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I'll take a woman 25+ any day. Inexperience ruins the fun ;)
i couldnt agree with you more.
this one 28 year old mother i knew was kinda a freak. she read books and shit on how to have better sex and give better head.
and god damn. best BJ ever had
 
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I wouldn't say porn itself is bad, I just don't prefer to look at it, I mean the majority of the population looks at porn at least once in their lifetime, does that make them all bad and wrong?

..I bet greats have looked at porn.
 

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i think everybody has atleast glanced at porn for curiousity's sake.
I think its wrong......i guess it would keep sex crazed maniacs from raping people.....
but what about a case like this.

theres a these vids called "money talks"
and basically these guys find random chicks, waitresses, chambermaids, girls in college, ect. and pay them to have sex on camera......
HELLO ISN'T THIS PROSTITUTION? Just cuz its on camera doesn't make that much different. Thats one aspect of porn that bugs me alot. Like some of it is so border-line prostitution that i can't even see how its not illegal
 

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I wouldn't say porn itself is bad, I just don't prefer to look at it, I mean the majority of the population looks at porn at least once in their lifetime, does that make them all bad and wrong?

..I bet greats have looked at porn.
I think porn is bad. But just because I think porn is bad does not mean that I think that the people that look at it or have looked at it are bad people. If so then I'd have to label myself as a bad person and I know I'm not.
 

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I think porn is bad. But just because I think porn is bad does not mean that I think that the people that look at it or have looked at it are bad people. If so then I'd have to label myself as a bad person and I know I'm not.

Why is porn bad though? I'm not saying it's amazing, but why is it bad? It's become pretty much a natural thing of life. People have sexual urges or fantasies, and porn can help express those. It's better than having a person go out and rape somebody.

This issue would not even come up if people cared about people and who they are on the inside. Why make googlie eyes over an image, someone you don't even know? You aren't looking at them as a person - you don't know their person - all you see is their body. Life is so short; spend that time thinking about people, real people, people you love. You can be a very sexual being without looking at pornography.

Strip clubs are just as bad. And you can't really be a "very sexual being" without looking at porn. It's not like you can go up to girls you know and try to be sexual. They can just reject you. That's where porn comes into play. It also works for people that don't get to have sex as easily as some other people. Some people aren't popular enough or good-looking enough or cool enough to go out and have sex and see a person naked and whatnot, so porn can be a solution to that.

As for the other bolded phrases, you're actually proving the point of porn. People use it as a way to be sexual, with no real consequences. They can see the body they want to see, without any long-term consequences. And actually, you would be thinking about the person you're watching in the porn video.

Here's a good question: What if the porn you're watching is a porn video of a friend you know?
 

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i think everybody has atleast glanced at porn for curiousity's sake.
I think its wrong......i guess it would keep sex crazed maniacs from raping people.....
but what about a case like this.

theres a these vids called "money talks"
and basically these guys find random chicks, waitresses, chambermaids, girls in college, ect. and pay them to have sex on camera......
HELLO ISN'T THIS PROSTITUTION? Just cuz its on camera doesn't make that much different. Thats one aspect of porn that bugs me alot. Like some of it is so border-line prostitution that i can't even see how its not illegal
What?
 
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Why is porn bad though? I'm not saying it's amazing, but why is it bad? It's become pretty much a natural thing of life. People have sexual urges or fantasies, and porn can help express those. It's better than having a person go out and rape somebody.



Strip clubs are just as bad. And you can't really be a "very sexual being" without looking at porn. It's not like you can go up to girls you know and try to be sexual. They can just reject you. That's where porn comes into play. It also works for people that don't get to have sex as easily as some other people. Some people aren't popular enough or good-looking enough or cool enough to go out and have sex and see a person naked and whatnot, so porn can be a solution to that.

As for the other bolded phrases, you're actually proving the point of porn. People use it as a way to be sexual, with no real consequences. They can see the body they want to see, without any long-term consequences. And actually, you would be thinking about the person you're watching in the porn video.

Here's a good question: What if the porn you're watching is a porn video of a friend you know?

Your arguing with a grown woman about the importance of porn in society? In all your 16 years of life, this is what you have deduced about porn? I'm the post perverted person here, but even I know the evils of porn.
 

