The arabs will soon drink the camel's piss

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if USA and other europen countries dont support Israel, arabians and Iran can win the war. but i dont believe if israel war with arabians, USA dont support.

because israel is effected on USA government.

That is probably the most intelligent post in a thread lacking thereof. Isreal exists only because of massive military and monetary input from Europe and America. In fact, Isreal as a nation would not even exist if not for the efforts of the West.

Iraq was a first world country, if I understand what that term means. Only the incessant bombing and blockade throughout the nineties reduced it to a stone-age mudhole.

As for Iran and Nigeria being a "shambles", well, that is neither here nor there. The economic and cultural state of those nations are not related to the price of oil. Also, the talk of war with Isreal and the Arab nations is just idiocy. It sounds more like, "My dad can beat up your dad." schoolyard bully talk.
 
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I don't do "wiki" the McDonald's of world knowledge. First, third and any other kind of "world" are all relative terms. Even your own nation fails to be "first" in several aspects.
 

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That is probably the most intelligent post in a thread lacking thereof. Isreal exists only because of massive military and monetary input from Europe and America. In fact, Isreal as a nation would not even exist if not for the efforts of the West.

Iraq was a first world country, if I understand what that term means. Only the incessant bombing and blockade throughout the nineties reduced it to a stone-age mudhole.

As for Iran and Nigeria being a "shambles", well, that is neither here nor there. The economic and cultural state of those nations are not related to the price of oil. Also, the talk of war with Isreal and the Arab nations is just idiocy. It sounds more like, "My dad can beat up your dad." schoolyard bully talk.
Israel is a close ally of USA. If your best friend is in trouble surrounded by muslims with mad cows disease are you just gonna walk away and ignore? The economy of oil producing countries is mainly dependent on oil revenues. Nigeria and Iran is in shambles despite beeing among top oil producers is simply cuz of massive corruption. Furthermore oil wells in nigeria are continously being sabotaged by muslim rebels
 

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Nigeria is like any African country, a shambles because of tribal fighting and covert insurgency by world powers. What do you mean by Iran being in shambles? Explain.
 

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You don't, start here:First World - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Iraq a first world country, that is hilarious, even from you.

looks like you got him :24:

I don't do "wiki" the McDonald's of world knowledge. First, third and any other kind of "world" are all relative terms. Even your own nation fails to be "first" in several aspects.

so yo got.............nothin :D

Iraq is no better than the other neanderthals in the region. that was one of the points which Bush tried to make and which he screwed up on thinking he could change.

Iran is the closest to western in the region. we should have invaded there. :D
 

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As for Israel, if it didn't exist there wouldn't be strife in the Middle East. It is an artificial entity that continues to exist only through artificial means. If you target Muslims in their own lands you are only targeting the symptom, not the cause.
 

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Its a third world country and oil revenues are siphoned off. I have frends there and I get news from the horse's mouth. Pretty much under develiped with laws of the jungle. If u want a good idea just compare the per capita incomes. Just google it. Most people there trying to get out of the country.
 

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looks like you got him :24:



so yo got.............nothin :D

Iraq is no better than the other neanderthals in the region. that was one of the points which Bush tried to make and which he screwed up on thinking he could change.

Iran is the closest to western in the region. we should have invaded there. :D

Are you as fucking stupid as your posts seem to indicate? You imply that Iraq was Neanderthal, therefore it was ok to invade. It is said that one should know one's enemy, but does that mean one should also think like him? It was people thinking America was Neanderthal that caused them to crash planes into certain parts of it.

I don't approve anybody crashing planes into American buildings, or anybody else's buildings for that matter, no more than I approve of anybody crashing their ideology into other people's culture. Bush was the Neanderthal for thinking, as you said yourself, that he could change how other people are.
 

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Its a third world country and oil revenues are siphoned off. I have frends there and I get news from the horse's mouth. Pretty much under develiped with laws of the jungle. If u want a good idea just compare the per capita incomes. Just google it. Most people there trying to get out of the country.
What country are you referring to?
 

