The Law should be the Law and if you don't agree, have it remove properly for all..

[darkangel]

Re: The Law should be the Law and if you don't agree, have it remove properly for all

Just remember that anything and everything can and WILL be used against you in a court of law.

Isn't that the case only after you've been read your Miranda Rights though?

 

[Tim]

Re: The Law should be the Law and if you don't agree, have it remove properly for all

Isn't that the case only after you've been read your Miranda Rights though?

nope, they can use anything you say at anytime. The miranda rights just remind you to shut the fuck up. Which you are a complete fool to ignore.

Mirand rights are only given after you are placed under arrest. You might only be answering a few simple questions and be placed under arrest after you say something you shouldn't have. But it's too late at that point, you already sunk your ship.

I know it's long... but please, if you have any questions as to why you should never talk to the police, watch this.

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the second part

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[Francis]

Re: The Law should be the Law and if you don't agree, have it remove properly for all

nope, they can use anything you say at anytime. The miranda rights just remind you to shut the fuck up. Which you are a complete fool to ignore.

Mirand rights are only given after you are placed under arrest. You might only be answering a few simple questions and be placed under arrest after you say something you shouldn't have. But it's too late at that point, you already sunk your ship.

I know it's long... but please, if you have any questions as to why you should never talk to the police, watch this.

Question for you Tim ?

I am not sure about the US so I will ask you and if others want to pipe in they can..

What if you were just in an accident, such myself, and you had ambulance and firemen all around you asking you all sorts of questions and did not notice the police officer, mostly due to injuries and trying to stay alive, ask you if he could draw blood and in the hustle of questions you answer yes to a question and he assumes you said yes to his ? For the sake of argument, lets just say you did answer him anyway, with Trauma, are you not impaired and immune and is his question not entrapment by your laws ?

 

[darkangel]

Re: The Law should be the Law and if you don't agree, have it remove properly for all

Here read this...

http://www.lectlaw.com/def/e024.htm

 

[Tim]

Re: The Law should be the Law and if you don't agree, have it remove properly for all

Question for you Tim ?

I am not sure about the US so I will ask you and if others want to pipe in they can..

What if you were just in an accident, such myself, and you had ambulance and firemen all around you asking you all sorts of questions and did not notice the police officer, mostly due to injuries and trying to stay alive, ask you if he could draw blood and in the hustle of questions you answer yes to a question and he assumes you said yes to his ? For the sake of argument, lets just say you did answer him anyway, with Trauma, are you not impaired and immune and is his question not entrapment by your laws ?

That's a gray area that would need to be addressed by the courts. It would turn into a he said/she said kind of thing and you would be fighting an uphill battle since it's your word against the word of a police officer.

 

[Natasha]

Re: The Law should be the Law and if you don't agree, have it remove properly for all

So you have no problem giving away your constitutional rights in the interest of "safety"?

I have no problems w/ my vehicle being searched, no. The most interesting thing they're gonna find is my geocaching log. Now if they tore my car apart searching it (b/c they can remove seats, gas tanks, etc and have no obligation to put it back) I'd be rather pissed just b/c of the damage...but searches I have no problem with.

 

[retro]

Re: The Law should be the Law and if you don't agree, have it remove properly for all

I have no problems w/ my vehicle being searched, no. The most interesting thing they're gonna find is my geocaching log. Now if they tore my car apart searching it (b/c they can remove seats, gas tanks, etc and have no obligation to put it back) I'd be rather pissed just b/c of the damage...but searches I have no problem with.

Just so I'm clear... you wouldn't have a problem if you were pulled over because the officer decided you looked funny, and then proceeded to destroy your car looking for "something". All because he thought you might look suspicious?

 

[itsmeJonB]

Re: The Law should be the Law and if you don't agree, have it remove properly for all

Just so I'm clear... you wouldn't have a problem if you were pulled over because the officer decided you looked funny, and then proceeded to destroy your car looking for "something". All because he thought you might look suspicious?

I'm not OK with that because he'd find my drug paraphernalia and my unregistered handguns

 

[Peter Parka]

Re: The Law should be the Law and if you don't agree, have it remove properly for all

I dont agree with random stop and searches by the police, not because I have anything to hide but because they are abusing anti terrorist laws which wern't for this purpose, to search me and frankly it gets really annoying when they keep doing it.

