Thoughts on Declawing cats

[BleedingBull]

Did you have your cat spayed (fixed)? Because I don't see how that's anymore inhumane than having them declawed. Both are surgical procedures done under anesthesia

Having a cat/pet desexed prevents certain cancers and it helps keep the overflowing rescues, down there is to many unwanted litters to even compare that procedure to one that has no positive benefit for the pet at all just the furniture, thats not a reason to inflict that on a pet, what happens if its rehomed again and has a life outdoors unable to defend itself or climb out of harms way, not to mention the natural reasons it needs claws to as well, its like not having fingernails or a grip anymore. Inhumane and another example of humans putting our needs before an animals. Imo <<

 

[Keight]

you cat loves your couch actually
but you can train it
but it will take a lot of work
you have to be very forceful more than most people want to do
because cats have huge egos and they are stubbern and bull headed when it comes to telling them do something
you either have to force them to stop or trick them or use electronic shock stuff
If I wanted to keep the cat and it kept doing that I would pop it on the head and shortly after pet it
the skull will resist the most damage and you cannot spank a kat the body is just not designed in a way to allow that
dont be scared to pop it on the head hard cause some cats are really stubborn but make sure you pet and be nice to the cat right afterwards
because if you dont the cat will be skiddish and run away and stuff and wait till you are gone to destroy
like a kid I say wait 5 minutes after a smack not 3 sec
3 secs will confuse the cat im getting hit on the head and then hug wtf
there are sprays that the cats cant stand to smell and will stay away from that you can spray on your furniture
there are also plastic gards you can screw onto your couch
I like cats but there is a huge difference between cats and dogs

THanks thats worth a try

I've never liked getting a cat declawed on the primary basis that if the manage to get out of the house, they have little viable ways of protecting themselves. Granted it does suck to see hard earned cash go down the drain...like dark said training will be a pain, but ultimately worth it. As for the humanity of declawing, as a cat gets older some procedures become less possible (and therefore less humane) so depending on how old the cat is your options may be limited.

She is a year and a half she was only recently desexed too and it cost me a fair bit.

Did you have your cat spayed (fixed)? Because I don't see how that's anymore inhumane than having them declawed. Both are surgical procedures done under anesthesia

Yep sure did, main reason being the wildlife around here most of it is protected, cats must be desexed if not for breeding purposes. too many wild cats killing off our fauna.

 

[Keight]

Having a cat/pet desexed prevents certain cancers and it helps keep the overflowing rescues, down there is to many unwanted litters to even compare that procedure to one that has no positive benefit for the pet at all just the furniture, thats not a reason to inflict that on a pet, what happens if its rehomed again and has a life outdoors unable to defend itself or climb out of harms way, not to mention the natural reasons it needs claws to as well, its like not having fingernails or a grip anymore. Inhumane and another example of humans putting our needs before an animals. Imo <<

Oh dont get me wrong, I understand it may be inhumane and as much as i love my cat i wouldnt think twice before putting my life or that of my childrens before her. Shes a cat.... end of lol Guess thats the way i see it too

 

[BleedingBull]

Oh dont get me wrong, I understand it may be inhumane and as much as i love my cat i wouldnt think twice before putting my life or that of my childrens before her. Shes a cat.... end of lol Guess thats the way i see it too

lol no I'd put my kids or my life before a cats, which is why I'd opt for rehoming or a cat tree for it to scratch on or a water spray to wet it, etc just would never declaw it for reasons already said

 

[Skorpy]

Cats are pests full stop.

And imo should be treated as dogs, especially to stop them shitting in gardens.
I am sick of other peoples pets using my newly done out garden as a shit pit. They should be kept in and taken for walks on a leesh like dogs.

 

[Abcinthia]

I've had 3 house cats and 2 outside cats and they have never had to be declawed (though even if we wanted to it's considered humane in the UK and no vet would do it apart from medical reasons). My cats scratched at furniture so we moved the furniture around and put the cat scratch posts where they scratched.

If they won't use the cat scratch post, attatch toys to it. Cats go mental for dangling toys and will start digging their claws in to catch the toy. Put cat nip treats on it. If the cat keeps going back to the old spot, move her to the post.

Also look at WHY the cat is scratching. Exercise? Boredom? Territorial? Pleasure?

Cats can be trained (I managed to train one of my cats to open doors by jumping up at the handle, putting her weight on it and letting the handle fall down) but it takes a lot of patience and time. If it's an indoor cat then surely it uses a litter tray? That is not natural cat behaviour so somewhere along the lines, you've taught it to do that or it was taught how to do that by previous owners?

 

[Zorak]

Did you have your cat spayed (fixed)? Because I don't see how that's anymore inhumane than having them declawed. Both are surgical procedures done under anesthesia

That's how you judge what is considered humane? Not sure I follow that tbh.

