You're No Hero

[Dana]

I'm not out to disrespect the dead with this thread, but i got the idea from another forum. I never knew who the fuck DJ AM was before this dude passed away. I know MTV has been shit for a decade but they're making this dude out to be some type of hero/savior for drug addicts. I don't think this is right! Who gives a fuck if you kicked your addiction, who made you an addict in the first place? Unless you were forcibly held down and drugged up the only one that gets themselves on drugs is themselves. If you hadn't fucked with drugs in the first place you wouldn't have to kick them would you?












We as a state here (those who actually pay taxes). Have to pay for these fucking addicts to go to methadone clinics to get drugs to get off of drugs... does that make sense? it doesn't to me.

 

[Alien Allen]

They should legalize all drugs and sell them and tax them like booze

Then use that money to help the addicts

If you do anything stupid on drugs you pay the price for the crime. If you mind your own business and stay home when high then nobody is being harmed.

Drugs is big business for this country. It fuels the govt. Instead of it fueling the economy. All the money spent on this moronic war on drugs is sickening.

 

[Dana]

They should legalize all drugs and sell them and tax them like booze

Then use that money to help the addicts

If you do anything stupid on drugs you pay the price for the crime. If you mind your own business and stay home when high then nobody is being harmed.

Drugs is big business for this country. It fuels the govt. Instead of it fueling the economy. All the money spent on this moronic war on drugs is sickening.

I don't agree

 

[Tangerine]

They should legalize all drugs and sell them and tax them like booze

Then use that money to help the addicts

If you do anything stupid on drugs you pay the price for the crime. If you mind your own business and stay home when high then nobody is being harmed.

Drugs is big business for this country. It fuels the govt. Instead of it fueling the economy. All the money spent on this moronic war on drugs is sickening.

I agree 100%.

 

[Alien Allen]

I don't agree

I did not ask you to

 

[Tomperi]

They should legalize all drugs and sell them and tax them like booze

Then use that money to help the addicts

If you do anything stupid on drugs you pay the price for the crime. If you mind your own business and stay home when high then nobody is being harmed.

Drugs is big business for this country. It fuels the govt. Instead of it fueling the economy. All the money spent on this moronic war on drugs is sickening.

That might just be a good idea..

 

[Guyzerr]

They should legalize all drugs and sell them and tax them like booze

Then use that money to help the addicts

If you do anything stupid on drugs you pay the price for the crime. If you mind your own business and stay home when high then nobody is being harmed.

Drugs is big business for this country. It fuels the govt. Instead of it fueling the economy. All the money spent on this moronic war on drugs is sickening.

:homo:
By leaving it illegal all it accomplishes is putting it underground and letting the criminal elements control it. The prohibition of booze proved that..

Unfortunately the war on drugs is big business for the US and many corporations / individuals are getting mighty rich off it.

 

[Tangerine]

:homo:
By leaving it illegal all it accomplishes is putting it underground and letting the criminal elements control it. The prohibition of booze proved that..

Unfortunately the war on drugs is big business for the US and many corporations / individuals are getting mighty rich off it.

Not to mention the billions that flow through the legal system by way of cops, lawyers, judges and prison operators.

 

[Zorak]

I'm not out to disrespect the dead with this thread, but i got the idea from another forum. I never knew who the fuck DJ AM was before this dude passed away. I know MTV has been shit for a decade but they're making this dude out to be some type of hero/savior for drug addicts. I don't think this is right! Who gives a fuck if you kicked your addiction, who made you an addict in the first place? Unless you were forcibly held down and drugged up the only one that gets themselves on drugs is themselves. If you hadn't fucked with drugs in the first place you wouldn't have to kick them would you?












We as a state here (those who actually pay taxes). Have to pay for these fucking addicts to go to methadone clinics to get drugs to get off of drugs... does that make sense? it doesn't to me.

No.
People should get off the drugs and should get help to get off them. Whether or not you think they shouldn't have messed with drugs in the first place is obvious and completely irrelevant.

Frankly I think consenting adults should be able to experiment legally with mind alterants if they so desire and are fully aware of the risks. Educate, then legislate and tax.

