Why do you believe in God?

[Carthage]

Seriously, why?

I consider myself an objectivist, so I need a reason. Mine is thus: If we take the Law of Identity in the way that Rand described it, then the universe, and existance, cannot have come out of nothing. Nothing is nothing, and it behaves in a like manner. It cannot produce everything. Therefore, there must have been a being to create something from nothing.
Now, Rand said that having a conciousness which is concious of nothing is a contradiction that cannot exist. But so is nothing producing everything. And seeing as how man does not have an understanding of what is beyond this world, we can only associate God's mind with our conciousness, but I believe that they are only the closest we can come to understanding. So God is a sort of super-conciousness, above our understanding.
Why am I a Christian? Because it's the most rational religion, in my opinion.

 

[Ria]

This is a duplicate thread in same section.

 

[dt3]

Why do you believe what Rand said?

 

[Dana]

You're an odd kid

 

[Carthage]

You're an odd kid

Yeah, I get that a lot.

Why do you believe what Rand said?

It's the most logical approach. In an objective reality, which we have proof of via our senses and mind, A=A.

 

[All Else Failed]

Seriously, why?

I consider myself an objectivist, so I need a reason. Mine is thus: If we take the Law of Identity in the way that Rand described it, then the universe, and existance, cannot have come out of nothing. Nothing is nothing, and it behaves in a like manner. It cannot produce everything. Therefore, there must have been a being to create something from nothing.
Now, Rand said that having a conciousness which is concious of nothing is a contradiction that cannot exist. But so is nothing producing everything. And seeing as how man does not have an understanding of what is beyond this world, we can only associate God's mind with our conciousness, but I believe that they are only the closest we can come to understanding. So God is a sort of super-conciousness, above our understanding.
Why am I a Christian? Because it's the most rational religion, in my opinion.

This applies to god as well. You're going to say "well god has always existed" but that doesn't address my point.


And actually matter has formed out of "thin air" in some experiments in vacuums.

 

[NicAuf]

This is why I love not caring about the existence of God...makes life easier.

 

[Mase]

This is why I love not caring about the existence of God...makes life easier.

:homo:

 

[sharpies]

... which God?

Allan

 

[All Else Failed]

Odin. He owns Christ so hard.

 

[satinbutterfly]

Because some day he'll let me part the Ohio River like he let Moses part the Red Sea. :smiley24:

 

[Pudding Time]

I'd like Rand to explain Ball Lightning with his logic.

 

[Elle]

*sigh*

It's unfortunate, and I need to do more research as to why I cannot answer this with validity.

Just saying, "because I do," just doesn't seem good enough, or fair enough within a discussion.

I'll get back to you.

 

[All Else Failed]

Most people believe because they were raised to do so.

 

[Godsloveapples]

I believe in God because God's existance has been proven and backed up by science. In some religious books, there are evidence that can prove the existance of God. Darwin's theory of Evolution has been proven wrong by science. Dr. Albert Einstein proved that the Big Bang and Redshift Theories are false. Nothing supports Atheism except for fictitious beliefs.

 

[Breath]

I believe in God because God's existance has been proven and backed up by science.

You're going to have to show those proofs.
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[sharpies]

I believe in God because God's existance has been proven and backed up by science. In some religious books, there are evidence that can prove the existance of God. Darwin's theory of Evolution has been proven wrong by science. Dr. Albert Einstein proved that the Big Bang and Redshift Theories are false. Nothing supports Atheism except for fictitious beliefs.

Surely this reply has a number of different levels to it.

1. It is in the wrong section & should be moved over to the 'humour' section.

2. It is an attempt at getting a response out of someone that is over the top.

3. It is a post by a person who genuinely believes all that was written & is perhaps the most scary of the three because it shows a distinct lack of education or knowledge on any of the points that it tries to pass off as truth.

I suspect that it is a level 2 attack & only ask that if not a level 2 attack, then show some (read 'any') evidence to back up any of your 'facts'.

Allan

 

[GraceAbounds]

I believe in God because of the difference He has made in my life. My own life is proof enough for me. It is nothing short of miraculous. I've seen Him totally change and save others as well.

