"Thou shalt not kill?!"

[All Else Failed]

I don't know if you're grasping the power of time. If you exist outside of time, then you will have no beginning, and no end. It gets deep, and I've stopped trying to understand it myself. I studied quantum for about two years on and off, but it's still a science in its infancy. Things change, and the math is frankly over my head.

I don't claim to know He exists outside of space time. I just know that fits all of the observable facts. There is a great deal of faith involved, but the physical universe offers quite the light show of circumstantial evidence to help weak people like me.

You're not weak. Don't ever tell yourself that.


I've studied quantum quite a bit as well, I love the stuff, I must have half a dozen books on it or so. I'm not interested in getting into a debate about it here, but let me just say, that time doesn't have to be applied for something to "exist". So just because something exist "outside" of time doesn't take away its EXISTING nature.

 

[IntruderLS1]

You're not weak. Don't ever tell yourself that.


I've studied quantum quite a bit as well, I love the stuff, I must have half a dozen books on it or so. I'm not interested in getting into a debate about it here, but let me just say, that time doesn't have to be applied for something to "exist". So just because something exist "outside" of time doesn't take away its EXISTING nature.

Which is the great thing about the Creator.

Physical matter can not exist outside of time though. That part I seem to remember pretty well.

 

[All Else Failed]

Which is the great thing about the Creator.

Physical matter can not exist outside of time though. That part I seem to remember pretty well.

Existence isn't defined by matter, though.

 

[IntruderLS1]

Existence isn't defined by matter, though.

Which is the great thing about the Creator!!

The physical universe IS defined by matter though.

 

[GraceAbounds]

I don't know if you're grasping the power of time. If you exist outside of time, then you will have no beginning, and no end. It gets deep, and I've stopped trying to understand it myself. I studied quantum for about two years on and off, but it's still a science in its infancy. Things change, and the math is frankly over my head.

I don't claim to know He exists outside of space time. I just know that fits all of the observable facts. There is a great deal of faith involved, but the physical universe offers quite the light show of circumstantial evidence to help weak people like me.

All things are relative. People tend to have some colorful views on your general outlook on life and society, but you sure get testy if somebody calls you absurd.

What makes perfect, clear, concise sense to you is absurd to others. ... (haha no unintentional burn intended.) (ooohhhhhh... x2!!)

:clap :clap

Which is the great thing about the Creator!!

The physical universe IS defined by matter though.

Amazing stuff, truly amazing stuff.

Great posts Scott.

 

[All Else Failed]

Which is the great thing about the Creator!!

The physical universe IS defined by matter though.

So where did you learn or hear about him existing outside of time and space? because really, you have no idea that he does, and someone just sort of thought it up one day threw that out there.

 

[IntruderLS1]

I don't know that I've heard it anywhere. It simply makes the most sense to me.

I've been a science kid for longer than I've been a history guy. My dad is an astronomer, so I blame him.

Looking at the universe, this just seems like the best plausible, logical explanation.

 

[All Else Failed]

So its just more of a "personal belief" then.