1/3rd of Women in US Military Raped

[kelvin070]

wow, this is disturbing aswell.....



http://aaron-ng.info/blog/singapores-law-encourages-men-to-rape-their-wives.html

:eek

SO...." 10/10 of SIngaporean woman are raped by their husbands at some stage in their marriage":willy_nilly:

Thats even MORE appalling.:nod:

I almost thought for a minute we were going to have another discussion about kelvin/rape--but I'm not touching that with a ten foot pole.

I don't read stupid articles from some stupid blogs. My sources are all from reputable publishers like Time, Newsweek, USA Today, Washington Post, CNN, WSJ etc and some good blogs. I had to agree with Justmee so that I can help to stabilize his blood pressure.

 

[Francis]

It seems the 30% stat comes from this article...

IngentaConnect Prevalence of In-Service and Post-Service Sexual Assault among Co...

which I'm not about to pay $20 for but anybody is welcome to if they wish. Looking at just the abstract though it appears to be yet another case of "they'll never read the source material so I'll just say WTF ever I want."



They only looked at vets seeking treatment for PTSD. Since rape and sexual assault are known triggers for PTSD, there's a built in selection bias for rape and sexual assault when you only look at people suffering from PTSD.

30% of the women seeking treatment for PTSD having been raped does not equate to 30% of the entire female population of the military being raped.

Just that cursory look makes me think Helen Benedict has an axe to grind somewhere....

I saw that and wondered the same..

But then I wondered if that was the basis for the approximation for those who do not report the abuse ( sexual ) to get a number.

So I Googled "Women in US Military Raped" out of curiosity and it came up with many more links then I expected.

This one caught my attention and was worth reading..

U.S. Military Violence Against Women

I guess we will never know the real number any military unit has, but I can't condone it even if it was one..

 

[sierrabravo]

it's true. and it's not just women getting raped in the military... :ninja

 

[kelvin070]

This is a related story.
Back from combat, women struggle for acceptance

Aimee Sherrod, an Air Force veteran who did three war tours, said years went by when she didn’t tell people she was a veteran. After facing sexual harassment during two tours and mortar attacks in Iraq, the 29-year-old mother of two from Bells, Tenn., was medically discharged in 2005 with post-traumatic stress disorder.
She’s haunted by nightmares and wakes up some nights thinking she’s under attack. She’s moody as a result of PTSD and can’t function enough to work or attend college. Like some other veterans, she felt she improperly received a low disability rating by the Department of Veterans Affairs that left her with a token monthly payment. She was frustrated that her paperwork mentioned she was pregnant, a factor she thought was irrelevant.

Back from combat, women struggle for acceptance - Army News, news from Iraq, - Army Times

 

[Accountable]

Each country is different and will always be different. What works well for you may not work for us and vice versa.

 

[kelvin070]

LMAO, we are talking abt rape and sexual harrassment here. So each country is different and if it happens in US it wont happen in Singapore. Looks like my quote is a "one size fits all" quote

 

[Accountable]

Well, it won't be permitted legally in the US. I guess that's the real difference. But to each his own, right?

hypocrite.

 

[kelvin070]

Well, it won't be permitted legally in the US. I guess that's the real difference. But to each his own, right?

hypocrite.

Lol, I was just merely contributing an article.

 

[justmee]

I had to agree with Justmee so that I can help to stabilize his blood pressure.

so basicly your saying its ok to rape your wife?



and my blood pressure is just fine. was just checked a few days ago when i went in for a check up

 

[SYN]

not really surprised to be honest, the percent of individuals getting raped is increasing every year since 1980 (canada)

 

[sierrabravo]

I don't care what country you are from, if a woman says NO and you keep going, you should die. die die die! Fiery die!

 

[USF Sam]

I spent several years in the military and my ex-wife was in my unit. So, I saw first-hand what a female in the Army has to put up with.

Based on that, I've told every woman I've ever met that was considering joining the military that I'd break her leg before she went to Basic Training.

 

[GuesSAngel]

so basicly your saying its ok to rape your wife?



and my blood pressure is just fine. was just checked a few days ago when i went in for a check up

it looks like the post that he was agreeing with was you said it was horrible..and he agreed. I don't think he said i disagree..

 

[kelvin070]

so basicly your saying its ok to rape your wife?



and my blood pressure is just fine. was just checked a few days ago when i went in for a check up

I can't immagine a wife accusing hubby of rape when both are living under one roof and gets along well.

