such pleas are not tenable at law...
you must be sure before indicting anyone about a crime...or just shut up!
WTF 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' policy is good for?
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Listen to what I am saying...it will save you much grief.
He did not defame you...if the authoritative news sources in PK are making up stuff about you..then you have to go after them.
If the news sources in PK are conspiring against you then go after them by all means.
Why do you want to go after stone...when you should be upset with the sources?{confused smiley here}..I find it odd that you direct your emotions to stone rather than the authoritative news sources.
Actually, I was only wondering about possible involvement.
Now that you've provided your thoughts, I am now wondering?
Point......I have presented a solid argument with linkage that you are Mazhar Butt, and you took over Mekran from your father.
You deny this. That does look like intentional deception, mazHur.
Here we go with the typical mazHur contradictions.
I asked why you weren't arrested?
All you are doing is creating more questions.
Did you go to jail?
None of the directors were prosecuted as far as I can tell. Were you?
I lost trust in you long ago, mazHur.
You've left a trail of personal information on the Internet that along with the links I've provided, have generated questions you don't like.
Unless you can show me why you are not mazHur the poet, and not involved with Merkan/Makran at the time of the loans, I can not apologize for what I found leading to the question:
'Why weren't you arrested?'
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You dont know how the law works MAZ.
He did not write those articles..he only gathered information from them.
You have to go after the source for instance..Lets say rock start abc is accused of cutting off his child's nose as he was caught picking it,
You can not sue every forum member facebook user etc..that says hey..rock star abc cut off his childs nose.
Rock star abc would have to sue who started the rumor in an effort to damage the character of abc rock star.
Thing is maz..stone didnt gather copy and paste "evidence" from facebook and such but rather only shared information which is already available to the public...via public websites /these websites were also independent of each other.
What you are claiming is the authoritative news sources in PK have conspired against you to damage your character.....and stone found it.
Ok...so he found the articles...so if i click the links..you going to sue me too?
Let's review:
http://www.poemhunter.com/mazhur-butt/
Note the avatar and the poem, bananas, that you posted here with out posting credit.
http://mazhurbutt.blogspot.com/
Note the avatar
Your blog, where you posted an article by 'Mazhar Butt' with the same likeness image as that avatar.
The poem "It is Too Titty to be a Preacher" exits on that blog as well as OTZ
http://www.offtopicz.net/threads/it-is-too-titty-to-be-a-preacher.77516/#post-2155198
mazHur logically is Mazhar Butt the poet.
You deny this, mazHur, but I have demonstrated you are the poet mazHur that also goes by the name Mazhar Butt.
mazHur the poet has another page:
http://english.agonia.net/index.php/author/0025358/_mazHur
where he links to a description of his business success in Mekran Fisheries Ltd and is named "Mazhar Butt"
http://www.jacketflap.com/profile.asp?member=mazhur
mazhur the poet lists that as his bio.
I've made you from OTZ member to Mekran Fisheries Ltd business man.
I made the connection between Mekran and Makran through same address and sharing of a telephone and fax number
http://www.mekranfisheriespvtltd.enic.pk/
http://www.ecosecretariat.org/ECOTr...d_products/Demand_Supply_Surveys/Pakistan.doc
You know what's coming next.....the bank loan defaults
https://groups.google.com/forum/?_e...s/De1CoojK0bE#!topic/pakistannews/De1CoojK0bE
http://www.pakistantoday.com.pk/201...panies-whose-loans-were-written-off-by-banks/
Now
http://www.pakissan.com/english/news/newsDetail.php?newsid=11840
Your brother Azhar is mentioned in you bio link and a man with the same name mentioned in the Makran loan default.
http://www.pakistantoday.com.pk/201...panies-whose-loans-were-written-off-by-banks/
As two men by the name of Butt are involved in the Makran loan default were arrested, and a man with the same name as your brother listed in the default, I ask.........why weren't you arrested?
You could have posted you had no involvement, but denied the associations I have presented in doing so..
Looks bad, mazHur.
Makes you look like you are trying to hide something.
