'Under God' Issue Back in Court

Personally I think having God in it makes a mockery of it and makes it meaningless. Is someone athiest is forced to say America is a country under God if they don't believe in God, what's the point? Its the same as all this swearing on the Bible shit in court. What's the point in me doing it if I think the Bible is a pile of shit?
 
All Else Failed said:
if you want to believe that, you can. But, I really don't think when they put it in the pledge, they were thinking of some sort of vague, universal deity.
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Amazing this thread is still rolling, I thought this was pretty much beaten up by us, however, I still do not see the harm.

I mean, it's the best of both worlds if you ask me. If your atheist, then the word God can't bother you because according to Atheist doctrine, he doesn't actually exist.

If you do think that a God of some sort exists, then it can be like a mad lib, fill in whatever you want to call "God"

If your atheist how can you feel imposed on by something you don't even think is there?

I still say that removing that word does not progress our nation one iota, how about a prescription drug plan for seniors, how about taking care of our veterans for once, ending hunger, making peace with other nations. Picking the Constitution apart does nothing to advance us, only seperate us further as a nation.

Really simple to me.
 
BadBoy@TheWheel said:
Amazing this thread is still rolling, I thought this was pretty much beaten up by us, however, I still do not see the harm.

I mean, it's the best of both worlds if you ask me. If your atheist, then the word God can't bother you because according to Atheist doctrine, he doesn't actually exist.

If you do think that a God of some sort exists, then it can be like a mad lib, fill in whatever you want to call "God"

If your atheist how can you feel imposed on by something you don't even think is there?

I still say that removing that word does not progress our nation one iota, how about a prescription drug plan for seniors, how about taking care of our veterans for once, ending hunger, making peace with other nations. Picking the Constitution apart does nothing to advance us, only seperate us further as a nation.

Really simple to me.
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Its not even about my belief that there is no god, its simply a constitutional problem to me.
 
All Else Failed said:
Uh, no. I don't think I'm being forcefully converted, nor do I know of any atheists that think that either, and I know a lot.
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Then there should be no issue then. Removing the word does not make the idea go away any more than leaving it makes it real.

I just think folks have run out of any real band wagon, this is popular right now.

But I have been hearing it for years. I'm over it:p
 
BadBoy@TheWheel said:
Then there should be no issue then. Removing the word does not make the idea go away any more than leaving it makes it real.

I just think folks have run out of any real band wagon, this is popular right now.

But I have been hearing it for years. I'm over it:p
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I'm arguing purely on constitutional principle of the fact that its presence in the pledge is illegal.

Then again, I think the pledge itself is pretty silly so idk I'm getting tired of talking about it. :p
 
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