Where to draw the line?

[Kat]

Between being sexist and being a gentlemen. Also Do you consider a woman sexist because of views she may have on it?

For instance....I feel as though I will do anything expected of me at work. Lifting or whatever (as long as I can lift it) ...but at the same time. If a guy offers, the right way, to do it for me. I will let them. Meaning if they ask to do it for me I will let them. If they tell me they should do it for me/or I shouldnt/cant do it...I wont let them help.

But at the same time if a Guy holds the door/car door open for me. I Like it.

So discuss I guess. If you need any clarification let me know. Or you can base your thoughts on what you think I mean or what your take on it is....

 

[NuckingFuts]

Between being sexist and being a gentlemen. Also Do you consider a woman sexist because of views she may have on it?

For instance....I feel as though I will do anything expected of me at work. Lifting or whatever (as long as I can lift it) ...but at the same time. If a guy offers, the right way, to do it for me. I will let them. Meaning if they ask to do it for me I will let them. If they tell me they should do it for me/or I shouldnt/cant do it...I wont let them help.

But at the same time if a Guy holds the door/car door open for me. I Like it.

So discuss I guess. If you need any clarification let me know. Or you can base your thoughts on what you think I mean or what your take on it is....

I love a wpman who is independent. I also love to do things for women. I feel women can do just about everything a man can. With the excepting of peeing standing up. Yeah Yeah Yeah I know you all can do it too. But it is not near as messy when we do it. Ok back on subject. I see nothing wrong with you way of thinking.

 

[IntruderLS1]

Oh man, I thought for sure you women had some secret method of telling the difference. LOL Guys, ... we're done for!!

I think the difference between sexism and being a gentleman are all in the presentation. (Like you pretty much said)

I always hold doors and offer assistance for heavy lifting jobs. I HATE it when that offends a girl.

Great topic Kat. I'm curious to see how this one unfolds. Mostly from a female point of view.

 

[Elle]

Nothing more boring than a FULL ON gentleman.

 

[GraceAbounds]

Real men are gentlemen imo. They treat woman equal intellectually. They are well mannered and considerate. They have high standards when it comes to proper behavior. They respect women while also protecting or helping them if needed.

My hat is off to all real gentleman.

 

[Elle]

OK, I guess what I mean by "Full On Gentleman" is: a man who is practically there to catch your crumbs while you eat cookies.

Opening doors is nice, but not necessary. I don't need to get flowers or stuff like that, but rather that special occasions be acknowledged in a more creative way.

 

[debbie t]

its more like doing things with respect and courtesy and not doing the same thing and patronising.
a man can do things in either way,one is just good manners and the other is sexism
and women too ..im not forgetting the girls in this

 

[GraceAbounds]

OK, I guess what I mean by "Full On Gentleman" is: a man who is practically there to catch your crumbs while you eat cookies.

That would be a doormat not a gentleman. :24:



heh! Funny Elle!

 

[Ria]

I more or less think the same as you Kat.
I am independant to a point, but at the same time, I like a man to be a gentleman in some things, not everything. He hasn't got to open every single door for me or anything, but just that if I am about to go through the door first, is nice if he will open it for me. Same with the car door thing - mind you, they often start that way then it gets forgotten after a while anyway, so no point if they can't keep doing it LOL and I am just as happy to know from the start that I open my own doors. it is nice if it happens, but not a big deal otherwise.

However, it isn't really an issue either - if it happens great, if not then at least that is something I know is more likely to stay the same throughout LOL.

Lifting is different - some things I can, some not and am never worried about asking a bloke to lift something for me, but no, I wouldn't like to be told either, that I can't as I am a woman....

 

[Elle]

LOL. I need one of those ....SOMEtimes. Just to buy fem stuff at the store and get me whatever I crave late at night.

 

[debbie t]

LOL. I need one of those ....SOMEtimes. Just to buy fem stuff at the store and get me whatever I crave late at night.

lol you should meet my husband , he is the premenstrual womans dream..but he does have two of us here (me and little porphyria)...but that doesnt make him a doormat ,that makes him my hero

 

[Elle]

Too bad my Grandpa died, he used to buy my fem stuff, even after a while when I bought my own house.

 

[Boomer]

I hate it when a woman wont let a man be the man. Baby girl, I know you're capable of lifting that, I know! But Im yer man, and I would be more than happy to do it for you. I know you can open that door girl, but I feel better doing it for you. Why? Cause I love ya. I dont see nothing wrong with that. Thats being a gentleman.

But if the guy is like. Let me pick that up for you, you and I both KNOW you're the weaker sex and you're going to hurt yourself. Or I would let you open the door, but you stupid women always push when you should pull. Now THAT is sexist and should never be tolorated.

 

[GraceAbounds]

I hate it when a woman wont let a man be the man. Baby girl, I know you're capable of lifting that, I know! But Im yer man, and I would be more than happy to do it for you. I know you can open that door girl, but I feel better doing it for you. Why? Cause I love ya. I dont see nothing wrong with that. Thats being a gentleman.

But if the guy is like. Let me pick that up for you, you and I both KNOW you're the weaker sex and you're going to hurt yourself. Or I would let you open the door, but you stupid women always push when you should pull. Now THAT is sexist and should never be tolorated.

:homo:

 

[debbie t]

I hate it when a woman wont let a man be the man. Baby girl, I know you're capable of lifting that, I know! But Im yer man, and I would be more than happy to do it for you. I know you can open that door girl, but I feel better doing it for you. Why? Cause I love ya. I dont see nothing wrong with that. Thats being a gentleman.

But if the guy is like. Let me pick that up for you, you and I both KNOW you're the weaker sex and you're going to hurt yourself. Or I would let you open the door, but you stupid women always push when you should pull. Now THAT is sexist and should never be tolorated.

i too am with the red haired beast...thats what i said but boomer just put into better english...which was quite a moment :24:

 

[Pudding Time]

I'm more inclined to let her pick up the power tools and be the handyman..

 

[Breath]

It's all in the attitude. That goes both ways, from men to women, and vice-versa.

On a business level, I am fine with being treated as an equal. If I get to the door first, I'll open it. I I have to get some stock down from the highest shelf, I'll do it. If it's my turn to bring in the doughnuts, I'll haul them in from the car.

On a personal level, I like a man to treat me "like a woman". Some of those cutesy little chivalrous things are quite endearing. My female mind can't help but to be smitten by a man who bothers to show me extra little attentive things. My last ex was really good at this. He'd often leave me little notes. He'd take my car for oil changes. He'd come get me and drive us home if there was icy weather. He'd bring me chocolate. He'd tell me every day how important I was to him, that he loved me. Too bad we didn't work through another issue. But he was a gentleman as well as a lover.

 

[Elle]

I'm more inclined to let her pick up the power tools and be the handyman..

That's right.

 

[Boomer]

I'm more inclined to let her pick up the power tools and be the handyman..

I thought all women had a powertool.. :dunno

 

[Pudding Time]

That's right.

Well both you and my ex-wife are pretty handy with them thur power tools. Not saying I'm a slouch myself, but you really know what you're doing..

Plus it's hot watching you strut your stuff with a drill