The Official Gun Lovers Thread

[dt3]

Going with the .223 do you want a DI or piston system of operation?

If the .223 doesn't fit your fancy you could always go with a AR platform based on 6.5 or 6.8

For myself, If I'm going to be throwing a good amount of bullets downrange, I prefer to get a caliber that is relatively cheap to buy by the 1,000 round case.

What is your definition of a "good" semi auto .308? People tend to forget that you have cons with semi autos (hot barrels don't help accuracy most of the times), and IMO those cons tend to increase going with a larger bore gun unless you don't mind spending the money. That's not even taking the mags into consideration. PTR brand and FAL types are another option in that caliber.

Only personal opinion, with a .308, you have some distance to shoot, no problem. However, I've just found that I'd rather load for a .300 Win Mag and take my time shooting longer distances than loading for a .308 and loading up 20 round mags because the ammo goes quicker, at least with me, I've also found, again, only me, that if I take a larger caliber gun out to shoot, if I'm not shooting at least 200 yards minumum, just seems like a waste. Then, if you aren't shooting some quality type ammo, you can be all over the place when you start to push the distance.

If you want a Ruger, cruise the classifieds on the gun boards. Here in NC there was a Ruger 556 that a guy wanted to unload (LNIB) for $1,000 shipped, and it was the newer model, not the "E" (seems in the short time Ruger has had this model out there, they have had multiple models). My understanding is their first model had some issues with cleaning, but Ruger never interested me in a black rifle, so I never really looked into it.

Just remember, a $400 rifle can shoot just as good as a $1,400 one. Comes down to what you want to make work, and practice, practice and more practice never hurts LOL Then again, you can spend money and go in circles. Been there, done that LOL

Like most people probably, I'm much more familiar with DI. But I'm intrigued by piston; it seems harder to clean, but you don't need to as often, either. By good, I just mean that if I'm shooting like shit, I want to know that it's my fault and not the rifle. I won't have too many opportunities for long distance shooting, probably only once or twice a year, the range nearby only goes out to 50 yards, but that's great for working on fundamentals (since I haven't shot a rifle since 05, I probably need some work to get back to where I was then).

 

[Darrell]

Headed to the range in a few hours to put a few more through the M&P, and break in my buddies new 9mm KAHR.

 

[All Else Failed]

I'm not a huge .223 fan, but there doesn't seem to be many good semi-auto .308s.

FALs, M14s, Saiga

 

[Joe the meek]

Like most people probably, I'm much more familiar with DI. But I'm intrigued by piston; it seems harder to clean, but you don't need to as often, either.

For myself, piston is just as easy to clean as DI, if not more easier.

That said, no matter what kind of operating system, I always clean each gun after being out with it.

Total strip down time to this point about 30 seconds. I used the term "operating rod" per this manufacturers terms. Normally I would just call it the piston/rod.






Now, I double dog dare anyone to make a bigger mess than myself (normally I do it outside but it still gets dark pretty quick so in the garage I go):tooth

 

[Alien Allen]

I highly recommend the Smith and Wesson M&P .40.

I can see why

 

[Darrell]

I can see why

I just put another 300 rounds through it yesterday, and grouping was excellent, and still not a SINGLE problem.

Highly recommended!!

 

[Codrus]

Eat me

 

[Darrell]

I took these to play with at the range last week, I forgot to post photos.

I think you guys have seen them all before with the exception of the S&W .22 revolver.

Pete was shooting the .45 GAP on the other side, and the Sig, and a KAHR 9mm which is a total POS. Every time I chamber a round in that POFS I get a F2F.

 

[All Else Failed]

nice


I love 1911s of all kinds

 

[Jaybird]

Aww. I need to get to the range. :/

 

[Darrell]

I love 1911s of all kinds

Same here. That specific 1911 is a Kimber Custom TLE II.

 

[Jaybird]

Okay. I will share one, for now. The Judge I was talking to you about Darrell.

It is the Night Court Judge Edition. Nothing as Fancy as you just posted, but I didnt have to open the safe to get at it, so here ya go.

