Religion: Which One Is Right?

[Godsloveapples]

I had to laugh how apparently the fact that all the islamic prophets had apparent "miracles" makes that religion true.

Laugh? Who would believe the prophets if they didn't have a miracle to show that they're sent by God?

Jesus came with alot of miracles, is christianity true too?

Yes, Christianity is true too. The Prophet Muhammad didn't start a new religion, but he restored the original monotheistic faith of Abraham, Moses, Jesus, and the other prophets.

 

[The Joker]

So you're saying that Islamicc faith is the correct religion, but so is christianity?

 

[Godsloveapples]

So you're saying that Islamicc faith is the correct religion, but so is christianity?

No. Christianity WAS the correct religion until God sent the Prophet Muhammad with the Quran. Islam then became the correct religion. Let me explain: During the seventh century when Muhammad was sent, there were only a few groups of followers of the original message and teachings of the Prophet Jesus. The Bible revealed to Jesus no longer existed in any from, as was the case of the Torah of the Prophet Moses before him. They were replaced with the Old and New Testaments written by different human authors selected and sanctioned as holy by the Church ecumenical councils, several centuries after the departure of Jesus. It was high time then to re-establish the eternal guidance of the creator to all humanity, but this time in a final eternal form, through the Holy Quran and the detailed teachings of the Prophet Muhammad. While the Prophet Jesus was sent specifically to the Israelites, the Prophet Muhammad was sent to all humanity.

 

[Panic]

So many of them, a lot so passionate they are right they want toblow the others heads off so which one is right?

*Dons tin hat*:ninja

Peter likes to ponder the mysteries of the universe. *sits next to Peter and ponders*

 

[Peter Parka]

No. Christianity WAS the correct religion until God sent the Prophet Muhammad with the Quran. Islam then became the correct religion. Let me explain: During the seventh century when Muhammad was sent, there were only a few groups of followers of the original message and teachings of the Prophet Jesus. The Bible revealed to Jesus no longer existed in any from, as was the case of the Torah of the Prophet Moses before him. They were replaced with the Old and New Testaments written by different human authors selected and sanctioned as holy by the Church ecumenical councils, several centuries after the departure of Jesus. It was high time then to re-establish the eternal guidance of the creator to all humanity, but this time in a final eternal form, through the Holy Quran and the detailed teachings of the Prophet Muhammad. While the Prophet Jesus was sent specifically to the Israelites, the Prophet Muhammad was sent to all humanity.

Ah, a book said so, I'm convinced. Actually no I'm not, I read Lord of the Rings so I'm waiting for Aragorn to return and claim his throne of Gondor instead.

 

[Wookiegirl]

i think as long as God is the basis of your religion - whichever it is, you're in the good book.

i think a lot of the religion is so corrupt that it would be hard to say any of them are the true church.

my relationship with God is a personal one and i don't believe that i need to participate in any organized religion to be heard by Him.

 

[Wookiegirl]

Ah, a book said so, I'm convinced. Actually no I'm not, I read Lord of the Rings so I'm waiting for Aragorn to return and claim his throne of Gondor instead.

:24::24::24::24:

 

[Godsloveapples]

Ah, a book said so, I'm convinced. Actually no I'm not, I read Lord of the Rings so I'm waiting for Aragorn to return and claim his throne of Gondor instead.

The Holy Quran isn't just a book, it's the word of God and I gave proof that it's correct.

 

[Peter Parka]

The Holy Quran isn't just a book, it's the word of God and I gave proof that it's correct.

There is no proof it's the word of God

 

[Godsloveapples]

There is no proof it's the word of God

Yes there is. If you read the whole post I posted then you would see that the Quran is indeed the word of Allah.

 

[Peter Parka]

Yes there is. If you read the whole post I posted then you would see that the Quran is indeed the word of Allah.

See this is what I find strange about religion, it makes intelligent people so irrational. If you believe it because of your arguements, fair enough but what you put has nothing to do with facts. Your dogmatic statementthat what you put is proof is just simply not correct whatever you chooose to believe. I personally believe in a god but it's not a fact, it just seems the most likely thingto me personally, I'd never go around making sweepingstatements that it is a fact becuse it simply isn't.

