The Morality of Dishonesty

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as enough is not enough for the oppressor Israel..

And Ya'alon says more reservists could be called up. The Jerusalem Post's Lahav Harkov: "The IDF will call up reservists and continue fighting until quiet is returned, Defense Minister Moshe Ya'alon told the Knesset Foreign Affairs and Defense Committee Monday." Ya'alon: "We are prepared to continue the operation as long as necessary, and, if necessary, to enlist more combat forces from the reserves until we bring quiet to the Gaza Strip." More here.


Two Americans are among the Israeli soldiers reported dead:USA Today's William M. Welch: "Jewish websites in the United States identified them as Max Steinberg, 24, of Los Angeles and Sean Carmeli, 21, of South Padre Island, Texas. Both reportedly held U.S. and Israeli dual citizenship." More here.

 

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both were members of the Golani Brigade, an elite unit that lost 13 soldierson Sunday. The WSJ's Joshua Mitnick: "Golani occupies a legendary place in Israeli history. The unit retook Mount Hermon in the Golan Heights from Syrian forces that had seized the area during the 1973 Arab-Israeli war. In 2006, the last time Israel suffered such high toll, it also came at the expense of the Golani unit. Eight soldiers were killed while fighting in the southern Lebanon war at Bint Jbeil." More here.


It's still unclear whether Hamas captured an Israeli soldier. The AP's Karin Laub and Tia Goldenberg:"Hamas spokesman Mushir al-Masri in Gaza claimed Sunday evening his group had captured an Israeli soldier. An announcement on Gaza TV of the soldier's capture set off celebration in the streets of Gaza City. But the claim could not immediately be verified and the Israeli military said it was investigating the report." More here.


With the death toll rising, Arab governments finally speak out. FP's Jamila Trindle:"The intensity of the combat in Gaza -- and the growing civilian death toll -- brought the first significant criticism of Israel by Arab governments, who had surprised and angered many Palestinians because of their relative silence on the combat. On Sunday, though, the head of the Arab League blasted the Israeli offensive as a 'war crime' and a 'dangerous escalation.'

 

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They cannot be expected to throw flowers at them,,,


How much worse do things have to get in Israel before they get better? More then 500 Palestinians have now died in the two-week conflict and Israel says 18 of its soldiers have been killed along with two civilians. The question is how long is this going to go on before the two sides strike a cease-fire? Secretary of State John Kerry and the U.N.'s Ban Ki-Moon are in Cairo today to try to bring the two sides to the table after a weekend of terrible violence.


Sunday was the deadliest day in Gaza, reports The NYT's Anne Barnard and Isabel Kershner: "The mayhem began in the early hours of Sunday morning in Shejaiya, an eastern neighborhood of Gaza City, where Israeli forces battled with Hamas militants ... At least 60 Palestinians and 13 Israeli soldiers and officers were killed in Shejaiya alone, and the shattered neighborhood was quickly becoming a new symbol of the long-running Israeli-Palestinian conflict, underlining the rising cost of this latest Gaza war." More here.


U.N. Secretary Ban Ki-Moon calls the attack on Shejaiya 'an atrocious action':During a press conference alongside Qatari Foreign Minister Khaled al-Attiya, Ban said, "While I was en route to Doha, dozens more civilians, including children, have been killed in Israeli military strikes in the Shejaiyah neighborhood in Gaza. I condemn this atrocious action. Israel must exercise maximum restraint and do far more to protect civilians."


Still, the shelling continued through Sunday night and into this morning. Reuters' Nidal al-Mughrabi and Crispian Balmer: "Israeli forces killed at least 10 Palestinian militants on Monday after they crossed the border from Gaza through two tunnels, the military said, as the death toll from the two-week conflict passed 500.With the U.N. Security Council calling for an immediate ceasefire, Israeli jets and tanks continued to pound the Gaza Strip through the night." More here.

NB: banki moonh is said to have gone to Isreal and not Palestinians ....to talk abot ending mutual hostilities..
why>>?? Because Isreal is a spoiled baby of America!!

They cannot be expected to throw flowers at them

Fire rockets for years into a nation..then when that nations starts to kick your ass..as the nation that was shooting the rockets disagrees to a ceasefire....people like you want us to pity them.
Do you see why stone was always responding to your posts.
You are a terrorist supporter...but yet try to deny it....its part of your culture.

