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All Else Failed

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Was the tree thing not enough for you? C'mon man... it's past my bedtime and I'm tired. ;)


"Can you not see the value in looking at something, say for instance a tree, and see it not as just a tree, but as everything it is?"



^^^^ all of that is very vague. I can look at a tree and see it as its primary form: A tree. But I can also see it for its bark, limbs, leaves, roots, fruit etc etc. Is this what you meant?
 
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You don't have to like it, but please try to respect someone else's way of thinking, even if you don't agree.
it's not one of his strong points.

And I think we're intertwining "labeling" people with "identifying" trees.

to wit: that thingy with all the leaves and branches and roots and bark and stuff? we can identify that as a tree - that's its identification. If you want to call that a label in the context of this discussion, then one is belaboring the interesting point trying to be made by the OP and thereby muddying the clear waters of intelligent debate and turn it into a staggeringly preposterous and humiliating internet argument. That's one of AEF's many strong points.

Now, you see that girl over there? She fucks. A lot. She's a female. That's what you've identified her as - a female. Now, if you decide to call her a slut, then you have moved well beyond the simple clarity of calling her what she is (whether she fucks like a beast or not) which is a female, and you have LABELED her as something beyond that, in this case something derogatory - a slut.

What satin is saying is that she does not label people in that manner, and wishes that others would follow suit. I agree. I believe she is correct in saying that our need to label things in this way limits us. I loathe labels, and spurn them at every opportunity.

Why is Barack Obama considered an African American? He's half white! Because he's being labeled as such. Why are liberals liberals and conservatives conservatives? Why are women who fuck a lot sluts and men who fuck a lot studs? Because people label them that way.

That's the point being made. Don't fuck it up by bringing in a bunch of tangential definitions that in reality have nothing to do with the original point anyway and then argue those to a gnat's eyebrow.

Sheesh.
 

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it's not one of his strong points.

And I think we're intertwining "labeling" people with "identifying" trees.

to wit: that thingy with all the leaves and branches and roots and bark and stuff? we can identify that as a tree - that's its identification. If you want to call that a label in the context of this discussion, then one is belaboring the interesting point trying to be made by the OP and thereby muddying the clear waters of intelligent debate and turn it into a staggeringly preposterous and humiliating internet argument. That's one of AEF's many strong points.

Now, you see that girl over there? She fucks. A lot. She's a female. That's what you've identified her as - a female. Now, if you decide to call her a slut, then you have moved well beyond the simple clarity of calling her what she is (whether she fucks like a beast or not) which is a female, and you have LABELED her as something beyond that, in this case something derogatory - a slut.

What satin is saying is that she does not label people in that manner, and wishes that others would follow suit. I agree. I believe she is correct in saying that our need to label things in this way limits us. I loathe labels, and spurn them at every opportunity.

Why is Barack Obama considered an African American? He's half white! Because he's being labeled as such. Why are liberals liberals and conservatives conservatives? Why are women who fuck a lot sluts and men who fuck a lot studs? Because people label them that way.

That's the point being made. Don't fuck it up by bringing in a bunch of tangential definitions that in reality have nothing to do with the original point anyway and then argue those to a gnat's eyebrow.

Sheesh.

Exactly. Thank you!!! :bowdown:
 

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it's not one of his strong points.

And I think we're intertwining "labeling" people with "identifying" trees.

to wit: that thingy with all the leaves and branches and roots and bark and stuff? we can identify that as a tree - that's its identification. If you want to call that a label in the context of this discussion, then one is belaboring the interesting point trying to be made by the OP and thereby muddying the clear waters of intelligent debate and turn it into a staggeringly preposterous and humiliating internet argument. That's one of AEF's many strong points.

Now, you see that girl over there? She fucks. A lot. She's a female. That's what you've identified her as - a female. Now, if you decide to call her a slut, then you have moved well beyond the simple clarity of calling her what she is (whether she fucks like a beast or not) which is a female, and you have LABELED her as something beyond that, in this case something derogatory - a slut.

What satin is saying is that she does not label people in that manner, and wishes that others would follow suit. I agree. I believe she is correct in saying that our need to label things in this way limits us. I loathe labels, and spurn them at every opportunity.

Why is Barack Obama considered an African American? He's half white! Because he's being labeled as such. Why are liberals liberals and conservatives conservatives? Why are women who fuck a lot sluts and men who fuck a lot studs? Because people label them that way.