What are you trying to hide?
http://www.poemhunter.com/mazhur-butt/
Note the avatar and the poem, bananas, that you posted here with out posting credit.
http://mazhurbutt.blogspot.com/
Note the avatar
Your blog, where you posted an article by 'Mazhar Butt' with the same likeness image as that avatar.
The poem "It is Too Titty to be a Preacher" exits on that blog as well as OTZ
http://www.offtopicz.net/threads/it-is-too-titty-to-be-a-preacher.77516/#post-2155198
mazHur logically is Mazhar Butt the poet.
You deny this, mazHur, but I have demonstrated you are the poet mazHur that also goes by the name Mazhar Butt.
mazHur the poet has another page:
http://english.agonia.net/index.php/author/0025358/_mazHur
where he links to a description of his business success in Mekran Fisheries Ltd and is named "Mazhar Butt"
http://www.jacketflap.com/profile.asp?member=mazhur
mazhur the poet lists that as his bio.
I've made you from OTZ member to Mekran Fisheries Ltd business man.
I made the connection between Mekran and Makran through same address and sharing of a telephone and fax number
http://www.mekranfisheriespvtltd.enic.pk/
http://www.ecosecretariat.org/ECOTr...d_products/Demand_Supply_Surveys/Pakistan.doc
You know what's coming next.....the bank loan defaults
https://groups.google.com/forum/?_e...s/De1CoojK0bE#!topic/pakistannews/De1CoojK0bE
http://www.pakistantoday.com.pk/201...panies-whose-loans-were-written-off-by-banks/
Now
http://www.pakissan.com/english/news/newsDetail.php?newsid=11840
Your brother Azhar is mentioned in you bio link and a man with the same name mentioned in the Makran loan default.
http://www.pakistantoday.com.pk/201...panies-whose-loans-were-written-off-by-banks/
It's reasonable to conclude Makran and Mekran are/were linked in some manner involving your family.
As two men by the name of Butt are involved in the Makran loan default were arrested, and a man with the same name as your brother listed in the default, I ask.........why weren't you arrested?
You could have posted you had no involvement, but denied the associations I have presented in doing so..
Looks bad, mazHur.
Makes you look like you are trying to hide something.
What are you trying to hide?
You have a dreadful logic of law. Law doesn't allow anybody to malign anybody innocent of what he is not. If somebody does that that is an offense punishable at law. And this is what Stone is doing despite my warnings...and his reliance on the evidence he is trying to back up his claim is bogus. It's the mens rea which counts and obviously mens rea behind Stone's and even your accusations and disparaging remarks and outbursts is malafide,,,
you could be an accomplice if you tried to come up with your detestable logic of law which only jury will decide. you can give your logic there and see how they kick you in the crotch.
My claim for damages against Stone will amount to whatever he has,,,his house and his shares, if any.
LOL
He has done nothing wrong.....if you feel that the news sources in PK are making up stuff about you then sue them.
You really need to re read my last few prior posts....its how it works.
As it is...you are now acting like a woman....faced with the truth you get all emotional lol
What are you trying to assert?? Does a rhyming word means the same to you? You are a fool and you haven't even stated the nabbed guys names properly which are as quoted in the clipping you posted here as ''Azharul Hasan Butt and Mansoorul Haq Butt were arrested''.................Are you blind? Can't you see the huge difference between those names and mine, mazHur??
There can be many people named mazHur or even Mazhur or mazhar or mazher butt ..that doesn't necessarily mean it's me/ \
and even if it's me what are you trying to assert despite my telling you again and again that I have NO involvement with the company Mekran or the people nabbed for bank default.
certainly you are a wicked and confused man with malafide intentions and ulterior motives against me...at one point you call me a poet at other a criminal!! Wow! Without even knowing me you are trying to involve me in a criminal case which never had any concern with me...
Google and you will find several jack stones there....living in Ohio.
that doesn't mean it's YOU....and if i specifically state that you are Al Capone that would amount to defamation and you are exactly doing that...