How much worse do things have to get in Israel before they get better? More then 500 Palestinians have now died in the two-week conflict and Israel says 18 of its soldiers have been killed along with two civilians.

18 to 500...seems like you should be asking the terrorist nation that you support this question...you know the one that refuses to agree to a ceasefire..and has 500 dead....why dont you plea for them to stop?..and agree to a ceasefire...but yet in a moronic fashion you want to blame Israel like an ignorant fuck ...you know the nation that is asking for a ceasefire.
I try to be nice I really do.....here I am talking with a terrorist supporter while he tries to play on the sympathy of the viewers to support his terrorism.

Here you support the terrorists who have been terrorizing for years...who disagree to a ceasefire when they start getting smacked around....while your heart bleeds for them they are getting what they ask for...a no ceasefire.
Not only are your terrorist buddies pussies as they hide among the citizens..they are morons as well



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Two Americans are among the Israeli soldiers reported dead:USA Today's William M. Welch: "Jewish websites in the United States identified them as Max Steinberg, 24, of Los Angeles and Sean Carmeli, 21, of South Padre Island, Texas. Both reportedly held U.S. and Israeli dual citizenship." More here.

I bet this excites you doesnt it maz..Americans dieing.
Pisses me off....some punk ass terrorists killing Americans.

 

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With the death toll rising, Arab governments finally speak out. FP's Jamila Trindle:"The intensity of the combat in Gaza -- and the growing civilian death toll -- brought the first significant criticism of Israel by Arab governments, who had surprised and angered many Palestinians because of their relative silence on the combat. On Sunday, though, the head of the Arab League blasted the Israeli offensive as a 'war crime' and a 'dangerous escalation.'

Dont you get it...even they dont like em..so now the Palestinians cry "why haven't my arab brothers spoke up"
So they voice up.."Yeah Israel is bad"
LOL..Some arab brothers hey Maz..sitting back while the Jews kick their ass.
Oh..and why is it a war crime by Israel...but it ok for the Pals..to fire rockets at Israel for years.
Sounds like the Arab brothers are hypocrites Maz..but they actually dont give a fuck about the Pals..they just hate the Jews..Its really that simple.

 

[The Man]

Neither Israel nor Hamas can win in Gaza


http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2014/07/18/a_pox_on_all_their_houses_hamas_gaza_abbas_israel?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_term=*Situation Report&utm_campaign=2014_Situation Report#latest


-- Hamas's rocket capabilities are straightforward, but unachievable unless the country were to fully reoccupy Gaza and reverse the "unilateral disengagement" enacted by Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon in 2005. Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman hascalled for such a reoccupation, but Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu dismissed these ideas as "background noise." There appears to be no real possibility that Israel's military will once again police the streets of Gaza as an army of direct occupation. Under such circumstances, even given the significant ground operations launched on Thursday, all Israel can really do is single out stores of rockets, secure or demolish launching sites, destroy tunnel infrastructure, and target the homes and offices of Hamas officials and members

Fact is your terrorist buddies refuse to agree on a ceasefire...perhapsthey feel they are winning..but you have claimed 500 killed while the almighty Israel has lost 18.
You do understand that Israel could wipe out tens of thousand in a couple hours if they wanted to..and not lose a single life?
perhaps if they ramped up a little your buddies would agree to a ceasefire...perhaps not though as they are Morons.

 

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Dont you get it...even they dont like em..so now the Palestinians cry "why haven't my arab brothers spoke up"
So they voice up.."Yeah Israel is bad"
LOL..Some arab brothers hey Maz..sitting back while the Jews kick their ass.
Oh..and why is it a war crime by Israel...but it ok for the Pals..to fire rockets at Israel for years.
Sounds like the Arab brothers are hypocrites Maz..but they actually dont give a fuck about the Pals..they just hate the Jews..Its really that simple.

It is criminal to bomb anyone pelting at you!

I agree that the Muslim world has turned hypocrite and that is also ONE of the reasons for their fall and decline! Go ahead and cash their differences as long as you can,,but remember,, the mill of God grinds slowly but SURELY!!

