What Is Sharia??

[mazHur]

Sharia

Sharia law comes from a combination of sources including the Qur'an © Sharia is a now a familiar term to Muslims and non-Muslims. It can often be heard in news stories about politics, crime, feminism, terrorism and civilisation.
All aspects of a Muslim's life are governed by Sharia. Sharia law comes from a combination of sources including the Qur'an (the Muslim holy book), the Hadith (sayings and conduct of the prophet Muhammad) and fatwas (the rulings of Islamic scholars).
Many people, including Muslims, misunderstand Sharia. It's often associated with the amputation of limbs, death by stoning, lashes and other medieval punishments. Because of this, it is sometimes thought of as draconian. Some people in the West view Sharia as archaic and unfair social ideas that are imposed upon people who live in Sharia-controlled countires.









http://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/islam/beliefs/sharia_1.shtml

 

[skyblue]

it is draconian.......its brutal and savage

 

[mazHur]

not for you, boy!!

 

[KimmyCharmeleon]

Each culture and religion to their own.

 

[skyblue]

at the end of the day you keep posting these threads,its like you're trying to convince us that the way you live is the right way and the west is wrong.....but in all honesty for all of the wests faults i'd rather have our freedoms over oppression anytime

 

[KimmyCharmeleon]

I think he's just offering a different perspective to the norm. Like I keep saying in other threads, it's good to not be so one-sided.
I think maz is from this type of culture, so I think he knows best about it, and he's trying to correct misperceptions about it, not convince you that you should live under this law.
You don't have to interpret everything he posts as bad, you are allowed to be nice.

 

[mazHur]

at the end of the day you keep posting these threads,its like you're trying to convince us that the way you live is the right way and the west is wrong.....but in all honesty for all of the wests faults i'd rather have our freedoms over oppression anytime

Boy, you are wrong. Nothing there is mine...it's an informative article by BBC
and I thought I would share it with those who are interested in religious discussion.
It would be narrow mindedness to think otherwise...
if you are not interested no need for you to come here...and if you want to protest do it
with BBC London, they wrote it not me!!

 

[mazHur]

I think he's just offering a different perspective to the norm. Like I keep saying in other threads, it's good to not be so one-sided.
I think maz is from this type of culture, so I think he knows best about it, and he's trying to correct misperceptions about it, not convince you that you should live under this law.
You don't have to interpret everything he posts as bad, you are allowed to be nice.

Kimmy, you are soo right
if you recall my my hint to retro on the burqa in Australia thread you will notice that
I told him that he ought to know more about Islam and sharia...and that Sharia was
about Rights and Duties...

I stumbled upon this article and was amazed to note that even I was not knowing
most of the things about Sharia!!

Maybe next time I will switch over to Mormons and their tenets if that may please
some snobs!

 

[mazHur]

Each culture and religion to their own.

very true....
but is there any harm in discussing comparative religions on this religion thread??
I don't want to discuss Christianity as I very well know how some Christians
negatively hold the 'sanctity' of that great religion!

 

[Guyzerr]

I think he's just offering a different perspective to the norm. Like I keep saying in other threads, it's good to not be so one-sided.
I think maz is from this type of culture, so I think he knows best about it, and he's trying to correct misperceptions about it, not convince you that you should live under this law.
You don't have to interpret everything he posts as bad, you are allowed to be nice.

He hasn't offered any personal perspective. All he did was post an article that someone else wrote.

That said I think it's time to get to the bottom of his intentions so to that end I ask...

mazHur.... what is your stand on Sharia?

 

[KimmyCharmeleon]

Kimmy, you are soo right
if you recall my my hint to retro on the burqa in Australia thread you will notice that
I told him that he ought to know more about Islam and sharia...and that Sharia was
about Rights and Duties...

I stumbled upon this article and was amazed to note that even I was not knowing
most of the things about Sharia!!

Maybe next time I will switch over to Mormons and their tenets if that may please
some snobs!

Haha, well I studied Islam in high school during my senior years. I don't think I understood much back then, but tonight I re-read over Sharia Law and I understand it much better now than previously.
You are right, it is about rights and duties and basically - it tells Muslims how to live their life because it's based upon the Qur'an, Hadith, etc...I do not think it goes that far, however, to say that it removes freedom from Muslims.

I think people just get so bitchy about it because of the fact that it's law over there. It's the Islamic beliefs enforced into law. I think Muslims would follow these customs and ways even if it wasn't enforced by law.
But it's funny because in the West, aren't Christian beliefs enforced into law? We cannot commit adultery, theft, etc. So basically, both Islam and Christianity are enforced into law. Just in different places...

I haven't heard much about harsh punishments. I've heard about amputating hands and stoning people in the ground, but that's about it.
Of course they seem harsh to Westerners, but that's because Westerners haven't lived in that culture before. People have to understand that if we had grown up in that culture, and assimilated to it, we would think it's the norm. But we don't because we haven't grown up in that culture.

So to call it draconian is probably a matter of opinion.

 

[KimmyCharmeleon]

He hasn't offered any personal perspective. All he did was post an article that someone else wrote.