Psychological damage
Because of popular stereotypes of "real" rape, it is often assumed[who?] that because spouses have been sexually intimate, rape in marriage is not as traumatic as when committed by a stranger.[citation needed]
While rape by a stranger is highly traumatic, it is typically a one-time event and is clearly understood as rape. In the case of rape by a spouse or long term sexual partner, the history of the relationship affects the victim’s reactions. Marital rape is likely to be part of an abusive relationship. Trauma from the rape adds to the effect of other abusive acts or abusive and demeaning talk. Furthermore, marital rape is rarely a one-time event, but a repeated if not frequent occurrence.[
Legal aspect
Historically, many cultures have had a concept of spouses' conjugal rights [2] to sexual intercourse with each other. The proposition of Christian teaching's influence in Western culture need be considered, in particular, St. Paul's teaching, "Let the husband render to his wife the affection due her, and likewise also the wife to her husband. The wife does not have authority over her own body, but the husband does. And likewise the husband does not have authority over his own body, but the wife does. Do not deprive one another except with consent for a time, that you may give yourselves to fasting and prayer; and come together again so that Satan does not tempt you because of your lack of self-control." (1 Corinthians 7:3-5, NKJV). This can be seen in Common law, in force in North America and the British Commonwealth, where the very concept of marital rape was treated as an impossibility. This was illustrated most vividly by Sir Matthew Hale, in his 1736 classic legal treatise, Historia Placitorum Coronae, History of the Pleas of the Crown, where he wrote that such a rape could not be recognized since the wife "…hath given up herself in this kind unto her husband, which she cannot retract."
As the concept of human rights has developed, the belief of a marital right to sexual intercourse has become less widely held. In 1965, Sweden altered its statutes so that husbands could be charged for raping their wives.[3] In December 1993, the United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights published the Declaration on the Elimination of Violence Against Women[4]. This establishes marital rape as a human rights violation. This is not fully recognized by all UN member States. In 1997, UNICEF reported that just 17 States criminalized marital rape.[4] In 2003, UNIFEM reported that more than 50 States did so.[5] In 2006, the UN Secretary General found "Marital rape may be prosecuted in at least 104 States. Of these, 32 have made marital rape a specific criminal offence, while the remaining 74 [sic] do not exempt marital rape from general rape provisions. Four States criminalize marital rape only when the spouses are judicially separated."[5]
Many United States rape statutes used to preclude spousal prosecution, including estranged or even legally separated couples. In 1975, South Dakota removed this exception.[6] In 1993, North Carolina became the last state to remove the spousal exemption.[citation needed] However, as of 1999, 33 of 50 U.S. states regard spousal rape as a lesser crime [Bergen, 1999]. The perpetrator may be charged with related crimes such as assault, battery, or spousal abuse. There are other criminal charges that may be inapplicable to married couples. For example, in the U.S., there is a marriage exemption to the charge of statutory rape even if one of the spouses is under the age of consent in the jurisdiction where the sexual act takes place.
Spousal rape - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[justmee]

I can't immagine a wife accusing hubby of rape when both are living under one roof and gets along well.

i cant imagine a man not taking no for an answer. just because two people live under one roof and get along dont mean that her own body because his property do do with as he pleases. if she says "no" and he forces it upon her anyway its still rape, wife or not

 

[kelvin070]

i cant imagine a man not taking no for an answer. just because two people live under one roof and get along dont mean that her own body because his property do do with as he pleases. if she says "no" and he forces it upon her anyway its still rape, wife or not

Marital or spousal rape is rape committed by one spouse against the other. This type of rape has historically been controversial because of the assumption that marriage takes away either spouse’s right to refuse to have sex.
As you read the following paragraphs, you may think to yourself, “Where did this information come from? What’s the source?” There are so many sources on this subject that I’ve chosen to list a number of them at the end of this post rather than insert them within the text.
The “ownership” view that rape couldn’t exist within marriage was upheld in British and American common law for a long time, based on legal opinions such as this: “But the husband cannot be guilty of a rape committed by himself upon his lawful wife, for by their mutual matrimonial consent and contract the wife hath given up herself in this kind unto her husband which she cannot retract” (Sir Matthew Hale’s History of the Pleas of the Crown, 1736).
Additionally, even atheists will point to the Bible as an example of “common sense”: “The wife’s body does not belong to her alone but also to her husband. In the same way, the husband’s body does not belong to him alone but also to his wife. Do not deprive each other except by mutual consent and for a time, so that you may devote yourselves to prayer. Then come together again so that Satan will not tempt you because of your lack of self-control” (1 Corinthians 7:4-5, NIV).

Marital Rape « For the Record

 

[dt3]

Marital Rape « For the Record

The latest example you quoted was from 1736. Times change, opinions on subjects change. Just because it was ok in 1736 culture doesn't mean it's ok now. Or do you like slavery too?

 

[kelvin070]

The latest example you quoted was from 1736. Times change, opinions on subjects change. Just because it was ok in 1736 culture doesn't mean it's ok now. Or do you like slavery too?

This is a contoversial and subjective topic. Has religious implications too.

 

[HottyToddyChick]

This is a contoversial and subjective topic. Has religious implications too.

How is it subjective? religious?

Would you like if I came up to you and asked to put something in your body and when you refused, I shoved it in anyhow? I don't think so.

 

[dt3]

This is a contoversial and subjective topic. Has religious implications too.

You didn't answer my question, yet again. How is something being legal in 1736 proof that it should be legal today?