 

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Fact is your terrorist buddies refuse to agree on a ceasefire...perhapsthey feel they are winning..but you have claimed 500 killed while the almighty Israel has lost 18.
You do understand that Israel could wipe out tens of thousand in a couple hours if they wanted to..and not lose a single life?
perhaps if they ramped up a little your buddies would agree to a ceasefire...perhaps not though as they are Morons.

Then what are you waiting for?? You mama is not going to come and exhort you to destroy the world, or is she??

 

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Fact is your terrorist buddies refuse to agree on a ceasefire...perhapsthey feel they are winning..but you have claimed 500 killed while the almighty Israel has lost 18.
You do understand that Israel could wipe out tens of thousand in a couple hours if they wanted to..and not lose a single life?
perhaps if they ramped up a little your buddies would agree to a ceasefire...perhaps not though as they are Morons.

Got this in an email a while ago,,,


If this is the price for " the promised land" I would prefer to live in the desert.
None of these pictures will make a difference to the Israeli government. USA & Europe to withdraw their support. But they will only do it if the people that matter to them, their own electorate, reject that support. all their computers should be flooded with these images along with how much each taxpayer contributes to this genocide

http://www.wrmea.org/wrmea-archives...l-aid-to-israel-figures-facts-and-impact.html

 

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Poetic Justice!!


"They killed 25 to get one ..." Stories of civilian deaths in Gaza like this one in Khan Younis, where more than 20 members of the Abu Jamaa family were killed during one F-16 air strike, are haunting and challenge Israel's claim that it does all it can to prevent civilian deaths. Sharif Abdel Kouddous with morefor FP.

 

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TOO MANY IS TOO LITTLE FOR ISRAEL & ITS SUPPORTERS!

HYPOCRISY IS LET TO PREVAIL!

The U.S. is pressing Israel to wind down its offensive in Gaza. FP's Colum Lynch:"While the United States blamed Hamas for being the greatest obstacle to a cease-fire, American officials signaled that they aren't prepared to give Israel a free hand to continue its military campaign against the Islamist group.


"Speaking before the U.N. Security Council, Samantha Power, the U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, said a 'cease-fire as soon as possible is essential.' Power's remarks came as Israel's military offensive against Hamas in Gaza reached the 15-day mark with no sign of winding down, fueling a growing wave of criticism that Israel has killed too many civilians in its battle against the militants." More here.


Secretary of State John Kerry's busy day in Israel. From State Department Spokesperson Jen Psaki: "Secretary Kerry arrived in Tel Aviv, Israel, this morning to meet with officials to discuss the ongoing ceasefire efforts. He will also travel to Jerusalem and the West Bank, and will be meeting with UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon, Palestinian Authority President Abbas, and Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu." The NYT's Michael R. Gordon with more on Kerry's agenda here.

 

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It is criminal to bomb anyone pelting at you!

I agree that the Muslim world has turned hypocrite and that is also ONE of the reasons for their fall and decline! Go ahead and cash their differences as long as you can,,but remember,, the mill of God grinds slowly but SURELY!!

Maz it is criminal to fire rockets at the citizens of Israel.
Dont you get it?...you only seems to be concerned with Israel defending itself...why have you never demanded that the terrorists stop firing rockets at the Jews?
You clearly are a terrorist supporter Maz....I can see why Stone was always responding to your posts.

 

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Maz it is criminal to fire rockets at the citizens of Israel.
Dont you get it?...you only seems to be concerned with Israel defending itself...why have you never demanded that the terrorists stop firing rockets at the Jews?
You clearly are a terrorist supporter Maz....I can see why Stone was always responding to your posts.

Read comments of various observers I posted...you seem to call all of them 'terrorist supporters'' don't you? It all goes to show what a deadly stony heart you have!!

 

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Maz it is criminal to fire rockets at the citizens of Israel.
Dont you get it?...you only seems to be concerned with Israel defending itself...why have you never demanded that the terrorists stop firing rockets at the Jews?
You clearly are a terrorist supporter Maz....I can see why Stone was always responding to your posts.

this is the real bone of contention between the Hamas and Israel.