That said I think it's time to get to the bottom of his intentions so to that end I ask...

mazHur.... what is your stand on Sharia?

He doesn't HAVE to post his personal perspective.

As I have said in another thread, he posts these things because they are interesting, not to turn everything into a friggen debate like so many people do on this forum. Then when maz doesn't debate back, people call him stupid and wussy and that he "can't debate properly".

If he wants to add his opinion, he will when he decides to and does so.

 

[porterjack]

not for you, boy!!

referring to skyblue as boy is not construcxtive nor polite, even if English is not your fist language it should be obvious that he is a mature man and thay calling him boy is inappropriate and franfly unnecessary

 

[mazHur]

He hasn't offered any personal perspective. All he did was post an article that someone else wrote.

That said I think it's time to get to the bottom of his intentions so to that end I ask...

mazHur.... what is your stand on Sharia?

Exactly same as Kimmy's!!

 

[mazHur]

referring to skyblue as boy is not construcxtive nor polite, even if English is not your fist language it should be obvious that he is a mature man and thay calling him boy is inappropriate and franfly unnecessary

sorry , my bad, I thought addressing someone as a boy when
he acts like a boy was a matter of esteem for
the addressee!

 

[KimmyCharmeleon]

referring to skyblue as boy is not construcxtive nor polite, even if English is not your fist language it should be obvious that he is a mature man and thay calling him boy is inappropriate and franfly unnecessary

I don't think he means 'boy' as in he is a little boy. I don't think the aim of that was to insult him. At least that's the way I took it... =/

 

[mazHur]

Haha, well I studied Islam in high school during my senior years. I don't think I understood much back then, but tonight I re-read over Sharia Law and I understand it much better now than previously.
You are right, it is about rights and duties and basically - it tells Muslims how to live their life because it's based upon the Qur'an, Hadith, etc...I do not think it goes that far, however, to say that it removes freedom from Muslims.

I think people just get so bitchy about it because of the fact that it's law over there. It's the Islamic beliefs enforced into law. I think Muslims would follow these customs and ways even if it wasn't enforced by law.
But it's funny because in the West, aren't Christian beliefs enforced into law? We cannot commit adultery, theft, etc. So basically, both Islam and Christianity are enforced into law. Just in different places...

I haven't heard much about harsh punishments. I've heard about amputating hands and stoning people in the ground, but that's about it.
Of course they seem harsh to Westerners, but that's because Westerners haven't lived in that culture before. People have to understand that if we had grown up in that culture, and assimilated to it, we would think it's the norm. But we don't because we haven't grown up in that culture.

So to call it draconian is probably a matter of opinion.

If you've read you will recall the British ruled India for more than a century quitting it
in 1947. If people read their impressions about a muti-cultural , multi-religious and
multi-lingual region like India they would come to realize how amazing it is to
live among people there...!!

For one I may recommend those interested in serious topics to read 'Tales from the Raj '
which provides frank observations and comments
of the British about people they ruled.

 

[Guyzerr]

He doesn't HAVE to post his personal perspective.

As I have said in another thread, he posts these things because they are interesting, not to turn everything into a friggen debate like so many people do on this forum. Then when maz doesn't debate back, people call him stupid and wussy and that he "can't debate properly".

If he wants to add his opinion, he will when he decides to and does so.

Take a look at the title of this section. Doesn't it say " Philosophy & Debate "? He's acting like any other troll would by not posting his take on the matter especially when the question has been thrown at him. It's a controversial subject in the free world unsupported by anyone with 1/2 a brain and he knows it.

 

[KimmyCharmeleon]

Take a look at the title of this section. Doesn't it say " Philosophy & Debate "? He's acting like any other troll would by not posting his take on the matter especially when the question has been thrown at him

It's philosophy and debate. It could be EITHER philosophy, OR debate, or, it could be both If you want to get specific, it's actually Religion

He still doesn't have to post his opinion. He has a choice in the matter. Why? Because it's a free world (just like you said actually)...

It's a controversial subject in the free world unsupported by anyone with 1/2 a brain and he knows it.

Is this in reference to Sharia Law? If so, why don't you prove it?

 

[Guyzerr]

It's philosophy and debate. It could be EITHER philosophy, OR debate, or, it could be both If you want to get specific, it's actually Religion

He still doesn't have to post his opinion. He has a choice in the matter. Why? Because it's a free world (just like you said actually)...

First of all there is no " OR " in the title. Secondly, religion is a very controversial subject and one shouldn't start a thread unless he's prepared to speak his piece. If one does start a thread without making his position clear then he's just another fucking troll.

Secondly, what's the point in a discussion forum if one isn't prepared to discuss a subject they post about. What a boring place this would be if all people did was post an article and moved on. Matter of fact it is quite boring when people speak for others if you know what I mean.

Is this in reference to Sharia Law? If so, why don't you prove it?

I as well as others in the free world have proven it by posting our response. By mazHur avoiding the issue he has spoken his piece as well. It takes a hell of a lot of guts to post positive outlooks on such a controversial subject.