 

[Natasha]

Re: The Law should be the Law and if you don't agree, have it remove properly for all

Just so I'm clear... you wouldn't have a problem if you were pulled over because the officer decided you looked funny, and then proceeded to destroy your car looking for "something". All because he thought you might look suspicious?

No, I said that I would NOT be okay w/ damage to my vehicle. Search all you want...but damage my shit and THEN I'm gonna be pissed.

 

[Accountable]

Re: The Law should be the Law and if you don't agree, have it remove properly for all

I have no problems w/ my vehicle being searched, no. The most interesting thing they're gonna find is my geocaching log. Now if they tore my car apart searching it (b/c they can remove seats, gas tanks, etc and have no obligation to put it back) I'd be rather pissed just b/c of the damage...but searches I have no problem with.

No, I said that I would NOT be okay w/ damage to my vehicle. Search all you want...but damage my shit and THEN I'm gonna be pissed.

Same response if it was your home?

 

[retro]

Re: The Law should be the Law and if you don't agree, have it remove properly for all

No, I said that I would NOT be okay w/ damage to my vehicle. Search all you want...but damage my shit and THEN I'm gonna be pissed.

I gotcha. But I guess I don't see much of a difference between searching and destroying. Either way it's a personal violation of your property without real probable cause.

 

[Natasha]

Re: The Law should be the Law and if you don't agree, have it remove properly for all

Same response if it was your home?

Pretty much. I have nothing to hide. *shrugs* Yeah, I understand why other people aren't like I am about it...but the only thing I would be pissed about would be the mess, LOL

I gotcha. But I guess I don't see much of a difference between searching and destroying. Either way it's a personal violation of your property without real probable cause.

Big difference between searching and destroying...BIG difference.

 

[Peter Parka]

Re: The Law should be the Law and if you don't agree, have it remove properly for all

What about if you had naked photos of yourself or your partner in your wallet/ car or home? Would you be happy about strange police officers seeing them if they were just randomly searching you without any decent reason?

 

[Natasha]

Re: The Law should be the Law and if you don't agree, have it remove properly for all

What about if you had naked photos of yourself or your partner in your wallet/ car or home? Would you be happy about strange police officers seeing them if they were just randomly searching you without any decent reason?

LMFAO...well, I would NEVER carry those...so I wouldn't have to deal w/ that. But I have strange friends who think it's funny to send me texts of people shitting on each other OR their own bowel movements...if someone wanted to search my phone (and my job has the right to do so if I bring it on the property) I might be a little embarrassed but, more than likely, I'd just end up laughing about it. I did have a friend whose house got searched one day and she had to pull the female cop off to the side and tell her where her "toy box" was and ask her to please search that herself instead of letting the male cops do it.

 

[Peter Parka]

Re: The Law should be the Law and if you don't agree, have it remove properly for all

Just remember a clever way the Rolling Stones, Marrianne Faithful and some photographer got away with a huge amount of drugs during a police search of their house. They had a huge case full of coke on the table and the photographer told them not to open it as it contained undeveloped film and the light would ruin it.

 

[Natasha]

Re: The Law should be the Law and if you don't agree, have it remove properly for all

Just remember a clever way the Rolling Stones, Marrianne Faithful and some photographer got away with a huge amount of drugs during a police search of their house. They had a huge case full of coke on the table and the photographer told them not to open it as it contained undeveloped film and the light would ruin it.

LMFAO...that's awesome!!! Can't believe they were dumb enough to fall for that, though...HELLO!!!

 

[retro]

Re: The Law should be the Law and if you don't agree, have it remove properly for all

Big difference between searching and destroying...BIG difference.

But they have the right to destroy while searching, right?

 

[Natasha]

Re: The Law should be the Law and if you don't agree, have it remove properly for all

But they have the right to destroy while searching, right?

Pretty much...which is the part I have a problem with. Especially since they are under no obligation to put it back...even if they remove the seats and gas tank of your vehicle.

 

[darkangel]

Re: The Law should be the Law and if you don't agree, have it remove properly for all

Pretty much...which is the part I have a problem with. Especially since they are under no obligation to put it back...even if they remove the seats and gas tank of your vehicle.

I had a friend who that happened to and he was ticked!!! They thought he was hiding drugs...