What is the purpose of an everlasting punishment in hell?

[doombug]

Holy crap you edit quickly......but good to see you answered you own question.. (which was originally just the "where did I claim such")
But that was the easy one.

So did you actually have a question? I'm not being obtuse I just don't believe anyone would make such a feeble minded attempt at insullting anyone.[/QUOTE]

This is null now since you edited twice before I could post...now answer the other questions

Even without editing if you can read and understand I said you made a "feeble minded attempt at insulting". I never said I was actually insulted. So that was a FAIL on your part.

 

[doombug]

Enough with the nonsense you have proven you stink at insults. If you have a question in regards to the topic at hand then get on with it.

 

[cam elle toe]

"Hell" is a man made/church concept to frighten the masses into going to church and giving to the collection plate on Sundays.

There is no such thing as either "heaven" or "hell" as a "place" as such....its (in my opinion dont forget) more of a "mind" thing.
eg.. A pious church leader who looks down at those below him, finds himself in "hell" (for him) after death because he ISNT sitting on "The Lords right hand side" when he gets there. He finds he has lessons to learn in humility and charity or whatever and has to come back here to learn again. THATS his "hell". He was wrong all that time.
I find it hard to explain in writing sometimes..
I think there is only one place we go after death.....and how we have lived now and in previous lives determines what "hell or heaven" we find over there

Can you comment on this? Do you believe the Bible is EXACTLY as originally written or do you agree that it has been edited many times over the years?

That's possible... standby for Doombug to ask you to prove your premise.

I've been waiting and waiting for a comment.....but I neglected to phrase my post as a QUESTION, so I was ignored

Holy crap you edit quickly......but good to see you answered you own question.. (which was originally just the "where did I claim such")
But that was the easy one.



Even without editing if you can read and understand I said you made a "feeble minded attempt at insulting". I never said I was actually insulted. So that was a FAIL on your part.

Oh sorry....I should have asked "WHERE did I ATTEMPT to insult you" (and its more insutling to my 7 y.o actually)

Enough with the nonsense you have proven you stink at exchanging insults. If you have a question in regards to the topic at hand then get on with it.

See the many above

And Im going offline for a while....not running away....see if you can answer a question, and make a post without editing after the fact

 

[doombug]

Can you comment on this?

The way I understand it you are referring to the below post in the question above. From what I can tell in the below post you are stating what you think about the concept of hell and how it is used by religion. Are you making the same claim as GIA? No.

"Hell" is a man made/church concept to frighten the masses into going to church and giving to the collection plate on Sundays.

There is no such thing as either "heaven" or "hell" as a "place" as such....its (in my opinion dont forget) more of a "mind" thing.
eg.. A pious church leader who looks down at those below him, finds himself in "hell" (for him) after death because he ISNT sitting on "The Lords right hand side" when he gets there. He finds he has lessons to learn in humility and charity or whatever and has to come back here to learn again. THATS his "hell". He was wrong all that time.
I find it hard to explain in writing sometimes..
I think there is only one place we go after death.....and how we have lived now and in previous lives determines what "hell or heaven" we find over there

Do you believe the Bible is EXACTLY as originally written or do you agree that it has been edited many times over the years?

What does this have to do with anything in this thread?

 

[cam elle toe]

The way I understand it you are referring to the below post in the question above. From what I can tell in the below post you are stating what you think about the concept of hell and how it is used by religion. Are you making the same claim as GIA? No.

Thats your comment? I'm disappointed.




What does this have to do with anything in this thread?[/QUOTE

answer my question and I will tell you.

and well done. You STILL havent answered.
Do you believe the bible is EXACTLY as originally written, or agree it has been edited many times?
Its a simple yes or no answer...give me that, and I shall tell you how it ties in with this thread. Deal?

 

[doombug]

The way I understand it you are referring to the below post in the question above. From what I can tell in the below post you are stating what you think about the concept of hell and how it is used by religion. Are you making the same claim as GIA? No.

Thats your comment? I'm disappointed.




What does this have to do with anything in this thread?[/QUOTE

answer my question and I will tell you.

and well done. You STILL havent answered.
Do you believe the bible is EXACTLY as originally written, or agree it has been edited many times?
Its a simple yes or no answer...give me that, and I shall tell you how it ties in with this thread. Deal?

Nah, it isn't a simple yes or no answer. The term "edited" could mean many things.Don't ask questions and put conditions on how I should answer.That alone is reason not to respond. State you premise and back it up you know the drill. Otherwise I have no reason to respond.

 

[cam elle toe]

Nah, it isn't a simple yes or no answer. The term "edited" could mean many things.Don't ask questions and put conditions on how I should answer.That alone is reason not to respond. State you premise and back it up you know the drill. Otherwise I have no reason to respond.

OK...Just answer then. No limitations

and here is the definition of the word 'edited'...this is the meaning I am referring to. (although I would be curious to see the other meanings you speak of)
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/edited


(waits to see what the next "duck and weave" non answer will be)opcorn2:

 

[doombug]

OK...Just answer then. No limitations

and here is the definition of the word 'edited'...this is the meaning I am referring to. (although I would be curious to see the other meanings you speak of)
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/edited


(waits to see what the next "duck and weave" non answer will be)opcorn2:

This is really quite silly. Everyone knows the bible has been translated into different languages.

FYI: I want to know how GIA came to his conclusion which he refuses to show. Showing where the bible that is in present circulation states hell is for eternal torture of human souls is only one option. If you are trying to discredit the current bible to prove my request invalid you are wasting your time. I want to know how GIA came to his conclusion I don't care what he used.

