Peter Parka
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I find it very sad that in an enlightened country like the USA, the colour of Obama's skin sees to be an issue.
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I find it very sad that in an enlightened country like the USA, the colour of Obama's skin sees to be an issue.
Too true...
I find it very sad that in an enlightened country like the USA, the colour of Obama's skin sees to be an issue.
Very true Pete. I also hate how people discover his middle name is Hussein and hate him for that. Also I hate how people think he is a Muslim. People are so uninformed today.
Why the fuck does that matter?
It's every bit as wrong if he gets voted in because he's black as if he's not.
I agree with you on that point.
Also I think if the Dems don't get their shit together, McCain is just gonna have to fart on election day and he'll be able to win. The Dems are shooting themselves in the foot like usual.
Godsloveapples
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No I ment that people shouldn't not vote for him because he's black, like if he's good, people should not care about skin color and just vote for him.
Why so jw?
Really??? wow.
Peter Parka
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Looking good for Obama!
N Carolina poll win boosts Obama
Barack Obama's North Carolina victory speech
Barack Obama has scored a clear win in the Democratic presidential primary in North Carolina, while Hillary Clinton has narrowly won the Indiana primary.
Senator Obama won 56% of the vote in North Carolina, while Senator Clinton won 51% of the vote in Indiana.
Both votes were the final major Democratic primaries which help decide the party's White House candidate.
Neither scored a knock-out blow, but analysts say Mr Obama's lead looks increasingly unassailable.
Mr Obama is leading the race in delegates who will chose the presidential nominee by 1,840 to 1,684, according to the Associated Press news agency.
Campaign controversy
Speaking to a raucous rally in Raleigh, North Carolina, Mr Obama said: "Tonight we stand less than 200 delegates away from securing the Democratic nomination for president of the United States."
Analysts said Mr Obama's win was vital after a recent difficult campaign stretch.
He has been dogged by controversy over his gaffe that small-town residents were "bitter", and racially charged comments by his former pastor, Reverend Jeremiah Wright.
A win in Indiana was seen as critical for Mrs Clinton to stay in the race to stand against Republican John McCain in November's presidential vote.
At her election gathering in the Indiana state capital, Indianapolis, she told cheering supporters it was "full speed on to the White House".
But despite her defiant words, Mrs Clinton seems to have lost some of her trademark fighting spirit, says BBC Washington correspondent Jonathan Beale.
The rivals, courting voters suffering from an ailing economy, spent recent days sparring over Mrs Clinton's proposal to suspend the federal petrol tax for the summer.
Race split
Mid-western Indiana is home to large numbers of blue-collar workers, a bloc which has backed Mrs Clinton in previous contests.
According to exit polls conducted for AP, about two-thirds of white voters in both states who had not completed a college education supported Mrs Clinton.
Hillary Clinton says it is full speed on to the White House
In North Carolina, Mr Obama won the backing of 90% of the state's African-American voters, who make up more than a third of the state's electorate.
Mrs Clinton won 58% of non-black voters in the state, according to the polls.
There are just six state primary contests left: West Virginia, Oregon, Kentucky, Puerto Rico, Montana and South Dakota.
Because the race is so tight, nearly 800 super-delegates - senior party members - will have the final say at the party convention in August.
Many super-delegates says they will vote for the candidate chosen in the primary of their home state.
The Republicans also held primaries in Indiana and North Carolina on Tuesday, but the votes were largely symbolic as Senator McCain has effectively secured the nomination.
Story from BBC NEWS:
N Carolina poll win boosts Obama
Barack Obama's North Carolina victory speech
Barack Obama has scored a clear win in the Democratic presidential primary in North Carolina, while Hillary Clinton has narrowly won the Indiana primary.
Senator Obama won 56% of the vote in North Carolina, while Senator Clinton won 51% of the vote in Indiana.
Both votes were the final major Democratic primaries which help decide the party's White House candidate.
Neither scored a knock-out blow, but analysts say Mr Obama's lead looks increasingly unassailable.
Mr Obama is leading the race in delegates who will chose the presidential nominee by 1,840 to 1,684, according to the Associated Press news agency.