Personally, I'd never declaw a cat. It's cruel and unfair, and excuse me here, typically modern thinking: I want this pet but I don't want these parts of owning it...

 

[Rachie]

Our cat was already de -clawed in the front when we got her, but she's an indoor cat. I don't think it's inhumane.

 

[Tim]

So I guess it's more humane to boot your cat to the curb because it decides one day to ruin your furniture...

And don't think for one second you're only looking after the well being of the cat when you have them spayed and neutered. It's for our convenience, not the cats.

If you really cared about your pets, you wouldn't own them in the first place. Owning a pet is a selfish endeavor.

 

[Leah Love]

Have you tried clipping the cat's claws? I fostered a cat for about 3 months. The first thing I did when I got her, well after giving her a good soak in the bathtub, was clipping her nails.
Granted, it is not a guarantee that the cat won't scratch the furniture, but it decreases the amount of damage it can make. Also you can never, NEVER have enough scratching posts. Make sure you show the cat how to use it too. Take it's paws and make her scratch the posts so her scent gets on it. Because if you don't how else would she know that she CAN use that piece of furniture and not the sofa.
Hope I helped a little and good luck with keeping your furniture safe.

 

[darkcgi]

most cats have a complex after the declawing

 

[Tim]

most cats have a complex after the declawing

And you don't think they do after you cut their balls off? :24:

 

[darkcgi]

no lol I'm sure they do hahaha
I'm having one just thinking about it
should have video taped me and my friend when we took his horse to get them cut
we had that look and stance like we are about to get ran over by a mac truck
skwinty eyes and tucked head and arms up and folded like a chickin
every time I heard the clippers clip through something it was a loud snipping sound
my toes are currling thinking about it

 

[hart]

So I guess it's more humane to boot your cat to the curb because it decides one day to ruin your furniture...

And don't think for one second you're only looking after the well being of the cat when you have them spayed and neutered. It's for our convenience, not the cats.

If you really cared about your pets, you wouldn't own them in the first place. Owning a pet is a selfish endeavor.

Boy have I rarely disagreed with anyone more. What a crock of sh*t. As others have said, the cat and dog population is out of control. Dogs and cats are starving, dying young and diseased because we people have domesticated. Just what the h*ll is your solution Tim. Take all the animals out into the woods and shoot them? We domesticated them not the other way around and as such they are not equiped to live in the world as it exists today. Do you really think if we stopped having them as pets people would just leave them alone and they would be happy? Bullshit. People would hunt them down and eradicate them. Much better a life.

As I said. I am an animal nut so this is a hot button for me, and I usually agree with the majority of your opinions on things Tim. But boy are you off your rocker here!!!!

 

[Tim]

You are missing my point.

You can't sit there and say that spaying and neutering your pet is fine and dandy and in the same sentence say that declawing your cat is inhumane.
If you can't see that because cats can be declawed it has kept millions from being thrown in the street, then I don't know what to say.
You say it's cruel... how so? It isn't painful. It's not like they use a pair of pliers and just yank them out.
And if you have never had a cat that is declawed, then you are only basing your thoughts on your jaded feelings.

 

[hart]

Yes spaying and neutering pets IS FINE. Because there are too many that need homes and will be killed because of overcrowding. So love the pet you have until it dies then get another pet to love and become your family. THIS SAVES PETS. Do not get a kitten, let them breed indiscriminately and have some folks get those kittens until they grow and to some are no longer cute and continue the cycle. Animal control is necessary. It's a fact of life. Declawing is NOT.

Look. If someone tells me they are going to declaw a cat and they absolutely guarantee that cat will never go outside and possible have to fend for themselves. I still won't like it, but I would keep my peace. But I have seen many people do this and OH BIG SURPRISE, they were killed outside when the animal couldn't get up a tree or fend for themselves. If they our going to ever be outside DON"T DECLAW. And I still saying breaking their toes is not the same as taking out their sex organs to basically save other animals.

Obviously you are not a pet lover and obviously I cannot be unemotional about this topic so I'm going to step away now. But if you were face to face and a friend I'd probably be shaking you. (I don't do that to those I don't like I don't engage them).

 

[Niamh]

It sounds awful to me :/

 

[HK]

Mittens for your kittens?

 

[Pumpkin]

I've never heard of it. But I suppose if the cat is an indoor cat and the procedure is done by a professional etc its no different to getting a neutered...

 

[Abcinthia]

I've never heard of it. But I suppose if the cat is an indoor cat and the procedure is done by a professional etc its no different to getting a neutered...

It's heavily restricted in a lot of countries because it is viewed as being unethical and cruelty to the animal.

Under EU law, it can only be done for "veterinary medical reasons or for the benefit of any particular animal." Some countries (like the UK) go even further, banning it completely apart from medical reasons and not for the convenience of the owners.