US Soldier Throws Puppy Off Cliff.....how can people like this be allowed to live

[All Else Failed]

Fake? I'll put money on the fact that it's real. Actually the military is investigating the incident which they believe happened in Hawaii.
Make no mistake boys and girls, just because it's shocking to most people, doesn't mean it doesn't happen.... shit like this happens all the time, there are some very cruel people out there... but usually they are smart enough to not record it...

Looked like a doll to me


the small microphone on that camera wouldn't be able to pick up the dog's scream from that distance


the sound of the dog's yelp wouldn't sound that way if it was tumbling in that direction. I work with sound.

 

[Peter Parka]

totally fake.

I will also point out that we eat cows, pigs and chickens everyday. Getting upset about the death of one dog is pretty silly.

Do we kill pigs, cows and chickens by chucking them off cliffs though and was this dog being killed for food?

 

[gLing]

totally fake.

I will also point out that we eat cows, pigs and chickens everyday. Getting upset about the death of one dog is pretty silly.

But we do not eat puppies in this nation and even with animals we do eat there are animal cruelty laws that protect them.

 

[SRC]

totally fake.

I will also point out that we eat cows, pigs and chickens everyday. Getting upset about the death of one dog is pretty silly.

We also have humane ways of killing and treating those animals produced for food items. When they aren't treated ethically .. the people responsible are fined heavily, and sometimes jailed.

People who torture animals, only start there. Once they get bored with that, they tend to move up the food chain a bit .. to humans.

That's how most serial killers get started, torturing animals.

 

[gLing]

We also have humane ways of killing and treating those animals produced for food items. When they aren't treated ethically .. the people responsible are fined heavily, and sometimes jailed.

That massive beef recall we had recently was related to just such a situation.

 

[All Else Failed]

Do we kill pigs, cows and chickens by chucking them off cliffs though and was this dog being killed for food?

So if the dog was eaten after they dropped it off the cliff it would be ok?





Actually, if anything, this dog was more humanely killed than most animals raised for food.

 

[SRC]

Actually, if anything, this dog was more humanely killed than most animals raised for food.

what? :24: .. yes .. because a bullet to the brain hurts way more than watching as you get kicked, fly throough the air, land with a thud on the ground .. possibly not killing you instantly, and then bleeding to death slowly from internal bleeding.

lol riiiight

 

[Peter Parka]

So if the dog was eaten after they dropped it off the cliff it would be ok?

No, because killing animals for food in that way is unnecessarily cruel and lets face it, not very practical. Dosen't make sense to kill an animal for food when you have to clamber down a big cliff to retrieve it only to find most of the meat is splattered everywhere, is a long time retrieving and probably got germs.

Actually, if anything, this dog was more humanely killed than most animals raised for food.

Not the animals I eat, no!

 

[SRC]

I imagine our food would taste disgusting if killed in such a manner. That type death would lead to extreme amounts of adrenaline pumped into the blood stream .. which usually makes food taste weird/gross.

I love deer meat, but when it's not a clean kill and the deer bolts off and the hunter has to chase it down .. the resulting meat usually tastes really "off".

 

[Tim]

Call me crazy... but I don't understand how people can't see a big difference between a slaughter house and throwing a puppy off a cliff for entertainment.

:dunno

 

[All Else Failed]

what? :24: .. yes .. because a bullet to the brain hurts way more than watching as you get kicked, fly throough the air, land with a thud on the ground .. possibly not killing you instantly, and then bleeding to death slowly from internal bleeding.

lol riiiight

Cows wallow in their own shit for months, have their throats slit when alive to bleed out in most cases and are often skinned alive.

Chickens even have it worse.


So this dog having a quick death is nothing compared to the conditions food animakls have to put up with and the ways they are killed in.

 

[All Else Failed]

this is much better than being thrown off a cliff!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ef6hTW1i8jQ

 

[debbie t]

this is much better than being thrown off a cliff!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ef6hTW1i8jQ

that is illegal here and would have the place closed down and prison sentences handed out here.
cattle here have to be stunned and unconscious before slaughter and a vet is always supervising.
:mad

 

[Maulds]

I won't watch that vid but I agree with him (don't get used to it pal). Animals slaughtered and processed for food suffer much more greatly. That in no way justifies any violence or harm to that puppy or any other animal, but if we're arguing which is worse. Put it this way...how would you rather die...fall from a cliff or what you see in the AEF's vid?

 

[Peter Parka]

Oh God, here we go, point out the most extreme cases and forget the large amount of animals in our civilized societies that get slaughtered humanely!:smiley24:

Of course shit like that is wrong, I don't eat meat slaughtered that way and I dont approve of dogs being thrown off cliffs! AEF, do you actually have a point here or are you just trying to provoke a debate by being contreversial?

 

[debbie t]

he can be a little mischievous bugger ,but i see his point here


and ive found a song to dedicate to AEF now

 

[Tim]

he can be a little mischievous bugger ,but i see his point here


and ive found a song to dedicate to AEF now

Actually there is no legitimate point being made here....

It would be the same as saying...
Is it really that bad that the soldier threw a baby off the cliff... I mean we are doing much worst to the people in Iraq... Here, let me show you a video of babies burned up by our bombs...

Two wrongs don't make it right.

 

[debbie t]

Actually there is no legitimate point being made here....

It would be the same as saying...
Is it really that bad that the soldier threw a baby off the cliff... I mean we are doing much worst to the people in Iraq... Here, let me show you a video of babies burned up by our bombs...

Two wrongs don't make it right.

no they dont but i saw this as AEF answering SRCs comment on animal slaughter.
this is like the thread where some of us tried to explain the difference between hunting for food and sport which i see as a similar thing to this...the idea of human beings finding hunting to watch and cause cruelty ie fox hunting here,as entertainment

 

[All Else Failed]

Oh God, here we go, point out the most extreme cases and forget the large amount of animals in our civilized societies that get slaughtered humanely!:smiley24:

Of course shit like that is wrong, I don't eat meat slaughtered that way and I dont approve of dogs being thrown off cliffs! AEF, do you actually have a point here or are you just trying to provoke a debate by being contreversial?

I'm have people in my family that work in slaughter houses, thats how its done every day, and its not much different overseas.

 

[All Else Failed]

Actually there is no legitimate point being made here....

It would be the same as saying...
Is it really that bad that the soldier threw a baby off the cliff... I mean we are doing much worst to the people in Iraq... Here, let me show you a video of babies burned up by our bombs...

Two wrongs don't make it right.

I don't think its right, but to bitch and moan over something like this to me is a bit silly when people will be just fine with something much worse (like the things that go on in slaughter houses).