Should fat people have to pay double?

[daniellllleee]

This is a completely ridiculous debate here, haha.
You cannot take a fucking yard stick to someone's ass and see how much room they're going to need and pay accordingly.

Seriously?
SERIOUSLY?
Good god. It's not like overweight people are like, "Man, I'm going to become really fat so that I can use up two seats." Quit trying to punish people for being fat.
It's completely stupid.
If I were too big for a seat, and they asked me to pay extra, I'd punch that bastard in the face.

 

[Dana]

This is a completely ridiculous debate here, haha.
You cannot take a fucking yard stick to someone's ass and see how much room they're going to need and pay accordingly.

People would probably claim molestation... Personally if it's a woman she can use a ruler to my backside all she wants.

 

[Strauss]

Now how to determine manage and administer that and not get hammered for discrimination?? Hmm. :humm:

:24::24:


Seriously though there is NO way you're going to get a fat person to pay for two seats without someone suing for discrimination and then it would never fly.

With a few minor exceptions its not against the law to discriminate against fat people. Fat is not a protected class. The optics, however, are not good.

 

[Dana]

With a few minor exceptions its not against the law to discriminate against fat people. Fat is not a protected class. The optics, however, are not good.

People have sued for a lot stupider things. If someone tried to do this and you think itd go over without a hitch you're dreaming. I don't see what makes discriminating overweight people any different than discriminating against anyone else. If fact if it were me I'd make a point to complain about it.

 

[Meirionnydd]

Hmm.. Here in Brisbane we use a 'zone' system for public transport. i.e. The farer you travel, the more you pay for a fare. You can also buy daily tickets, which allow you to travel on any bus or train, provided you're in the right zone/s.

With that being said, the issue of a fat person paying double is kind of a moot point here. You're not paying for the seat. Rather, you're paying to travel through the designated zones in the city... well, that's my take on it at least.

And it would seem kind of hypocritical for fat people to be charged double, considering that in many cases driver of the bus is overweight.

 

[Tyler Durden]

And it would seem kind of hypocritical for fat people to be charged double, considering that in many cases driver of the bus is overweight.

LMFAO :24:

 

[daniellllleee]

And it would seem kind of hypocritical for fat people to be charged double, considering that in many cases driver of the bus is overweight.

So does that mean they get twice the paycheck?
I think I need to hit up Dunkin Donuts.

 

[Makedde]

Reason i ask is, i was on the bus earlier and there was this fat guy behind me, he took up two seats. Now, my understanding of the laws of a bus ticket is that it entitles you to one seat on the bus, not two. Which is what this guy was taking up. The price of a ticket on the one i was on is £1.60, he should by rights have paid £3.20.

Fat people should pay for two seats if they take up two seats. Not my fault they got themselves fat.

 

[daniellllleee]

I disagree with that.

Obviously it's not YOUR fault, but how do you know it was their fault? Some people have serious health issues, or some other reasonable explanation.
Basically what I'm saying is, not all fat people are out buying six cheeseburgers thinking 'Ahaha! I will get two seats for the price of one!'

 

[Haus]

well everything is about money now adays. now if you got buses like the ones we got here where you cant stand up where you must sit down when riding the bus or train. if its of peak hours then i dont see the problem but when you get to peak hours likie early morning, early afternoon or early evening. and the buses are usually full. then yes i can see why they would ask for 2 payments. cause your taking up 2 spots and not allowing full amount of fares. and all they care is the bottom line.

Do i understand why they do it. Absolutely. do i think its right. Absolutely Not.

 

[Keight]

Here's the point!!!!!! His weight has nothing to do with your complaint. You could have easily said what makes it ok for people to take up two seats. And left it. You have no right to comment on someone else's weight when you aren't at perfect weight yourself.

I am So :homo: On this one.

you cant say because someone is fat they require two seats they should pay double, stating that they are big enough to fit two seats is kinda lame too.

Would you ask yourself the same question if the guy sitting behind you was a a body builder? Or a pregnant woman needing two seats because of the comfort factor?

 

[Keight]

Fat people should pay for two seats if they take up two seats. Not my fault they got themselves fat.

And switch the concern back to you, if you were said "fat person" would you feel at all upset about the fact you had to pay for two seats?


Im not liking this thread one little bit and alot of you are judging right away without taking anything into consideration. :mad

 

[Strauss]

People have sued for a lot stupider things. If someone tried to do this and you think itd go over without a hitch you're dreaming. I don't see what makes discriminating overweight people any different than discriminating against anyone else. If fact if it were me I'd make a point to complain about it.