That's the point being made. Don't fuck it up by bringing in a bunch of tangential definitions that in reality have nothing to do with the original point anyway and then argue those to a gnat's eyebrow.

Sheesh.
label
n 1: a brief description given for purposes of identification;
"the label Modern is applied to many different kinds of
architecture"
2: trade name of a company that produces musical recordings;
"the artists and repertoire department of a recording
label is responsible for finding new talent" [syn: {recording label}]
3: a radioactive isotope that is used in a compound in order to
trace the mechanism of a chemical reaction
4: an identifying or descriptive marker that is attached to an
object

v 1: assign a label to; designate with a label; "These students
were labelled `learning disabled'"
2: attach a tag or label to; "label these bottles" [syn: {tag},
{mark}]

3: pronounce judgment on; "They labeled him unfit to work here"
[syn: {pronounce}, {judge}]
4: distinguish (as a compound or molecule) by introducing a
labeled atom
5: distinguish (an element or atom) by using a radioactive
isotope or an isotope of unusual mass for tracing through
chemical reactions
[also: {labelling}, {labelled}]



labels are inherently needed for identification and differentiation of any sort.

try again ol' chum




P.S. when you Identify something you label it as such. We know the difference between males and females, we identify them as being different and we label each sex differently so we can relate it.
 

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I know MANY a slut..

and they deserve the term slut..

If you're going to go sleep around with a whole bunch of men, that's being slutty. It's just a fact of life..

There is no other term (for someone who sleeps around) that works as well as SLUT.
 

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That's the point being made. Don't fuck it up by bringing in a bunch of tangential definitions that in reality have nothing to do with the original point anyway and then argue those to a gnat's eyebrow.


label
n 1: a brief description given for purposes of identification;
"the label Modern is applied to many different kinds of
architecture"
2: trade name of a company that produces musical recordings;
"the artists and repertoire department of a recording
label is responsible for finding new talent" [syn: {recording label}]
3: a radioactive isotope that is used in a compound in order to
trace the mechanism of a chemical reaction
4: an identifying or descriptive marker that is attached to an
object

v 1: assign a label to; designate with a label; "These students
were labelled `learning disabled'"
2: attach a tag or label to; "label these bottles" [syn: {tag},
{mark}]

3: pronounce judgment on; "They labeled him unfit to work here"
[syn: {pronounce}, {judge}]
4: distinguish (as a compound or molecule) by introducing a
labeled atom
5: distinguish (an element or atom) by using a radioactive
isotope or an isotope of unusual mass for tracing through
chemical reactions
[also: {labelling}, {labelled}]

LMFAO!!! Ah well... you can lead a horse to water... :shrug:
 

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you....do realize what I was getting at there, didn't you? Obviously not.

GP was making a distinction between labels and identifications, when really, labels MUST BE MADE after identifications.
 

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all I know is the fucking sluts always ignored me :willy_nilly:

I would have loved to get hit on by sluts back in the day :D

Now they think I am just a dirty old man :D

damn Bitches :D
 

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lol... well hopefully that kept you from all the horrible diseases they have...


:sarcasm

I have posted a story a few days ago about that

I dodged a bullet.

My roomate tried to hook me up one night at the bar he was a bouncer at.

I said no.

He borrowed the keys to my car and came back with.....................

something he did not arrive with. :24:

I laughed my fucking ass of as he had one horny fiance. He had a lot of excuses to beg off sex while the meds took effect :24:
 

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I have posted a story a few days ago about that

I dodged a bullet.

My roomate tried to hook me up one night at the bar he was a bouncer at.

I said no.

He borrowed the keys to my car and came back with.....................

something he did not arrive with. :24:

I laughed my fucking ass of as he had one horny fiance. He had a lot of excuses to beg off sex while the meds took effect :24:

Ah well... karma's a bitch eh? :cool

Glad you were able to dodge that bullet.

I rather enjoy my bullet... :D
 

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You just missed his point entirely... which is entirely expected, and therefore amusing.
no see if you and GP want to willingly ignore the importance of semantics and the meaning of words (yeah, those two things are pretty damn important) then you will not see where I am coming from.
 

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no see if you and GP want to willingly ignore the importance of semantics and the meaning of words (yeah, those two things are pretty damn important) then you will not see where I am coming from.

To you they're important... please try to refrain from speaking for everyone. Not everyone thinks the way you do, and that's just something you're going to have to live with. Shake it off. ;)
 
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