It very easily could have damaged our eyes or worse. And they left welts, that's assault. :dunno
Teen expelled-facing criminal charges re: spitballs
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It very easily could have damaged our eyes or worse. And they left welts, that's assault. :dunno
welts......man does this scar u or ur bros to this day hon? Yes I'm being bitchy but I think u r over-reacting
Let me see if I can make my point a little clearer...
If you were to punch someone in the arm (leaving no mark) spit on them, smack them, hit them with a spitball, throw an apple core at them you can be charged with assault. So why should it be any different for kids in school?
These kids that were being used as targets have no rights? They are just suppose to stand there and take it? What message does this send to the other troubled kids that want to get away with this kind of behavior.
You don't need to scar someone to violate their person.
Trust me, if I was shooting these beads at you, you would be screaming your head off at me.
TIM I respectfully disagree with ur take on this matter
So would it be ok for me to do this to you?
will young, dumb and full of cum work better for you, hart?
:surrender:jk :surrenderkid is not naval academy material and that whole bit is probably some fantasy of his father's anyway.
i'm going to respectfully hold the middle ground and agree partly with both of you. tim is right on two main counts. plastic beads are not spitballs. there's a welt reported in the story. a whole lot less intrusion is accepted as cause for a warrant to issue for assault. whether it's prosecutable or not is a separate issue.
i should think a 10 day suspension would have been adequate. taking the teen twit through a trial would be a travesty. i can see torquing him and the father's wallet a little with deferred adjudication contingent on some counselling or community service being a reasonable outcome since it's gone this far.
1500 is a small number. My senior class ALONE there were 7000 kids, not including the rest of the school. Maybe the school this child was in wasn't as small? :dunno: Smaller schools are more able to enforce rules to better suit the students than schools with a larger count. Less kids = more organized staff and faculty.
Just a small point - if this kid did go into officer training and pulled that crap on a senior officer, what do you think would happen to him?
I do understand the punishment of being suspended because the teenager was wrong to do that on school grounds, but I do not agree with pressing criminal charges against him. Then again...he did put himself in that situation and I am sure he has enough common sense to know right from wrong. A bit moronic on his part for even doing it to be quite honest. Schools have been cracking down on students even harder ever since Columbine and yes...for littlest things as well. Just how the system works these days I suppose. You have people who ruin it for others in the near future. Just my own take on things though.
He would be expelled if it's his dream too, to go into officer training school, I don't think he would do something like that, if so, he doesn't belong there.
I still maintain for what he did he does not deserve to be expelled the rest of the year from this school. I know if my son whose 16 was hit by spit balls at school I would not demand the culprit be expelled the rest of the year.
I still maintain for what he did he does not deserve to be expelled the rest of the year from this school. I know if my son whose 16 was hit by spit balls at school I would not demand the culprit be expelled the rest of the year.
Try to imagine if you will....
This young man started out with rubber bands...... then the plastic spitballs...... Next? perhaps a be be gun.... then a pellet gun.... then a shotgun.... then a.....
People tend to look at other youngsters 'criminal behavior' starts in past episodes of random acts of aggression. Best to nip said aggressor's in the proverbial bud as it were.
This young man started out with rubber bands...... then the plastic spitballs...... Next? perhaps a be be gun.... then a pellet gun.... then a shotgun.... then a.....
People tend to look at other youngsters 'criminal behavior' starts in past episodes of random acts of aggression. Best to nip said aggressor's in the proverbial bud as it were.
That's fair. He was a bully, bullies should be ostracized.
Interesting situation.
I understand with Tim somewhat. Kids are allowed to get away with lots in a school environment that they wouldn't get away with outside school. The only thing is, if you slap this kid with criminal charges, than you have to do the same with every student who commits something that falls under the criteria of a criminal act.
I understand with Tim somewhat. Kids are allowed to get away with lots in a school environment that they wouldn't get away with outside school. The only thing is, if you slap this kid with criminal charges, than you have to do the same with every student who commits something that falls under the criteria of a criminal act.
Ostracized and castrated*
I agree :clap
Expelled is very harsh...It puts one behind and the kid 'wins' as he doesnt have to go to school..this is my main concern..."Is it really punishment?"...possibly not...but if it is..then it is to much.
Tim posts have good points..but I want to take that a step further...prosecute the kid if need be...but dont kick him out of school.
State requires us to go to school...but then kicks us out of school?..makes no sense
Tim posts have good points..but I want to take that a step further...prosecute the kid if need be...but dont kick him out of school.
State requires us to go to school...but then kicks us out of school?..makes no sense
the pea shooter as a gateway weapon? please. that argument doesn't work for marijuana either.
I can see why people might want to punish the teenager to the max, so to speak, but it is a bit outlandish to compare rubber bands and spitballs to the use of firearms in the near future. I, personally, have used Banana Buzzers when I was in school and did not grow up to start "Busting Caps" in people's butts. That argument reminds me of adults and the FCC trying to blame games for teenagers committing violence in our society. The blame, in my opinion, falls with some parents and our societies environment. Just because you prevent rubber bands, spitballs, video games, and television does not mean they will not see it once they step out the door or even at home. If we really want to try and decrease the teenage violence then we should do something very simple. Grow up and start acting like adults. It is what we do as adults that teach the next generation what is and is not alright to do. The problem is that, like a song once said, there is simply "...more villains than heroes..." and most teenagers find being a "villain" more appealing. Just my own take on it though.
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You are quite right on this point. I know my school did not have out of school suspension. It was basically solitary and they gave you tons of work to keep up. So you got no break at all.