Discrimination, absent legislation, is not actionable. So unless there is specific legislation that protects fat people as a class a lawsuit suing for discrimination based upon being fat would not survive a motion to dismiss. Complain all you want, it doesn't change the outcome.
Do not read that as me supporting discrimination against fat people. I'm just telling you the status of the law......fat people unlike people of color are not a protected class.

 

[flipx]

So does that mean they get twice the paycheck?
I think I need to hit up Dunkin Donuts.

Why would they get twice the paycheck? lol.. If people who are 'fat' have to pay double to be seated on a bus, then ultimately the bus driver would then get half his paycheck for being overweight. Think you got it mixed up there.

I disagree with that.

Obviously it's not YOUR fault, but how do you know it was their fault? Some people have serious health issues, or some other reasonable explanation.
Basically what I'm saying is, not all fat people are out buying six cheeseburgers thinking 'Ahaha! I will get two seats for the price of one!'

Most of the time, it is their fault. Food is their comfort, and that's all they do. They don't work, they seek disability benefits from your tax payers money, and laze around all day, every day, eating shit.
If they have a serious health issue, they should/could show some form of disabled badge that we have here in the UK, for disabled, or elderly people parking in disabled parking spaces. It could work the exact same way for people on public transport. Just a random thought though, not saying that's the way it should be or anything.

And switch the concern back to you, if you were said "fat person" would you feel at all upset about the fact you had to pay for two seats?


Im not liking this thread one little bit and alot of you are judging right away without taking anything into consideration. :mad

They aren't a "fat person" though lol.. that's the whole point here. I do agree with you that there may be some judgmental statements being made. But I think the people in here are talking solely about overweight people that know they are overweight, and don't have any health issues relating to being overweight. They are talking about the lazy people, that just keep on eating, and doing nothing else, like work, or exercise etc.

 

[Meirionnydd]

Most of the time, it is their fault. Food is their comfort, and that's all they do. They don't work, they seek disability benefits from your tax payers money, and laze around all day, every day, eating shit.

Lol... nice generalisation there... =\

In most western countries about half of the population is overweight... yet... I don't see the unemployment rates here hovering around 50%...

 

[flipx]

Lol... nice generalisation there... =\

In most western countries about half of the population is overweight... yet... I don't see the unemployment rates here hovering around 50%...

I was talking about people who are more obese here, people who are obese can't and don't really have any form of exercise, let alone a job, or career.

Yes, overweight. Big difference between being 'overweight', and being 'obese'.

 

[Meirionnydd]

Yes, overweight. Big difference between being 'overweight', and being 'obese'.

You're still making generalisations.

In North America about 33% of adults are obese, but yet they all aren't unemployed (not yet anyway) and laze around everyday at home 'eating shit', are they?

 

[flipx]

You're still making generalisations.

In North America about 33% of adults are obese, but yet they all aren't unemployed (not yet anyway) and laze around everyday at home 'eating shit', are they?

Am I? From what you said, I'm not generalising. I think you may have missed out the part in bold:

"Most of the time, it is their fault. Food is their comfort, and that's all they do. They don't work, they seek disability benefits from your tax payers money, and laze around all day, every day, eating shit."

I never said "all" are unemployed. Please take the time to read everything first, before replying.

 

[Meirionnydd]

Am I? From what you said, I'm not generalising. I think you may have missed out the part in bold:

I never said "all" are unemployed. Please take the time to read everything first, before replying.

Yeahh... Then you said.. 'people who are obese can't and don't really have any form of exercise, let alone a job, or career'

Where is the 'most' in that? You are generalising.

You're taking a group of people (overweight/obese) and saying that 'most' are all fat losers who are unemployed and 'don't do shit' without providing any evidence for such claim, means you are just making wild generalisations... Do you personally know all of the obese people on this planet and can say that most of them are lazy and unemployed?.. Didn't think so.

Can you point to empirical evidence that backs up your claim?... Didn't think so either.

So yes, you are making generalisations.

 

[Dana]

Fat people should pay for two seats if they take up two seats. Not my fault they got themselves fat.

You lost cool points. I've been fat all my life, I didn't "get" myself fat. It's just how I've always been. ANDS yet again someone who has no idea how the human body works. Oh and again HE'S ON A BUS THE FARE ISN'T FOR SEATING!