 

[cam elle toe]

opcorn2:

This is really quite silly. Everyone knows the bible has been translated into different languages.

FYI: I want to know how GIA came to his conclusion which he refuses to show. Showing where the bible that is in present circulation states hell is for eternal torture of human souls is only one option.

I didnt say "translated" i said 'edited'

I aint giving up....did you read my definition of the word "edited" ?(obviously not)

and I aint asking GIA anything...Im asking you to answer the question your still avoiding.

I have heaps of popcornopcorn2:

*hey..I can edit too...answer the question* instead of going back and editing your posts when you cant

 

[doombug]

opcorn2:

I didnt say "translated" i said 'edited'

I aint giving up....did you read my definition of the word "edited" ?(obviously not)

and I aint asking GIA anything...Im asking you to answer the question your still avoiding.

I have heaps of popcornopcorn2:

*hey..I can edit too...answer the question* instead of going back and editing your posts when you cant

It is believed the bible was written over a period of 1500 years with parts being added over that time including the NT so I would say yes the bible has been edited.

Have any more trick questions?

 

[cam elle toe]

opcorn2:

It is believed the bible was written over a period of 1500 years with parts being added over that time including the NT so I would say yes the bible has been edited.

Have any more trick questions?

:24::clap OK. I gotta pay that one. Answer a "trick" question, with a "trick" answer. Well done. Edited as in "adding bits"...you would know all about that.:24:

Now...what about the other meanings of "editing"...you know...the "leaving bits out" and "changing bits"...any comment on that?opcorn2:

 

[doombug]

:24::clap OK. I gotta pay that one. Answer a "trick" question, with a "trick" answer. Well done. Edited as in "adding bits"...you would know all about that.:24:

Now...what about the other meanings of "editing"...you know...the "leaving bits out" and "changing bits"...any comment on that?opcorn2:

What "bits" have been left out? In all seriousness I am interested in what you are trying to get at here.

 

[doombug]

There are two choices here 1)Christian (Christian in Spirit) 2)Troll. There is no other choice.

I have stayed on point but you have tried many times to change the subject. Now you attack the source. Are you so desperate as to stoop to ad hominem attacks? Does it bother you so much when someone disagrees with you that you start making false accusations?

I've asked you several specific questions which you have ignored. I know, "which ones?" I'll let you review the many threads if you want to. It is definitely not worth my time to do so, based on the type of generic, vague, and obtuse response you like to give.

What is this? You are responding to a post I made to Cam Elle Toe. This must be a cowardly tactic to cause confusion! You don't like it when people don't think the same as you.

 

[Minor Axis]

I have stayed on point but you have tried many times to change the subject. Now you attack the source. Are you so desperate as to stoop to ad hominem attacks? Does it bother you so much when someone disagrees with you that you start making false accusations?



What is this? You are responding to a post I made to Cam Elle Toe. This must be a cowardly tactic to cause confusion! You don't like it when people don't think the same as you.

Your typical response to anyone who challenges you.

 

[Greatest I am]

"Hell" is a man made/church concept to frighten the masses into going to church and giving to the collection plate on Sundays.

There is no such thing as either "heaven" or "hell" as a "place" as such....its (in my opinion dont forget) more of a "mind" thing.
eg.. A pious church leader who looks down at those below him, finds himself in "hell" (for him) after death because he ISNT sitting on "The Lords right hand side" when he gets there. He finds he has lessons to learn in humility and charity or whatever and has to come back here to learn again. THATS his "hell". He was wrong all that time.
I find it hard to explain in writing sometimes..
I think there is only one place we go after death.....and how we have lived now and in previous lives determines what "hell or heaven" we find over there

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMxX-QOV9tI

Reverse this tune.

It's all about the money.

Regards
DL

 

[darkcgi]

 

[Minor Axis]

Absolutely...

 

[Tim]

Absolutely...

Yet you continue to feed the troll.

I mean seriously, how many legitimate posts has he made? Can you find the last legitimate post where he makes a valid point or offers up anything of interest?
Hell, I would love to see where he answers a simple direct question...

When are you going to get tired and give up on him? Show me where you have made any progress at all in carrying on an intelligent discussion with him...

 

[Greatest I am]

Yet you continue to feed the troll.

I mean seriously, how many legitimate posts has he made? Can you find the last legitimate post where he makes a valid point or offers up anything of interest?
Hell, I would love to see where he answers a simple direct question...

When are you going to get tired and give up on him? Show me where you have made any progress at all in carrying on an intelligent discussion with him...

I would say that M A is showing social conscience.
No one should enjoy seeing a potentially good human mind lost to fantasy, miracles and magic.
For evil to grow, all good people need do is nothing.
We are all in this together.

Differing view are good but the delivery style of some is like speaking to a bot.

Regards
DL

 

[cam elle toe]

What "bits" have been left out? In all seriousness I am interested in what you are trying to get at here.

Im not going to do your work for you, but if you Google various topics such as "Jesus missing years" The lost books of the Bible" "The Council of Constantinople" "The Nicene Creed" "The Essenes" just for a start, you will find there are tomes written on the subject. You may even find it as fascinating as I do

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMxX-QOV9tI

Reverse this tune.

It's all about the money.

Regards
DL

I think I mentioned the "collection plate"

Yet you continue to feed the troll.

I mean seriously, how many legitimate posts has he made? Can you find the last legitimate post where he makes a valid point or offers up anything of interest?
Hell, I would love to see where he answers a simple direct question...

When are you going to get tired and give up on him? Show me where you have made any progress at all in carrying on an intelligent discussion with him...

Now actually. I was a tad drunk and in an argumentive mood.:ninja