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Are you as fucking stupid as your posts seem to indicate? You imply that Iraq was Neanderthal, therefore it was ok to invade. It is said that one should know one's enemy, but does that mean one should also think like him? It was people thinking America was Neanderthal that caused them to crash planes into certain parts of it.

I don't approve anybody crashing planes into American buildings, or anybody else's buildings for that matter, no more than I approve of anybody crashing their ideology into other people's culture. Bush was the Neanderthal for thinking, as you said yourself, that he could change how other people are.
If you are a gentleman then stop the personal attacks in this forum
 

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Obviously Iran
No it wasn't obvious. You were posting about Iran and Nigeria. You don't post clearly enough and you don't explain your statements:

1 - ts a third world country and oil revenues are siphoned off.

What makes it a third world country and who is siphoning off the oil revenues to where?

2 - Pretty much under develiped with laws of the jungle.

Again, what makes it underdevelopped and exactly what are laws of the jungle?

3 - compare the per capita incomes.

You need two things to make a comparison. To what should I compare it?
 

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No it wasn't obvious. You were posting about Iran and Nigeria. You don't post clearly enough and you don't explain your statements:

1 - ts a third world country and oil revenues are siphoned off.

What makes it a third world country and who is siphoning off the oil revenues to where?

2 - Pretty much under develiped with laws of the jungle.

Again, what makes it underdevelopped and exactly what are laws of the jungle?

3 - compare the per capita incomes.

You need two things to make a comparison. To what should I compare it?
You are really qualified to be an interrogator with CIA?FBI
 

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OPEC is planning to make a deep output cut when they meet on Dec 17. Oil price is now at a 4 year low at $40. Iraq's economy is suffering. The claim that iraq was once a first world country is really beyond logic - my toes still laughing. Iraq almost went bankrupt after fighting 3 wars with Iran
 

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As for Israel, if it didn't exist there wouldn't be strife in the Middle East.
:eek :24:

So for the thousands of years before Israel existed, the Middle East was a peaceful place? :24:

Israel is simply the new focal point of Arab hatred. If it wasn't there, you'd still have endless sectarian violence between the Sunnis and the Shias. The Arabs have been fighting since the dawn of time. To blame it on Israel is ridiculous.
 

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:eek :24:

So for the thousands of years before Israel existed, the Middle East was a peaceful place? :24:

Israel is simply the new focal point of Arab hatred. If it wasn't there, you'd still have endless sectarian violence between the Sunnis and the Shias. The Arabs have been fighting since the dawn of time. To blame it on Israel is ridiculous.

Bingo. Add corrupt government, oppressive religious beliefs, racial discrimination, gender discrimination etc etc absent oil income most of the countries in the Middle East would be cesspools. To call Iraq a first world country prior to the war shows either total stupidity or a political bias so strong as to cloud reasonable judgment....and we know lumpy isn't stupid.
 

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Bingo. Add corrupt government, oppressive religious beliefs, racial discrimination, gender discrimination etc etc absent oil income most of the countries in the Middle East would be cesspools. To call Iraq a first world country prior to the war shows either total stupidity or a political bias so strong as to cloud reasonable judgment....and we know lumpy isn't stupid.
I really doubt if its a political bias unless he is an arab or muslim. Anyway stupidity can be excused.
 

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:eek :24:

So for the thousands of years before Israel existed, the Middle East was a peaceful place? :24:

Israel is simply the new focal point of Arab hatred. If it wasn't there, you'd still have endless sectarian violence between the Sunnis and the Shias. The Arabs have been fighting since the dawn of time. To blame it on Israel is ridiculous.
So for thousands of years Europe has been a peaceful place ??????.:24:
And the U.S.,Euro, has killed how many since the civil war ---total ????.
60 million and far more than that since WW-1.
We never stop .
I would say its been "endless ".
Now days we just travel further to kill.
I have often heard that statement that the Arabs have always fought , how nice to forget that so has everybody else . >f
 
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