The Bengazi fiasco

[The Man]

I may be wrong, but I believe Johns point is that multiple times in our countries history there have been deaths overseas that may smell of a cover up IF someone dug into our governments actions or lack of actions. However, it seems this incident is being investigated "harder" than many of the other past incidents under previous presidents.

I didn't vote for Obama, and I don't think he's that great of a president.

That said, the fact is, what happened in Bengazi was tragic. Do I think that the US may not of been prepared for it as well as they should of been? Yes. However, hindsight is a perfect science.

People tend to forget that it was the butthole in the US expressing his freedom of speech who decided to go making a film about Islam, with undoubtedly the intent to stir up a hornets nest (which he did, and is now in jail due to a probation violation I believe) that started this ruckus.

Some guys with some large than normal firepower decided to take advantage of the situation, and they did.

How the incident fell is what makes it smell.
First it was over a video...then it wasnt.
When it was known the entire time it was terrorists...and orders were given to stand down.

If the fact wasnt hidden that they were terrorists and we had at least offered air support during the incident...there would be no reason to 'dig"

 

[The Man]

Thanks Joe. TM needs help with his reading comprehension, lol.

You still managed to dodge the question John

 

[Johnfromokc]

You still managed to dodge the question John

Is Missouri public education really that bad?

 

[The Man]

So John...how does exposing this incident make someone a conservobot.

 

[Stone]

I was just tossing something out there that everyone could agree on and it took time for the truth to emerge.{the waterboarding}
Goes back to Johns conservobot statement ...With his logic they would be conservobots as well {those who exposed it}

Trust me when I post I don't see your argument.

 

[Joe the meek]

You really buy that? So the timing, coordination, and amount of arms suddenly produced are all coincidental?

Dude, you wouldn't believe how many rounds of steel case ammo I just order using my Caebla's points no charge lol

Ummm, lets see, a country in the sandbox that just went through a civil war? Heck, having RPG's and mortars is probably less of a deal than having a class 3 license here.

The compound would of been ranged out long before the attack. Have a crap load of people show up to demonstrate and you'd be amazed how quick you could set up your equipment from the back of a good old did east Toyota pick up.

Do I know exactly what happend? Heck no.

That said, I find it ironic that it's John from Arizona who is raising his voice and he was the same guy hollaring about going into Libya in the first place. Ironic isn't it that you aren't seeing Nato Jets being used for covering the rebals there in their own civil war isn't it?

 

[The Man]

Trust me when I post I don't see your argument.

It goes back to the early posts in the thread.
Those that question the incident are conservobots {as we only demands answers because it was under Obamas watch}
My effort is to steer it away from the dem and rep slinging...and steer it to towards AAs stance of why didnt they just tell us the truth in the beginning.

 

[Johnfromokc]

So John...how does exposing this incident make someone a conservobot.

Because you conservobots did not say jack shit about all the embassy personnel killed under Bush. You don't give a fuck about those 4 people who were killed. Right wing idiots just hate Obama so much that they are making a post election issue out of something that happened repeatedly under a Republican president.

 

[Joe the meek]

How the incident fell is what makes it smell.
First it was over a video...then it wasnt.
When it was known the entire time it was terrorists...and orders were given to stand down.

If the fact wasnt hidden that they were terrorists and we had at least offered air support during the incident...there would be no reason to 'dig"

I will agree that there may be a faint odor.

Now, if that bozo woundn't of started all that crap in the US over his home made video, and you didn't have people protesting in multiple countries as well at this same time, the odor could be reeking.

Did Obama go out of his way to have those 4 people killed? I don't think so. Could Obama provided more security? Again, hindsight is perfect science.

Part of the problem as I see it is that people today are spoiled. They expect fast and accurate information the second after something happens, and God forbid if there is confilcting reports. That said, I could understand why some mis-information may of wanted to be given to try to track those responsible for this. Keep in mind, the same dang news we see is the same dang news the terrorists see.

Heck, even in the business world I work in I'll put some mis information out there just to see who is leaking info.

 

[Johnfromokc]

Did Obama go out of his way to have those 4 people killed? I don't think so. Could Obama provided more security? Again, hindsight is perfect science.

Keep in mind that it was 9/11 in all 294 embassies and consolates around the planet. Should we have placed a Marine weapons company at each one just in case?

Part of the problem as I see it is that people today are spoiled. They expect fast and accurate information the second after something happens, and God forbid if there is confilcting reports.

Exactly. Add in a little partisan politics and post election sour grapes and this is what we have here.

 

[Johnfromokc]

 

[Alien Allen]

There were lots of questions about the story line weeks before the election

This would have probably waned but when you throw in a sex scandal into the mix it stirs it up nicely

Glad to know that CNN is now conservative

It would appear either the White House is incompetent or liars. Neither is very comforting

If they had been more forthcoming then this would have been long ago in the rear view mirror. IMO

Of note there has been not much made of Broadwells comments about there being Libyan prisoners at the CIA house. How did she know this?
Has anybody refuted that claim?

WHO KNEW WHAT WHEN

 

[The Man]

Because you conservobots did not say jack shit about all the embassy personnel killed under Bush. You don't give a fuck about those 4 people who were killed. Right wing idiots just hate Obama so much that they are making a post election issue out of something that happened repeatedly under a Republican president.

How long have you been a member here john?
Since Bush days....No
How long have I been a member here?...since bush days...No
So how can you make such a statement when we not active during incidents that occurred during bush?

 

[Johnfromokc]

How long have you been a member here john?
Since Bush days....No
How long have I been a member here?...since bush days...No
So how can you make such a statement when we not active during incidents that occurred during bush?

Do tell TM - how outraged were you with the 31 embassy personnel deaths during the Bush presidency?

 

[Johnfromokc]

 

[The Man]

Do tell TM - how outraged were you with the 31 embassy personnel deaths during the Bush presidency?

They all piss me off....Am I still a conservobot?

But tell me John....thats alot of deaths how many were cover ups?

 

[The Man]

LOL
there were over a dozen this last time around alone john..and your bias graph has 2
I bet it was created by liberbots...intentionally forgetting the last 2 years

 

[The Man]

Fact is John..Obama will come in number one and in just 4 years i might add

 

[Johnfromokc]

TM - you are just further proof that intelligence is not a requirement to be a conservotard. Your boy mittens lost. Get over it and move on.

 

[Alien Allen]

So are the democrats in congress holding hearings now suddenly conservatives?