Fox Mulder
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. . . I don't get it. Can you give me a good reason? (need a confused emoticon here)
Because we care?
If you REALLY cared you'd take a few economics classes to realize how much dumb liberal fiscal policies actually hurt the poor not help them.
Universal Healthcare, Free education, Welfare, Public Housing... They hurt the poor?
Or I dunno, maybe we are liberals because we belivie in Social Justice, Equality and individual liberty.
Universal Healthcare, Free education, Welfare, Public Housing... They hurt the poor?
Or I dunno, maybe we are liberals because we belivie in Social Justice, Equality and individual liberty.
Are you a conservative? jw
:homo:If you substitute equality for fairness, I think most people believe in these ideas. There are just different opinions as to how to realize them. I'm not very polarized on Politics, and I'd be offended if you tried to claim them as "liberal only."
If you substitute equality for fairness, I think most people believe in these ideas. There are just different opinions as to how to realize them. I'm not very polarized on Politics, and I'd be offended if you tried to claim them as "liberal only."
That does not answer the question. Explain to me how each one of those you just mentioned has helped the poor?
What? of course not, I am just saying alot of liberals identify themselves with those ideals.
Explain how they hurt the poor?
What a strange topic! Why are Conservatives conservative, as much? As far as I'm aware being Liberal is a huge, vague and very broad minded look out, the same as Conservatism. Its not like being Liberal means you're a Communist or anything the same as being a Conservative means you're a racist. it's very hard to argue such a vague question.
Peter, you need to understand that in the last 10-20 years the conservatives in this country has distorted the term Liberal into a negative term. There is nothing wrong with being liberal or having liberal views, it's just the negative connotation that the right wing has put on it.
Peter, you need to understand that in the last 10-20 years the conservatives in this country has distorted the term Liberal into a negative term. There is nothing wrong with being liberal or having liberal views, it's just the negative connotation that the right wing has put on it.
True! I have noticed how fippantly certain Americans feel the need to label anyone or anything.If you show any liberal attitudes, you're a bleeding heart liberal or even a Commie ect ect.:smiley24:
Liberals created the negative connotation by having views that don't square with the mainstream. In fact, liberals have had control of the media for decades and despite that control still cannot sell socialism to the American people.
Actually, it not about the attitudes its about the manner of accomplishing a goal. Liberals don't like the fact that some people have more than other people so they attempt to equalize by having the government take from the rich and give to the poor--the problem is that ends up hampering the economy--jobs are lost, tax revenue decreases, taxes need to be raised, etc. Communism has been tried--many times--its failed every time. There's a reason for that.
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