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I think porn is bad. But just because I think porn is bad does not mean that I think that the people that look at it or have looked at it are bad people. If so then I'd have to label myself as a bad person and I know I'm not.
So you are against porn..but have looked at porn yourself? I wouldn't say I hate porn, actually, but I wouldn't say its good. It itself isn't bad in my eyes, I think its a bad thing to do, and the people in it are messing there lives up, and sure, i guess it wouldn't be too bad without porn, but porn just doesn't seem bad exactly. Just kinda..wrong.
 

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This was originally about legal aged women who try to pass themselves off as younger than they are. I'm sure the reasons they do this are varied but one of the main ones will be that they can - while there is a market for something, there will always be people willing to sell it.

The Japanese have a fascination with young girls & an industry that churns out lots of product, pictures of women dressed as schoolgirls (long socks, short skirts etc), manga films (many of which feature young girls).

Then this topic drifted towards pornography, the problem is that there was no definition given. Porno can include any media that provides sexual gratification. This means that for some people a picture of a woman wearing high heels is pornographic. Pornography is a personal thing, it just so happens that for the majority of guys, it will be a naked woman... but does this mean that the Venus de Milo is pornography?

It's a very complex topic.

Allan
 

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I'm starting this after seeing some CSI type program where a guy was having a relationship with a girl of 19 who because of some condition looked about 10. There are girls who pose for porn who may be 18 but some of them look much younger than that. Do you think its right if a man is turned on by that and do you think its still ok for them to pose? I find this a hard one to answer to be honest, I think its sick to be deliberately trying to get turned on by little girls but then if they are of a legal age, what really is wrong with it? Do you think people who get turned on by this are taking the first step toward being a paedophile?

I believe I saw the same episode on CSI (towards the end I think) and had mixed feelings about the relationship. On the one hand I was wondering if the guy was getting off on the girl (woman) because she looked like she was underage or if that wasn't necessarily the reason but that after getting to know her, assuming he knew she was an adult, that he fell in love with her for the right reasons. It was a hard call and I kept having doubts either way. The way they presented it of course had you wondering.

On the other hand, on the girl's side I was thinking she was not responsible for her condition and that she was entitled to love and be loved like anyone else also. After all she was an adult. Just trapped in the body she was dealt with. Granted I didn't see the show from the start so I might have missed something. If it is that the feelings were genuine and not based on some perverted aspect then I think it was all right.

About the porn. I think it is clear. If a grown man is turned on by porn or whatever by young girls (or girls that look the part) something is not right with that and he could be harboring perverted thoughts and may act up on it.

With that being said, your question: "Do you think people who get turned on by this are taking the first step toward being a paedophile?"

Answer: Yes.
 

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With that being said, your question: "Do you think people who get turned on by this are taking the first step toward being a paedophile?"

Answer: Yes.

I don't agree with this. It's my opinion that none of us gets a choice over our sexual inclination - I did not choose to be heterosexual, I just grew up liking females. A choice is where you weigh up the good & bad points of a number of options & then pick the one you most desire.

I have never heard of a heterosexual, or anybody for that matter, sitting down & thinking about whether he/she prefers boys or girls, so I don't think that anyone gets a choice. If that is true, then homosexuals, paedophiles etc don't get a choice, they are born that way, just as a heterosexual is.

If that is not true & paedophilia is an illness, a mental disease, then shouldn't we take pity on these poor people, like we do with other mentally ill people, such as schizophrenics, manics etc? Instead all we want to do, as a society is to kill them.

Allan
 

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If a man was only attracted to girls who appeared to be underage regardless of actual age, wouldn't there have to be a concern that their leaning was towards pedophilia?
Would they be scrupulous enough to check the actual age?
 

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If that is not true & paedophilia is an illness, a mental disease, then shouldn't we take pity on these poor people, like we do with other mentally ill people, such as schizophrenics, manics etc? Instead all we want to do, as a society is to kill them.

Allan

Not when their "sickness" impacts upon the lives of young children and changes the course of their lives and leaves an indelible mark on their minds and diminishes their chances at having a normal (for want of a better word) life.
 

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Not when their "sickness" impacts upon the lives of young children and changes the course of their lives and leaves an indelible mark on their minds and diminishes their chances at having a normal (for want of a better word) life.