''"Hamas militants stood by their demand that Israel and Egypt lift the economic blockade of the seaside strip that borders both nations before they will drop their arms. ''


and this is how Israel in its arrogance wants it to settle.

''Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu sounded resolute that the fighting will go on until Israel accomplishes more of its military goal to destroy''

 

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Maz it is criminal to fire rockets at the citizens of Israel.
Dont you get it?...you only seems to be concerned with Israel defending itself...why have you never demanded that the terrorists stop firing rockets at the Jews?
You clearly are a terrorist supporter Maz....I can see why Stone was always responding to your posts.

''can the U.S. be an honest broker for peace or does its ties to Israel create a perception of bias?''

 

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Israel shells U.N.-run school in Gaza Strip, killing at least 10

Israeli forces shelled a U.N.-run school filled with Palestinian refugees in the northern part of the Gaza Strip, killing at least 10 people and wounding more than 100, Palestinian officials said.

Several shells hit the school run by the U.N. Relief and Works Agency in Beit Hanoun, the Gaza Health Ministry said.

 

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this is the real bone of contention between the Hamas and Israel.

''"Hamas militants stood by their demand that Israel and Egypt lift the economic blockade of the seaside strip that borders both nations before they will drop their arms. ''


and this is how Israel in its arrogance wants it to settle.

''Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu sounded resolute that the fighting will go on until Israel accomplishes more of its military goal to destroy''

Why do you think its there maz?...as they have been shooting rockets for years.
Perhaps if your terrorist buddies stopped terrorizing they could enjoy the finer things in life...you know as the jews are doing.
Whats funny is they wanted the jews out then when they left they started shooting rockets at them and years later still are..however they were living like lords when jews were in the areas..bur your terrorist buddies are so ignorant they just keep making things worse for themselves. ..thats what hate will do maz...they hate jews so much that they cant see past it.

 

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Read comments of various observers I posted...you seem to call all of them 'terrorist supporters'' don't you? It all goes to show what a deadly stony heart you have!!

As they pretty much are...almost all nations deny them travel in.
Additionally in the past when it was open travel ..they decided to stay there..however many arabs in Israel are muslim as they left Pal.
They teach em in school to kill the jew...the entire area is anti jew....tv commercials are anti jew..most of the funds go to anti jew causes and is the largest part of the budget.

 

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I think much less of pal than the terrorist state of pk.
Pal is the bottom of the barrel..they are so fucked up in the head it simply cant be fixed...pk has a chance yes...but Pal is a lost cause.

 

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As they pretty much are...almost all nations deny them travel in.
Additionally in the past when it was open travel ..they decided to stay there..however many arabs in Israel are muslim as they left Pal.
They teach em in school to kill the jew...the entire area is anti jew....tv commercials are anti jew..most of the funds go to anti jew causes and is the largest part of the budget.

''A unanimous Senate vote is rare, so what explains being more loyal to Israel than quite a few critical Jewish Israelis in that country itself? An important factor is undoubtedly money. In 2006 when the London Review of Books published an article (commissioned and rejected by the Atlantic Monthly) by Professors Walt and Mearsheimer on the Israel Lobby, there was the usual brouhaha from the usual suspects. Not the late Tony Judt, who publicly defended publication of the text and was himself subjected to violent threats and hate mail by we know who.''

''The ‘philosemitic offensive’ is ahistorical:

It would be facile to see this memorializing culture as a belated crisis of international conscience, or a sense of historical justice that took time to materialize . . . The majority of United Nations General Assembly members have emerged from a colonial past: they are the descendants of those who suffered genocides in Africa, Asia or Latin America. There should be no reason for the commemoration of the genocide of the Jews to block out the memory of these millions of Africans or Native Americans killed by the civilized Western invaders of their continents.

Laor’s explanation is that with the old Cold War friend-enemy dichotomy swept aside a new global enemy had to be cultivated in Europe:

In the new moral universe of the ‘end of history’, there was one abomination—the Jewish genocide—that all could unite to condemn; equally important, it was now firmly in the past. Its commemoration would serve both to sacralize the new Europe’s liberal-humanist tolerance of ‘the other (who is like us)’ and to redefine ‘the other (who is different from us)’ in terms of Muslim fundamentalism.
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