The separation of church and state.

[dt3]

Pain can be easily observed through various stimuli and brain wave tests, this is basic knowledge to all doctors. Its been well documented and tested.


I would expect people who cant feel pain to believe in pain since its undeniably proven. Soooo......

This is going in directions better left for other threads in this forum. Soooooo.......

As long as you admit your earlier statement was flawed.......

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[All Else Failed]

This is going in directions better left for other threads in this forum. Soooooo.......

As long as you admit your earlier statement was flawed.......

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I might have just typed something wrong idk.


But like I just said, personal experiences do not prove something, UNLESS (like the pain thing) they can be proven by others.

 

[IntruderLS1]

I might have just typed something wrong idk.

LOL. You've just had your butt kicked up and down this thread. How do you feel? The best you can come up with is that you might have typed something wrong? Dude, that's the closest I've ever seen you get to saying you're not perfect in your thoughts, which is progress I guess, but you still get the emoti. wned:

I'm not trying to be an ass about this, but that's good times there. I don't care where you're from. :jk

 

[IntruderLS1]

On a more serious note though, I've been a little foggy on your idea of iron clad proof since our first couple of conversations. I've tried hinting at it a few times, but it just pisses you off so I leave it alone.

I'm going to ask a hypothetical here that's going to seem random, but I'm honestly curious.

How do you (personally) know for a fact that Napoleon marched across Europe? (trust me, I'm going somewhere with this) Were you there, or have you seen the actual artifacts of the war?

Reading about it in a book is in no way, shape, or form proof of anything, so how do we really know? :confused

 

[memento_mori]

so we've established that in the past religion was tied to laws. another interesting thing about the past is we used to be ruled by kings, and we used to hang people who spoke out against the king or the church, and we didn't have toilet paper.

i'd like to think we're beyond that now. government endorsing religion is bad news, for a similar reason for why monarchies are bad news- we need diversity. we need diversity and freedom of thought and people judging the government, not the government judging the people.

i know america isn't catholic, but in catholicism there' papal infallibility. that means that when the pope says it, it has to be right. there's no room for debate, it's the word of God, that's that. we don't need that kind of practice in our government if we're going to be a democracy.

 

[All Else Failed]

LOL. You've just had your butt kicked up and down this thread. How do you feel? The best you can come up with is that you might have typed something wrong? Dude, that's the closest I've ever seen you get to saying you're not perfect in your thoughts, which is progress I guess, but you still get the emoti. wned:

I'm not trying to be an ass about this, but that's good times there. I don't care where you're from. :jk

I think at the end of the day, the ones who do not believe in fairy tales laugh last.

 

[IntruderLS1]

i know america isn't catholic, but in catholicism there' papal infallibility. that means that when the pope says it, it has to be right. there's no room for debate, it's the word of God, that's that. we don't need that kind of practice in our government if we're going to be a democracy.

It's weird you should bring this up now, I was just talking to a friend about this last night. I'm not sure why the Catholics feel this way about their leader. To my knowledge, it isn't biblical at all. ... Dunno??

 

[memento_mori]

It's weird you should bring this up now, I was just talking to a friend about this last night. I'm not sure why the Catholics feel this way about their leader. To my knowledge, it isn't biblical at all. ... Dunno??

not every christian belief is based off the bible, sometimes there's some artistic license. like the gift of free will and dante's inferno.

it's not like people question actions by the church as much as actions by the state.