It's official, Huckabee is a crackpot.

[IntruderLS1]

Whoever loses "wasted" their vote by that standard.

 

[GraceAbounds]

Whoever loses "wasted" their vote by that standard.

:homo:

Yeah, I don't agree with it either. I think our system works just fine in that regard.

 

[Tim]

:homo:

Yeah, I don't agree with it either. I think our system works just fine in that regard.

I think this will make a great topic of discussion...

http://www.offtopicz.net/24792-electoral-college.html

 

[SRC]

What I am saying is, is that I believe much of campaign money to be a waste, when imo we have the means to run a Presidential campaign w/o so much waste.

lol oops

If they didn't make such a spectacle .. with the way today's society is (in regards to advertisement) .. no one would notice them.

 

[AtlanticBlue99]

I can't possibly disagree more with that. Our troops are in Japan/Korea/Germany/Spain etc for a reason. Quick reaction and deterrence. A necessary evil imo.

is it not more evil that we forcefully check and balance their lives and markets? we are asking for other factions to attack us.

 

[dt3]

is it not more evil that we forcefully check and balance their lives and markets? we are asking for other factions to attack us.

How do we "check and balance their lives and markets" in Japan, Germany, Spain, Italy, South Korea, Guam, or any of the other places we station troops?

 

[IntruderLS1]

How do we "check and balance their lives and markets" in Japan, Germany, Spain, Italy, South Korea, Guam, or any of the other places we station troops?

I agree.

The only stretch I could see being made would be the money that we spend over there, but most places seem to think that's a good thing.

 

[dt3]

I agree.

The only stretch I could see being made would be the money that we spend over there, but most places seem to think that's a good thing.

I never heard em complain

Hell, Okinawa would be nothing but starving farmers if we weren't there to feed them the almighty dollar.

 

[All Else Failed]

I never heard em complain

Hell, Okinawa would be nothing but starving farmers if we weren't there to feed them the almighty dollar.

well, we DID sort of destroy them in WW2.

 

[debbie t]

How do we "check and balance their lives and markets" in Japan, Germany, Spain, Italy, South Korea, Guam, or any of the other places we station troops?

crickey...europe?do germany spain italy know about this?oh and that us too then ?????

 

[Pudding Time]

crickey...europe?do germany spain italy know about this?oh and that us too then ?????

Have you not heard of Ramstein?



No not Rammstein!

Ramstein Air Base


It's a huge US base, of which is ultilized quite a bit in the Iraq war.

 

[dt3]

well, we DID sort of destroy them in WW2.

They started it

 

[Pudding Time]

They started it

The Japanese that vaporized weren't the Japanese that attacked Pearl Harbor, nor did they have a say in the matter.

 

[dt3]

The Japanese that vaporized weren't the Japanese that attacked Pearl Harbor, nor did they have a say in the matter.

Nice try, but we're talking about Okinawa. Who did, in fact, not get vaporized.

 

[gLing]

Okinawa is a beautiful place. Wish I could live there.

 

[Pudding Time]

Nice try, but we're talking about Okinawa. Who did, in fact, not get vaporized.

So why would they be poor farmer without the US? Why wouldn't they be as developed as mainland Japan?

 

[debbie t]

Have you not heard of Ramstein?



No not Rammstein!

Ramstein Air Base


It's a huge US base, of which is ultilized quite a bit in the Iraq war.

:24:yes ,i know that how they got their name

 

[dt3]

So why would they be poor farmer without the US? Why wouldn't they be as developed as mainland Japan?

Because they have absolutely no value on their own. They were almost completely disowned by the Japanese for being different culturally. Their land has no value besides for farming, yet only a tiny percentage of the land is suitable for farming.

Then we decided to build permanent bases there, and the cash flow ensued.

 

[Pudding Time]

Because they have absolutely no value on their own. They were almost completely disowned by the Japanese for being different culturally. Their land has no value besides for farming, yet only a tiny percentage of the land is suitable for farming.

Then we decided to build permanent bases there, and the cash flow ensued.

That was pre-WWII. The Japan's defeat in WWII also ended the Japanese Empire, and thus would have led to an acceptance of Okinawa from mainland Japan, wouldn't you say?.

 

[dt3]

That was pre-WWII. The Japan's defeat in WWII also ended the Japanese Empire, and thus would have led to an acceptance of Okinawa from mainland Japan, wouldn't you say?.

I would say that's assuming a lot and is basically revisionist history. We have no idea what would've happened. I doubt signing a peace treaty would supercede centuries of intolerance.