Who are more moral? Men or women?

[Greatest I am]

Care to show me some evidence?

I might be bias. Better for you to get your own as you may trust it more.

Google. Pick by whatever criteria you wish.

Regards
DL

 

[Peter Parka]

I might be bias. Better for you to get your own as you may trust it more.

Google. Pick by whatever criteria you wish.

Regards
DL

Surely its down to the person making a statement as fact to back it up with some evidence? If I can easily do it, so can you. I appolagise if it's a stupid question but at least humour me here with the easy proof you claim. :thumbup

 

[Greatest I am]

Hey "Greatest" care to answer that question. If more dark skinned people are in jail then you must consider them morally bad because of their skin color as well.

Bad people are made, not born.

What are whites doing to make blacks and others minorities bad.

One word. Discrimination.

Check the poverty stats.
If we do not give. They will take.

Regards
DL

 

[Greatest I am]

Morals don't just cover things that are illegal though. Alot of things that could be considered amoral are perfectly legal.

Sure.

With laws made by men.

Can we have a few examples of these amoral issues you speak of?

Regards
DL

 

[Greatest I am]

That has nothing to do with the fact that you have questioned whether woman have more morals than men.

Both men and women have the ability of lacking or having the same sense of morals, to portray it any other than that is sexist

Facing true facts is not sexist. It is realistic.

All people have nipples. Realistically, I like them better on women.

Is that sexist or realistic?

Regards
DL

 

[Tuffdisc]

Bad people are made, not born.

What are whites doing to make blacks and others minorities bad.

One word. Discrimination.

Check the poverty stats.
If we do not give. They will take.

Regards
DL

Read this out and you will find that its not because of their gender that they're more moral or immoral. Gender has nothing to do with anything. What you posted to me on that Timothy was nothing but a hierarchy that even baboons, apes and monkeys use...as well as other animals

 

[Niamh]

Sure.

With laws made by men.

Can we have a few examples of these amoral issues you speak of?

Regards
DL

Cheating on your partner, not being a good parent, not paying back a loan from your friend, sleeping with your best friend wife/husband.........

 

[Panacea]

What a load of crap, sorry, I have to disagree with that statement, it is the most silliest thing that you have ever said since you have joined this forum

Most silliest, you say? *adjusts monocle*

She speaks logically and is of course correct, why dont you counter rather than speak like a petulent child

He's not personally seen anything in the bible indicating I'm correct. Welp, guess it's settled!

After we rape you for God.

Regards
DL

Tough crowd!

 

[Tuffdisc]

After we rape you for God.

Regards
DL

What vileness you have uttered, that is simply so untrue, please come up with quotes from the Bible, and I mean true ones, not your opinions, because if you have quite ascertained yet, I won't believe you

 

[porterjack]

if the Christian faith had better "faith" in the moral fibre and integrity of women, perhaps they might actually allow women the priviledge of serving in positions of influence and power within...how many females are considered for papal vacancies, or even bishops..

granted the anglican church has made some minor concessions, but on the whole the ladies take a back seat when it comes to power

 

[savvy]

Bad people are made, not born.

What are whites doing to make blacks and others minorities bad.

One word. Discrimination.

Check the poverty stats.
If we do not give. They will take.

Regards
DL

Covering for your racism. Nice.

 

[Peter Parka]

if the Christian faith had better "faith" in the moral fibre and integrity of women, perhaps they might actually allow women the priviledge of serving in positions of influence and power within...how many females are considered for papal vacancies, or even bishops..

granted the anglican church has made some minor concessions, but on the whole the ladies take a back seat when it comes to power

No, the Bible says that women are below men and are slaves to them, required to do what the man tells them.

 

[zen]

No, the Bible says that women are below men....

I for one appreciate it when I have a women under me.

 

[porterjack]

No, the Bible says that women are below men and are slaves to them, required to do what the man tells them.

no see here is the rub, i dont study the Bible but i suspected that there was some kind of teaching in there that follows that line Peter BUT I was recently educated by Tuffdisc that no such thing is in the Bible so, i guess we are wrong

 

[Peter Parka]

no see here is the rub, i dont study the Bible but i suspected that there was some kind of teaching in there that follows that line Peter BUT I was recently educated by Tuffdisc that no such thing is in the Bible so, i guess we are wrong

I was brought up a fundamental Christian required to read and study the bible for about 10 hours at least a week, not to mention preaching and explaining my beliefs to people, usually a couple of hours a week but sometimes 10. I did this for over quarter of a century before I managed to break free.
Of course you have tuffy, a pretend photographer who has consistantly proved his lack of knowledge of even basic bible scripture.

