Who'd you vote for???

[siasl]

That's because you buy into the liberal media crap about evil America like most of the other drones with no brains. You need to actually look at real history (not an OP ED) and understand both international law and the foundation of the Constitution to understand and grasp my point about soveriegnty.

this just sounds like you can't explain it to me

You're niave if you believe in this notion that the whole world will get along fine with no conflicts if the free nations with economic and military power simply subjugate themselves to the will of the collective world--what a crock of shit. If we did that, half our politicians would be executed or in jail.

i never made this claim....you're naivete is in thinking i did....there must, as you say, be a leader, if the world is actually gonna work towards being a place of freedom and equality.....for the simple reason that it is the nature of those sociopaths () you're going on about elsewhere to feel entitled to curtail freedom for some belief about a "perfect world" , or to dictate its boundaries for the good of some self-righteous cause or another....and that line between control and leadership is always fuzzy, imo.....hell....150 years ago it was imported from prussia and heralded as "brillaint" by many american business and poltical leaders....today we look at the idea of social engineering -particularly as it has been applied to our education system- and wonder what the fuck went wrong.....

what went wrong is that we forgot to trust the soverignty of people, and subjugated them to an ideal.

that line is defined in all its glory and fuzziness by the constitution....but has come to be defined primarily as a function of economic opprotunity...the two are not mutually exclusive, but there's plenty of evidence around that supports the arguement that they're not always on the same page, either.....

so a world leader, in my view, must strike a balance....teddy roosevelt said it best "walk softly and carry a big stick".....
but it runs deeper than that.....now that captialism is finally entering into its full blown, global maturity, the idea of a superpower that leads through a combination of economic and military superiority must either be disgarded, imo, or redefined.....or we, like the soviet union before us, will find ourselves in a war we can't win. (you'll note politics iin russia, for as much as "freedom" has transformed its society, is having a hard time letting go of that superpower paradigm)

old habits -like our reliance on foreign oil- die hard.....and i don't have yet have a direction true american leadership should take in this century.....but i'm certain -because of our constitution, and our unique brand of individualism- that its potential exists.

And yes--of course the most powerful nations are guaranteed soveriegnty because the only way you get it like any freedom is you need to fight for it lest someone else takes it away. But that doesn't mean there are not hundreds of nations out there that enjoy soveriegnty many of them because of US and/or UN military power (the two are actually synonymous for the most part).

indeed they are...for 60 years, there's been potential in there....might be a place to start developing it.

 

[Natasha]

I'm so glad Obama is winning! I really do hope he gets in. Would be a lovely change for the US I think.

Honestly, if Obama had different plans for the troops in Iraq I might have voted for him...but I'm concerned for his safety if he wins. There are a lot of racist hotheads out there and, quite frankly, those kind of people are extremely dangerous.

 

[Anie]

Very true Natasha, I wonder how many people will try to hunt him down if he won.

I couldn't vote since I'm in Canada

 

[Wookiegirl]

good for you :thumbup

they had hour long waits early this morning.

a person i know has a brother who set up one of the polling booths at a precinct and they were lined up in advance.

i voted at 9:30 and there was only a couple minute wait..:thumbup

I voted at like 7:30am and there wasn't a wait at all.
I did my civic duty
now where are my newdz?

 

[Fox Mulder]

I couldn't vote since I'm in Canada

And also because voting requires a person to be mentally competent!!!

:24::24::24:

 

[Anie]

And also because voting requires a person to be mentally competent!!!

:24::24::24:

That declassify's you then

 

[GoldDust Woman]

Hey! Who's stacking the votes in here?! :mad

 

[HottyToddyChick]

I absentee voted last week. My boyfriend went today and stood in line maybe five minutes. He said when he came out though, the line was crazy long. Good timing on his part.

 

[Fox Mulder]

Hey! Who's stacking the votes in here?! :mad

A liberal obviously!

 

[hopscotch]

McCain. Still irritated at the likelihood that *my* vote will be credited to the opposite side due to the California majority and the electoral vote.

(Hey, Panic, hop on over to Yahoo and click YES that you voted and you get your very own digital button for Yahoo. )