Isn't that what all these other illnesses did before we managed to bring most of them under control - recognize them for what they are & then fed the mentally ill drugs until they fitted into society better?

Allan
 

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but have looked at porn yourself?
I've already answered this in this thread.

I wouldn't say I hate porn, actually, but I wouldn't say its good. It itself isn't bad in my eyes, I think its a bad thing to do, and the people in it are messing there lives up, and sure, i guess it wouldn't be too bad without porn, but porn just doesn't seem bad exactly. Just kinda..wrong.
This makes absolutely no sense. You are contradicting yourself.

Then this topic drifted towards pornography, the problem is that there was no definition given. Porno can include any media that provides sexual gratification. This means that for some people a picture of a woman wearing high heels is pornographic. Pornography is a personal thing, it just so happens that for the majority of guys, it will be a naked woman... but does this mean that the Venus de Milo is pornography?

It's a very complex topic.

Allan
Great post Allan. Very true, it is a complex topic, such as when does art cross the line and become pornography? Most definitions of pornography are pretty loose and 'can' encompass things that are not actually considered pornographic to others.

I don't agree with this. It's my opinion that none of us gets a choice over our sexual inclination - I did not choose to be heterosexual, I just grew up liking females. A choice is where you weigh up the good & bad points of a number of options & then pick the one you most desire.
I have never heard of a heterosexual, or anybody for that matter, sitting down & thinking about whether he/she prefers boys or girls, so I don't think that anyone gets a choice.
I have some gay friends that say they were born gay and others that say they choose to be gay. So while I respect your right to your opinion, I don't agree with it.

If that is true, then homosexuals, paedophiles etc don't get a choice, they are born that way, just as a heterosexual is.
Whether they are born that way or not, they do have a choice as to their actions.

If that is not true & paedophilia is an illness, a mental disease, then shouldn't we take pity on these poor people
I can be compassionate toward their the burden they bare. But if they have sex with a minor I have no pity on them, because it is against the law for them to have sex with minors.

Not when their "sickness" impacts upon the lives of young children and changes the course of their lives and leaves an indelible mark on their minds and diminishes their chances at having a normal (for want of a better word) life.
Agree'd.
 

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Not when their "sickness" impacts upon the lives of young children and changes the course of their lives and leaves an indelible mark on their minds and diminishes their chances at having a normal (for want of a better word) life.

I have another word for this - it's called religion (to be really cheeky & infuriating to some people).

Sorry for the double post - sometimes I can't stop myself.

Allan
 

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I don't agree with this. It's my opinion that none of us gets a choice over our sexual inclination - I did not choose to be heterosexual, I just grew up liking females. A choice is where you weigh up the good & bad points of a number of options & then pick the one you most desire.

I have never heard of a heterosexual, or anybody for that matter, sitting down & thinking about whether he/she prefers boys or girls, so I don't think that anyone gets a choice. If that is true, then homosexuals, paedophiles etc don't get a choice, they are born that way, just as a heterosexual is.

If that is not true & paedophilia is an illness, a mental disease, then shouldn't we take pity on these poor people, like we do with other mentally ill people, such as schizophrenics, manics etc? Instead all we want to do, as a society is to kill them.

Allan

I've wondered the same thing myself if you can blame people for something the was thrust upon them and not chosen.
There is no doubt the harm that these practises cause so the innocent have to be protected.
Perhaps it has to be looked at the same way other choices are made in our lives and self control exercised when the outcome of our choices could be harmful
We have to control anger and aggression which come naturally to a lot of humans so why not sexual proclivities as well.
There's no doubt that sexual offenders understand what they do is wrong.
That understanding gives them a choice.
 

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I can be compassionate toward their the burden they bare. But if they have sex with a minor I have no pity on them, because it is against the law for them to have sex with minors.

It's also against the law for a manic depressive or a schizophrenic to hurt someone as a result of an episode, but we still treat them with dignity.

There was an incident here in Australia where a schizophrenic used a knife & held the police at bay until one of them shot him - caused a lot of people to get upset saying that because he was ill, it was wrong to shoot him. Would people feel the same way about a paedophile?

Allan
 
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