The Job Defines the Person?

[Strauss]

Not having a good job dosen't denote lack of ambition though, there are many, many things you can be ambitious about which arn't a job.

Based upon my example it would. And what would you be ambitious about? Your hobby?

 

[BreakfastSurreal]

it's not about the job..it's about the work ethic.

 

[Peter Parka]

Based upon my example it would. And what would you be ambitious about? Your hobby?

Spending quality time with your family, charities, religion, music ect ect, like I said, there's a lot more to life than work.

 

[skyblue]

Based upon my example it would. And what would you be ambitious about? Your hobby?

yes....why not?

as you know i take alot of pictures,when i first started a few years ago what i was doing was poor......i improved,thats where my drive is.....i want to improve even further

i work to live not live to work

 

[siasl]

And they maybe valid reasons to him but that doesn't mean you have to ignore your need for an ambitious person does it? Its not judging him, its being aware of what you want. Big difference.

i like your new brain there, strauss :thumbup
seems to be working well for you

:ninja

 

[flipx]

The Job Defines the Person?

Most definitely not.

 

[Strauss]

Spending quality time with your family, charities, religion, music ect ect, like I said, there's a lot more to life than work.

And where is the ambition? Still missing the point, if a girl wants a man who exhibits ambition then she can judge him on the type of work he does. You may not like that but from her standpoint, so what.

 

[Strauss]

yes....why not?

as you know i take alot of pictures,when i first started a few years ago what i was doing was poor......i improved,thats where my drive is.....i want to improve even further

i work to live not live to work

That would passionate not ambitious.

 

[groundpounder]

Two things:

There is no future in a job. Only with the person that holds it.

There is no work that, if done properly, cannot be done with dignity.

 

[groundpounder]

If you like someone and think well of them, then later find out they have a job that isn't impressive, would that change your view of them?...

And to answer this question, no.

 

[Peter Parka]

And where is the ambition? Still missing the point, if a girl wants a man who exhibits ambition then she can judge him on the type of work he does. You may not like that but from her standpoint, so what.

Very narrow minded point of view, you really dont see the bigger picture, do you?

 

[Strauss]

Very narrow minded point of view, you really dont see the bigger picture, do you?

Actually, you got that ass backwards; there are very wide range of human needs. Your instant, "the job doesn't define the person" is the narrow point of view because to some people the job does. As I said before, you may not like that but it doesn't make it less of valid need on the part of that person. Failing to see the big picture falls on you.

 

[Peter Parka]

Actually, you got that ass backwards; there are very wide range of human needs. Your instant, "the job doesn't define the person" is the narrow point of view because to some people the job does. As I said before, you may not like that but it doesn't make it less of valid need on the part of that person. Failing to see the big picture falls on you.

See, this is where your point dosen't add up. To some, it defines them, not to others, so why judge everyone on their job?

 

[Strauss]

See, this is where your point dosen't add up. To some, it defines them, not to others, so why judge everyone on their job?

Because to some its important. Why do you feel the need to criticize, control, denigrate and otherwise look down your nose at people who judge others based upon their job? BTW, I never said "everyone"?

 

[Peter Parka]

Because to some its important. Why do you feel the need to criticize, control, denigrate and otherwise look down your nose at people who judge others based upon their job? BTW, I never said "everyone"?

Because I dont like narrowminded judgemental people looking down their nose at people based on something they no nothing about.

 

[Strauss]

Because I dont like narrowminded judgemental people looking down their nose at people based on something they no nothing about.

So you are judgmental about people who you believe are narrow minded because they are, in your opinion, judgmental. Ha Ha Ha. Yeah, that''s the ticket. Does the word "hypocrite" mean anything to you?

 

[Peter Parka]

Yes, you're right, should I now like racists too seeing that I'm being a hypocrite not liking a bunch of people who dont like another bunch of people?

 

[flipx]

WTF are you two on about?! lmao

 

[Obdurate]

Strauss is just playing with words. It's meaningless.

 

[Strauss]

Yes, you're right, should I now like racists too seeing that I'm being a hypocrite not liking a bunch of people who dont like another bunch of people?

Strauss is just playing with words. It's meaningless.

Racist is a different issue but you knew that when you posted it.

Playing with words? Yeah, pointing out an error in logic is playing with words.:sarcasm

What you gentlemen fail to grasp is that the question as original posed relates to the person making the judgment. I've never said that I support such a judgment. I, however, understand that because of their "values" and/or "needs" may drive that judgment. To judge them because of their particular need is a perfect example of hypocrisy on both side of the equation To quote a guy whose name escapes me at the moment (I know his name I'm just fucking with you) "judge not lest you be judged".

People considering entering in to a relationship make judgments all the time....is he to fat, to old, smells funny etc......judging based upon the other person's job may just be another criteria.