Campaign controversy
Speaking to a raucous rally in Raleigh, North Carolina, Mr Obama said: "Tonight we stand less than 200 delegates away from securing the Democratic nomination for president of the United States."
Analysts said Mr Obama's win was vital after a recent difficult campaign stretch.
He has been dogged by controversy over his gaffe that small-town residents were "bitter", and racially charged comments by his former pastor, Reverend Jeremiah Wright.
A win in Indiana was seen as critical for Mrs Clinton to stay in the race to stand against Republican John McCain in November's presidential vote.
At her election gathering in the Indiana state capital, Indianapolis, she told cheering supporters it was "full speed on to the White House".
But despite her defiant words, Mrs Clinton seems to have lost some of her trademark fighting spirit, says BBC Washington correspondent Jonathan Beale.
The rivals, courting voters suffering from an ailing economy, spent recent days sparring over Mrs Clinton's proposal to suspend the federal petrol tax for the summer.
Race split
Mid-western Indiana is home to large numbers of blue-collar workers, a bloc which has backed Mrs Clinton in previous contests.
According to exit polls conducted for AP, about two-thirds of white voters in both states who had not completed a college education supported Mrs Clinton.
Hillary Clinton says it is full speed on to the White House
In North Carolina, Mr Obama won the backing of 90% of the state's African-American voters, who make up more than a third of the state's electorate.
Mrs Clinton won 58% of non-black voters in the state, according to the polls.
There are just six state primary contests left: West Virginia, Oregon, Kentucky, Puerto Rico, Montana and South Dakota.
Because the race is so tight, nearly 800 super-delegates - senior party members - will have the final say at the party convention in August.
Many super-delegates says they will vote for the candidate chosen in the primary of their home state.
The Republicans also held primaries in Indiana and North Carolina on Tuesday, but the votes were largely symbolic as Senator McCain has effectively secured the nomination.
Story from BBC NEWS:
Peter Parka
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Isn't that kind of like drinking de-caf coffee or non alcoholic beer? Pointless?
Edwards endorses Obama in US race
John Edwards praises Barack Obama at a rally in Michigan
The former US Democratic presidential contender, John Edwards, has endorsed Barack Obama's bid for the White House.
Speaking alongside the senator at a rally in Michigan, Mr Edwards said Mr Obama was the one man who could make the lasting change that America needed.
John Edwards dropped out of the presidential race in January.
Correspondents say his endorsement will damage Mr Obama's rival, Senator Hillary Clinton, despite her victory in the West Virginia primary on Tuesday.
'Bold leadership'
"The Democratic voters in America have made their choice and so have I," John Edwards told a crowd of cheering supporters in Grand Rapids, Michigan.
"There is one man who knows and understands that this is a time for bold leadership...there is one man who knows in his heart that it is time to create one America, not two - and that man is Barack Obama."
Mr Edwards spoke about the need to help the poor and provide better health care, and announced that Senator Obama had backed his new anti-poverty initiative, which aims to reduce poverty in the United States by half within 10 years. Earlier in the speech he paid tribute to Hillary Clinton's tenacity, strength and determination, and said she cared deeply about the working people of America.
Correspondents say the timing of the announcement is significant, on a day when Hillary Clinton has been celebrating a big win in West Virginia which was largely down to her support among poorer white voters - a constituency with which John Edwards is most closely identified.
'Far from over'
Both Senators Obama and Clinton had been heavily courting Mr Edward's endorsement, as soon as he had stood down from the race in January.
But as news of the announcement broke, Senator Clinton's campaign team dismissed its significance.
"We respect John Edwards, but as the voters of West Virginia showed last night, this thing is far from over," Clinton's campaign chairman, Terry McAuliffe, said in a statement.
So far in the battle for the Democratic presidential nomination, Mr Obama has won more of the delegates who will choose the party's nominee at the Democratic National Convention this summer.
He has also raised more money than Mrs Clinton.
The Clinton campaign has been hoping that she could pick up more endorsements than Mr Obama from the so-called "super-delegates", who get an automatic vote at the convention by virtue of holding a senior position in the party.