Be prepared for the trial.....law will not let you off so easily nor your associate....it's the mens rea which matters...you have tried to disrepute me by dint of bogus info picked from internet and attributed to me...you are on notice!
and you are meddling like a sissy...
It's not the Pk news ,,,,they are right only you are wrong, Stone is barking the wrong tree and committing an illegal act. Mods please check out ....and decide.
Those sources go back to news sites maz
Irrelevant statement.
Your family name 'Butt' is the same as theirs. Whether you are related is something I could not and did not prove or claim.
Also an irrelevant comment.
I made the association from posts you made at various web sites.
Even if?
Sir, I made the connection and in your bio, presented your relationship to building up your father's failing business, the company called Mekran Fisheries Ltd.
mazHur.....I keep catching you in what appear to be false denials.
And there is the issue of your brother's name showing up in association to both Mekran and Makran with both sharring the same address, a phone number and a fax.
Again, I catch you in what appears to be a false denial.
You are a poet......but I asked why you weren't arrested, not why you shouldn't have been arrested.
Sincerely.....I think you are merely full of yourself and easy pickings in a debate forum.
But your denials and aggressive behavior do make me wonder what it is you are trying to hide.
There's more than 'several'.
And you are correct.
But if I posted contact information all over the Internet like you do/did....I'd be a lot easier to find.
Finding info on you has been not just easy, not time consuming because of obvious search terms.
I would never post my address or phone number on the Internet.......thank you
Interesting.....I can call you a terrorist loving, racist pervert......and it doesn't upset you.
Probably because I proved the point many times.
But you get very excited when I make the connection between mazHur of OTZ, mazHur/Mazhar the poet and Mazhar Butt the businessman
BTW.....the amount of name calling you've done in this debate forum, with out proof, with out credible logic or even speculation, puts you, mazHur, far ahead in defaming both myself, my family and Man and his family.
Like I posted, you are the ultimate hypocrite of OTZ.
The threat only works the first time if it's going to work at all, mazHur.
You started with similar threats weeks ago.
Threatening Man, now, are you?
Read my review.....I presented the case for your actions to be considered frivolous and have no doubt a lawyer would recommend suing you over it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frivolous_litigation
The court may even sanction your lawyer over it.
So, really, what are you trying to hide?
What haven't I found?
Are you using the report button?
I ask because you've made statements like that before and I didn't see any moderating being done.
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I forgot, did someone recently make you a moderator?
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You're just upset
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And some sites where mazHur posted, leaving interesting information about himself.
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fascinating
btw
I am fluent in French and also a Canadian if Mazhurs gf cannot help out with the documents I would be more than happy too
I am fluent in French and also a Canadian if Mazhurs gf cannot help out with the documents I would be more than happy too
The bigger question..do you have to fly to the shit hole to appear scanning rooftops as you commute or possibly be executed in front of the govt building..or would it be here in the states where it is safe.
Either way...you wont be served...as they will have to read these threads..they will be laughing so hard..I expect MAZ will storm out in anger.
Either way...you wont be served...as they will have to read these threads..they will be laughing so hard..I expect MAZ will storm out in anger.
lets wait for the documents to be served
interesting
interesting
Could take years..as it sits now there is no case.
Excellent...as it is very dangerous for Americans to be there according to Maz...he currently resides in the most dangerous mega city in the world.
You can get executed for drinking out of the wrong cup..even if you are a pk citizen...Not only that he also reports how the Taliban thrive there...He also disputed the claim of 60 terrorist organizations in PK and said it was more than a hundred.
People literally shoot from rooftops and upload them to video sites as if it is an ordinary day.
NOT a safe place for an American to be...I suspects he knows his case is sure to lose..but knows you have a very high risk of great bodily harm just by being in PK..With the Taliban controlling 25 percent of the city he resides in you may not even be safe at the airport...of which he has stated he is a "stones throw" from while he heavily down played the terrorists attack at the airport and claims the media is not telling the truth in regard to the terrorist attack.
Additionally I expect it would be difficult to get around in as well due to the language barrier...I expect the only English you will find are the letters "U-S-A" on the drones above.
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