 

[Guyzerr]

Not to mention the billions that flow through the legal system by way of cops, lawyers, judges and prison operators.

That's part of what I was talking about when I mentioned " big business. "

 

[Dana]

This thread was more about people glorifying addicts as role models and heros just because they kicked their habit.

 

[Guyzerr]

This thread was more about people glorifying addicts as role models and heros just because they kicked their habit.

Kicking a bad habit can be quite an accomplishment so I see no harm in letting people know. What I find disturbing is the way they glorify the individual once he / she has come clean. I hate it when the media puts someone / anyone on a pedestal.

 

[darkangel]

I wish I had a BLUNT right now! :eek

 

[Azazel]

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[Goat Whisperer]

They should legalize all drugs and sell them and tax them like booze

Then use that money to help the addicts

If you do anything stupid on drugs you pay the price for the crime. If you mind your own business and stay home when high then nobody is being harmed.

Drugs is big business for this country. It fuels the govt. Instead of it fueling the economy. All the money spent on this moronic war on drugs is sickening.

Sorry, not a good idea. As far as weed goes, good idea, but not serious drugs that can kill people or get them full on a addicted in one use.

 

[Tangerine]

Sorry, not a good idea. As far as weed goes, good idea, but not serious drugs that can kill people or get them full on a addicted in one use.

You mean like alcohol?

Our drug problem is rampant anyway, despite being "illegal." How is changing the way we spend money to combat the problem a "bad idea?" If we spent 1/10th of the money from the "war on dugs" on education, prevention and treatment we'd have measureably fewer addicts.

 

[Goat Whisperer]

You mean like alcohol?

Our drug problem is rampant anyway, despite being "illegal." How is changing the way we spend money to combat the problem a "bad idea?" If we spent 1/10th of the money from the "war on dugs" on education, prevention and treatment we'd have measureably fewer addicts.

Alchohol is hard to kill yourself with on the first time, however, a drug like cocaine isn't. And it certainly isn't a addictive the first time you use it.

Even if we made them legal, we would still have to regulate the hell out of them--if not more. Because more people would be trying to sell home-made stuff illegally, it would still be illegal to teens I am sure (still lot's of police work to fight it on them), and if it is legal, about 90% of people in drug programs would quit, becuase they would have no risk to going to jail if they left.

At my mom's work, 90% of the people there, were put there in a second chance program, instead of going to jail. If they leave or are kicked out, they go to prison. Therefore a lot of people graduate the program that wouldn't have otherwise. Only 30% or so relapse.

And people who are on drugs are still not going to work. And new addicts are also not going to work or quit working (drugs tend to make you far less physically motivated to work). So crime rates are going to stay the same, or even increase, and it will probably harm our economy more then it would help.

 

[Leananshee]

Well, that and the price of street drugs would plummet, which would put many of the distributors out of business.

Back to the OP, no, maybe people who get clean shouldn't be put on a pedestal, but showing them does put a real face on what drugs really do to people.

tim :eek

 

[Alien Allen]

The drug culture is already there. The opponents of legalization make it like we are opening a pandoras box when that box was opened long ago. Meanwhile you have young poor kids growing up in an atmosphere where they feel their only road to success and wealth is to deal drugs.

We spend a shit load of money on trying to prevent what can not be prevented. That money would be far better spent on better education and rehabilitation.

As to glorifying ex addicts I tend to agree. Kudos to them for getting off the drugs but lets not put them on a pedistal.

 

[Tangerine]

So crime rates are going to stay the same, or even increase, and it will probably harm our economy more then it would help.

I'll focus on this one point.

By "Crime rates" I assume you mean crimes like theft and robbery commited by people attempting to get money to support their drug habit. First, legallized and regulated drugs would be far less expensive than the current black market. That alone would reduce at least a portion of that crime. But second, and most importantly, the use, manufacture and distribution of drugs is all currently "crime." The occurance of THAT crime VASTLY outnumbers the "crime" you speak of. So as a whole, "crime" would be reduced exponentially by legalizing drugs.