 

[retro]

I got to play around with a bunch of AR-15 customs this weekend... a few chambered with .223, one in 5.56, one in 6.8, and even one in .22LR. :24:

 

[Darrell]

Okay. I will share one, for now. The Judge I was talking to you about Darrell.

It is the Night Court Judge Edition. Nothing as Fancy as you just posted, but I didnt have to open the safe to get at it, so here ya go.

.410 and .45 Long Colt, right?

 

[Jaybird]

.410 and .45 Long Colt, right?

Yup. I just dumped what was in the chambers out to take the pic. I had it loaded up bird, buck, 45, 45, 45.


I didnt even wipe it down as you can see prints and smudges on it. *shrug*

 

[All Else Failed]

Same here. That specific 1911 is a Kimber Custom TLE II.

Best 1911 I've ever shot was a WW1 model. The steel it is made from is easily the best steel I've ever seen on any 1911 since.

 

[Joe the meek]

I got to play around with a bunch of AR-15 customs this weekend... a few chambered with .223, one in 5.56, one in 6.8, and even one in .22LR. :24:

Do they manufacturer AR's now in .223?

I realize this is along the lines as "it's not a clip but a magazine" (I know, who cares), but generally speaking, everything I've used per the 5.56 round was chambered in 5.56x45. I've always known that you should not shoot a 5.56x45 in a .223 chambered rifle due to slight cartridge variations resulting in a much higher working pressure with 5.56, but generally speaking people just shoot .223 in their 5.56 and don't differentiate between the two. Kind of like the 7.62x51 vs .308

 

[Mercury]

Any suggestions for a good "starting" hunting rifle? I am interested in starting to try deer hunting and would like to get a rifle under $400.00 since it wouldn't be used much at all.

I just recently tried duck hunting and really enjoyed it ... Actually ... it is how I broke my ankle LOL! Slipped in mud and tried to save myself from falling. Before that ... never hunted anything and only went shooting once and that was YEARS ago. Anyway, any suggestions as to what to look for? Keep in mind that I am a BIG TIME novice in this so if you can be pretty descriptive it would help as I still am not all that familiar with firearms ... I now know all the differences in loading types and such but I still am a bit confused when it comes to the differences in calibers.

Thanks all

 

[Jaybird]

Any suggestions for a good "starting" hunting rifle? I am interested in starting to try deer hunting and would like to get a rifle under $400.00 since it wouldn't be used much at all.

I just recently tried duck hunting and really enjoyed it ... Actually ... it is how I broke my ankle LOL! Slipped in mud and tried to save myself from falling. Before that ... never hunted anything and only went shooting once and that was YEARS ago. Anyway, any suggestions as to what to look for? Keep in mind that I am a BIG TIME novice in this so if you can be pretty descriptive it would help as I still am not all that familiar with firearms ... I now know all the differences in loading types and such but I still am a bit confused when it comes to the differences in calibers.

Thanks all

Deer rifle under $400, and you are not very familiar with firearms or shooting?

Well, I will say two things that you should do then.

Get a cheap 22 rifle and learn marksmanship skills with that. You can get a single shot 22 rifle and a cheap scope for a little over $100. If you want something a little better and more fun in the 22 arena, get a ruger 10-22. Now, this is NOT for deer hunting. I dont know many states(if there are any) that one can hunt deer with rimfire 22(legally) nor do I consider it humane. This is just to learn the basics of shooting rifles and long distance shooting.

After that. It depends. I typically use a 30-30 Marlin 336. With Hornandy LeveRevolution ammo, and a decent scope, you can take deer out to about 200 yards. And that can probably be had for around $400. So I will recommend that.

But there is a wide variety of deer hunting rifles, and the best thing I can say is that one should really try to cater the rifle(specifically the caliber) to the environment one will be hunting in. But unless you are hunting on the mid-west open plains, where you could have really really long shots, the 30-30 is just fine. Anything between .270 and 30-06 is typically used for deer though. I like the 30-30 round, and is one of the 'standards', but in no way is it 'the standard' as every John, Bubba and Uncle Bob has his own preference.
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[All Else Failed]

Best all around hunting caliber is .280. imo