I can give you proof of what the bible says that backs my point up if you want, I just got tired of bringing the same stuff up for tuffy and the like, time and time again for him to bury their head in the sand and deny facts. I have no problem showing these to you if you are genuinely interested, let me know if you are.:thumbup

 

[porterjack]

I was brought up a fundamental Christian required to read and study the bible for about 10 hours at least a week, not to mention preaching and explaining my beliefs to people, usually a couple of hours a week but sometimes 10. I did this for over quarter of a century before I managed to break free.
Of course you have tuffy, a pretend photographer who has consistantly proved his lack of knowledge of even basic bible scripture.

I can give you proof of what the bible says that backs my point up if you want, I just got tired of bringing the same stuff up for tuffy and the like, time and time again for him to bury their head in the sand and deny facts. I have no problem showing these to you if you are genuinely interested, let me know if you are.:thumbup

i will bear that in mind, but honestly i have to reason to doubt what you say

 

[Tuffdisc]

if the Christian faith had better "faith" in the moral fibre and integrity of women, perhaps they might actually allow women the priviledge of serving in positions of influence and power within...how many females are considered for papal vacancies, or even bishops..

granted the anglican church has made some minor concessions, but on the whole the ladies take a back seat when it comes to power

Perhaps you don't get it that women aren't allowed to be Bishops, what that says about the lack of morals of the Christian church is really nothing, you are just making something out of nothing

 

[satinbutterfly]

What vileness you have uttered, that is simply so untrue, please come up with quotes from the Bible, and I mean true ones, not your opinions, because if you have quite ascertained yet, I won't believe you

1 Corinthians 11:7 - 9* 7 For a man indeed ought not to cover [his] head, forasmuch as he is the image and glory of God: but the woman is the glory of the man.
8 For the man is not of the woman; but the woman of the man.
9 Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man.

1 Corinthians 14:34 - 35* 34. Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but [they are commanded] to be under obedience, as also saith the law.
35 And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.
Ephesians 5:22 - 25* 22 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.
23 For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.
24 Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so [let] the wives [be] to their own husbands in every thing.
25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;
Colossians 3:18 * 18. Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as it is fit in the Lord.

1 Timothy 2:9 - 15* 9. In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array;
10 But (which becometh women professing godliness) with good works.
11 Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.
12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve.
14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.
15 Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.

Genesis 3:16* 16. Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire [shall be] to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.

Shall I keep going?

 

[Tuffdisc]

1 Corinthians 11:7 - 9* 7 For a man indeed ought not to cover [his] head, forasmuch as he is the image and glory of God: but the woman is the glory of the man.
8 For the man is not of the woman; but the woman of the man.
9 Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man.

1 Corinthians 14:34 - 35* 34. Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but [they are commanded] to be under obedience, as also saith the law.
35 And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.
Ephesians 5:22 - 25* 22 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.
23 For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.
24 Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so [let] the wives [be] to their own husbands in every thing.
25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;
Colossians 3:18 * 18. Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as it is fit in the Lord.

1 Timothy 2:9 - 15* 9. In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array;
10 But (which becometh women professing godliness) with good works.
11 Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.
12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve.
14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.
15 Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.

Genesis 3:16* 16. Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire [shall be] to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.

Shall I keep going?

So where does it say that what GIA said? Because all I see from what you have posted is hierarchical because of a symbolical story in Genesis

Colossians 3:18 * 18. Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as it is fit in the Lord. is just another way of saying "Do not commit adultery" is it not?

 

[satinbutterfly]

So where does it say that what GIA said? Because all I see from what you have posted is hierarchical because of a symbolical story in Genesis

Colossians 3:18 * 18. Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as it is fit in the Lord. is just another way of saying "Do not commit adultery" is it not?

You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink. *smh*

Because woman was deceived by the devil and committed the transgression they must submit to man and redeem themselves through the pain childbirth... per the Bible. You're being willfully blind, which is your choice, but it's pretty clear in Timothy.