sense to say that getting married is a bigger responsibility than joining the army through the laws you have on the age limit for both. If someone is allowed to fight and die for their country they damn well are responsible enough to get married.

Understand now?

You can join the army, 3 to 4 years you get out and continue with your life. Marriage is a lifetime commitment. Does someone have the mental maturity to make such a desision at such a young age ?

 

[Zorak]

You can join the army, 3 to 4 years you get out and continue with your life. Marriage is a lifetime commitment. Does someone have the mental maturity to make such a desision at such a young age ?

That's a pretty vacuous statement... It's too simple to pick the holes in that one.

 

[Tuffdisc]

actually, it's not legal without parents consent. And I think it's too young to marry because :

A - I used to be a 16 year old

B - I know plenty of 16 year olds and they certainly aren't mature enough to be married

B - Most 16 year olds won't even be finished school

I know it isn't legal without parental permission, but I don't think any parents (evidently apart from you, no offence) wouldn't allow that to happen, because that 16 year old has the legal right to run away if they wanted too, and not come back to their house, so I think that would really be futile, unless they can prove their child welfare is in danger, in which case you would have to prove, rather than call people "creepy" because of the age gap. If he dies all of a sudden, she would probably inherit his fortune

 

[Peter Parka]

You can join the army, 3 to 4 years you get out and continue with your life. Marriage is a lifetime commitment. Does someone have the mental maturity to make such a desision at such a young age ?

Depends who they are. It's naive to make sweeping statements about a whole group of people who are all different and you dont know the first thing about the majority of them.

 

[Tangerine]

yeah , things were differant 100 years ago. But you can't go back. Just because it was OK to beat you wife a 100 years ago , doesn't make it correct today. Laws were inacted to protect people.

And just because there's a law today doesn't mean that it was the right choice. A lot of our laws are based on stupid and controlling religious doctrine, and in no way are based in what's actually "good" for the people involved.

 

[Niamh]

I know it isn't legal without parental permission, but I don't think any parents (evidently apart from you, no offence) wouldn't allow that to happen, because that 16 year old has the legal right to run away if they wanted too, and not come back to their house, so I think that would really be futile, unless they can prove their child welfare is in danger, in which case you would have to prove, rather than call people "creepy" because of the age gap. If he dies all of a sudden, she would probably inherit his fortune

First of all, I sincerely doubt I am the only parent who wouldn't give consent to my 16 year old marrying anyone not to mind a 51 year old, infact I'd go so far as to say that most parents wouldn't. Secondly, I don't believe I mentioned the word creepy once in this thread, I don't know why you keep mentioning it like I did?

 

[Tuffdisc]

You can join the army, 3 to 4 years you get out and continue with your life. Marriage is a lifetime commitment. Does someone have the mental maturity to make such a desision at such a young age ?

How can you say to anyone that they are not mature enough too marry? We can't judge people as not being mature enough, there are adults who have created wars, do you think they are immature in some way?