The BBC's Justin Webb says that with Mr Edwards's high-profile endorsement, Mrs Clinton's already difficult case has just become even trickier to make.
According to a tally by the Associated Press, Barack Obama has a total of 1,887 delegates, leaving him just 139 delegates short of the 2,026 needed to clinch the nomination, while Hillary Clinton has 1,718 delegates.
Story from BBC NEWS:
As it stands right now, I'll be voting for McCain as the lesser of 3 evils. Personally, Hillary is the epitome of evil and I would seriously have to consider moving out of the country if she becomes President. Obama, I don't know enough about his platform to be able to form a good opinion on him. My mother says he scares her but she can't quite put her finger on why. Some of the things he says I can get on board with but then other times he leaves me shaking my head as he fumbles through trying to find an excuse for the latest scandal. I also find it hard to get behind a candidate for PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES whose representative says "sometimes he does, sometimes he doesn't" in response to questions as to why he doesn't put his hand over his heart during the Pledge of Allegiance.
Of the 3 candidates, McCain is the only one that supports us staying in Iraq. Regardless of the economy, I don't think that our job is quite done over there yet. Regardless of what Hillary and Obama promise, it's not as simple as "hey, the President says we're pulling out" and boom all the troops are back home from Iraq. I think pulling out of Iraq too soon sends a message that you can attack us on our soil and get away w/ it...that's not a message I want us to send!!!
So my current position is McCain first, Obama second, every conceivable person I can write in third, and then Hillary.
Of the 3 candidates, McCain is the only one that supports us staying in Iraq. Regardless of the economy, I don't think that our job is quite done over there yet. Regardless of what Hillary and Obama promise, it's not as simple as "hey, the President says we're pulling out" and boom all the troops are back home from Iraq. I think pulling out of Iraq too soon sends a message that you can attack us on our soil and get away w/ it...that's not a message I want us to send!!!
So my current position is McCain first, Obama second, every conceivable person I can write in third, and then Hillary.
Peter Parka
Well-Known Member
As it stands right now, I'll be voting for McCain as the lesser of 3 evils. Personally, Hillary is the epitome of evil and I would seriously have to consider moving out of the country if she becomes President. Obama, I don't know enough about his platform to be able to form a good opinion on him. My mother says he scares her but she can't quite put her finger on why. Some of the things he says I can get on board with but then other times he leaves me shaking my head as he fumbles through trying to find an excuse for the latest scandal. I also find it hard to get behind a candidate for PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES whose representative says "sometimes he does, sometimes he doesn't" in response to questions as to why he doesn't put his hand over his heart during the Pledge of Allegiance.
Of the 3 candidates, McCain is the only one that supports us staying in Iraq. Regardless of the economy, I don't think that our job is quite done over there yet. Regardless of what Hillary and Obama promise, it's not as simple as "hey, the President says we're pulling out" and boom all the troops are back home from Iraq. I think pulling out of Iraq too soon sends a message that you can attack us on our soil and get away w/ it...that's not a message I want us to send!!!
So my current position is McCain first, Obama second, every conceivable person I can write in third, and then Hillary.
Never really understood the importance of holding your hand to your heart during the anthem to be honest. I agree with staying in Iraq though even though I strongly disagree with the war. How can you fuck over a country even more than its fucked and then just say "see ya, I dont want to know any more"? Responsibility! Obama or McCain will be a vast improvement on Bush, Hillary, that's very debatable!
Ehh...Hillary already ran the country once and things weren't that great then, either.
All Else Failed
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I don't like Clinton, but guys, she's not THAT bad. At least not as bad as FOX is making her out to be. She's a favorite target of the right wing and they like to smear her as some evil person for ratings.
*Preemptive post*
And no Carthage, I'm not interested in what you have to say about her.
Buuuut anyways. Obama will be the next pres, so this all doesn't matter.
*Preemptive post*
And no Carthage, I'm not interested in what you have to say about her.
Buuuut anyways. Obama will be the next pres, so this all doesn't matter.
I don't watch Fox...I came to that assessment on my own. I actually thought she was evil long before she was running for President.
All Else Failed
Well-Known Member
Well I think she's a bitch, but to each their own.
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