I feel His spirit within me and it forces me to move and do things that I never would have done before I accepted Him into my life. Through Him all things are possible. He has worked through me in ways that I know that I could not or would not have even desired to do on my own.

Every Word of His that I follow blesses me in exactly the way He said He would bless me if I accepted Him and chose to be obedient. His guidelines set me free to live life more fully. It is in Him that I am free. I no longer believe and live my life according to the lies of this world that once use to bind me. And I am ever so grateful to Christ for that.

 

[Elle]

I believe in God because God's existance has been proven and backed up by science. In some religious books, there are evidence that can prove the existance of God. Darwin's theory of Evolution has been proven wrong by science. Dr. Albert Einstein proved that the Big Bang and Redshift Theories are false. Nothing supports Atheism except for fictitious beliefs.

*Ahem* Your imagination does not make these statements "proven" or factual.

 

[Godsloveapples]

Surely this reply has a number of different levels to it.

1. It is in the wrong section & should be moved over to the 'humour' section.

2. It is an attempt at getting a response out of someone that is over the top.

3. It is a post by a person who genuinely believes all that was written & is perhaps the most scary of the three because it shows a distinct lack of education or knowledge on any of the points that it tries to pass off as truth.

I suspect that it is a level 2 attack & only ask that if not a level 2 attack, then show some (read 'any') evidence to back up any of your 'facts'.

Allan

I'm sorry, I didn't intend to offend anyone in any kind of way. I was just answering the question. I don't believe all that was written, I only believe in facts, which are in the Holy Quran...I do not think that you can prove anything in the Quran to be false. Here are the evidence you requested:

1. God's existance has been proven and backed up by science:

• The attributes of the universe discovered by science point to the existence of God. Science leads us to the conclusion that the universe has a Creator and this Creator is perfect in might, wisdom and knowledge. It is religion that shows us the way in knowing God. It is therefore possible to say that science is a method we use to better see and investigate the realities addressed by religion. Nevertheless, today, some of the scientists who step forth in the name of science take an entirely different stand. In their view, scientific discoveries do not imply the creation of God. They have, on the contrary, projected an atheistic understanding of science by saying that it is not possible to reach God through scientific data: they claim that science and religion are two clashing notions....For more, please visit: Harun Yahya - SCIENTISTS CONFIRM THE SIGN OF GOD - Download Page

2. In some religious books, there are evidence that can prove the existance of God.

• In the Quran, which, I may add was, 1,440 years ago, "Many diverse subjects are mentioned in the Qur'an while also inviting people to believe. Sometimes the heavens, sometimes animals, and sometimes plants are mentioned as evidence of Allah's existence. In many of these verses, people are called upon to consider their own creation. They are often reminded how man came into the world, which stages he has passed through, and what his essence is".....For more, please visit: Miracles of the Qur'an - Modern Science Reveals New Miracles of the Qur'an
• For other evidence, please visit: Miracles of the Qur'an - Modern Science Reveals New Miracles of the Qur'an

3. Darwin's theory of Evolution has been proven wrong by science.

• The theory of evolution is a philosophy and a conception of the world that produces false hypotheses, assumptions and imaginary scenarios in order to explain the existence and origin of life in terms of mere coincidences. The roots of this philosophy go back as far as antiquity and ancient Greece....For more, please visit: Harun Yahya - THE EVOLUTION DECEIT - Download Page
• For other evidence, please visit: Harun Yahya - THE COLLAPSE OF THE THEORY OF EVOLUTION - Download Page

4. Dr. Albert Einstein proved that the Big Bang and Redshift Theories are false.

• The Big Bang Theory states that the universe was once a dense, hot body of matter that exploded and has been expanding since the beginning, some 10 to 20 billion years ago. Dr. Einstein's formula shows that the material could not exceed the speed of light as it expanded. Mass becomes infinite as its speed approaches the speed of light. Increasing the energy in the initial "bang" cannot increase the speed beyond the speed of light. The mass will increase proportionately as the initial energy is increased. The mass increases to approach infinity as the energy level approaches infinity. The big bang theory violates this scientifically proven law that was discovered by Dr. Einstein...For more, please visit: The Big Bang and Redshift Theories Have Many Big Flaws, Errors and Problems.​