 

[Godsloveapples]

See this is what I find strange about religion, it makes intelligent people so irrational. If you believe it because of your arguements, fair enough but what you put has nothing to do with facts. Your dogmatic statementthat what you put is proof is just simply not correct whatever you chooose to believe. I personally believe in a god but it's not a fact, it just seems the most likely thingto me personally, I'd never go around making sweepingstatements that it is a fact becuse it simply isn't.

I wonder, how do you believe in a God while at the same time denying his existence?
What makes you think that the proof I provided is false?

 

[Panic]

Yes there is. If you read the whole post I posted then you would see that the Quran is indeed the word of Allah.

And all this time all those people have been worshipping Jesus and Buddha! It's a good thing you came along! Thank you for showing us the way!

 

[Minor Axis]

The Holy Quran isn't just a book, it's the word of God and I gave proof that it's correct.

That's your belief, your faith, but there is no proof as much as you'd like it to be. And no offense, I don't begrudge you your beliefs.

 

[NicAuf]

None of them.

I second that.

 

[Peter Parka]

I wonder, how do you believe in a God while at the same time denying his existence?
What makes you think that the proof I provided is false?

I think you should read my comments properly before commenting. I never denied his existance, there's just no proof he dose exist, the same as there's no proof he dosen't.

 

[The Joker]

Yes there is. If you read the whole post I posted then you would see that the Quran is indeed the word of Allah.

If you read the bible, you see that it's the word of God.

If you read ANY religious book, you'll see it's the word of their god(s)

What you posted is STRICTLY not proof.

I could post that I have 3 arms, 4 legs and 16 eyes, this will NEVER be considered proof, because there is NO way to tell whether it is true or not. However, IF I posted a picture of said mutation, THAT would be proof.

No. Christianity WAS the correct religion until God sent the Prophet Muhammad with the Quran. Islam then became the correct religion. Let me explain: During the seventh century when Muhammad was sent, there were only a few groups of followers of the original message and teachings of the Prophet Jesus. The Bible revealed to Jesus no longer existed in any from, as was the case of the Torah of the Prophet Moses before him. They were replaced with the Old and New Testaments written by different human authors selected and sanctioned as holy by the Church ecumenical councils, several centuries after the departure of Jesus. It was high time then to re-establish the eternal guidance of the creator to all humanity, but this time in a final eternal form, through the Holy Quran and the detailed teachings of the Prophet Muhammad. While the Prophet Jesus was sent specifically to the Israelites, the Prophet Muhammad was sent to all humanity.

It's still funny that you believe because a book said it, it must be true.

And along with that, Is God=Allah? No, he's not. 'God' is a completely seperate 'divine being' to 'Allah'. Allah IS a 'God' but Allah IS NOT 'God'. And tell me, do not BOTH of the teachings specifically say not to worship ANY other god but the god of that religion? Given they're monotheistic? So therefore, you are COMPLETELY contradicting yourself in saying both are true. It is only possible for ONE religion to be true.

 

[Godsloveapples]

I think you should read my comments properly before commenting. I never denied his existance, there's just no proof he dose exist, the same as there's no proof he dosen't.

Yes, I should. Thanks for clarifying it.
Could you please tell me why you think the proof I provided is false??

 

[Peter Parka]

Yes, I should. Thanks for clarifying it.
Could you please tell me why you think the proof I provided is false??

Because it's just out of some book

 

[Godsloveapples]

If you read the bible, you see that it's the word of God.

If you read ANY religious book, you'll see it's the word of their god(s)

What you posted is STRICTLY not proof.


I could post that I have 3 arms, 4 legs and 16 eyes, this will NEVER be considered proof, because there is NO way to tell whether it is true or not. However, IF I posted a picture of said mutation, THAT would be proof.

It's still funny that you believe because a book said it, it must be true

I wouldn't believe ANY religious book unless it has a miracle to prove that it's true. The Holy Quran is the word of Allah. Allah sent the holy angel Jibril to reveal the Holy Quran to the Prophet Muhammad and it was written on paper so it could be preserved.
Let me tell you what I consider PROOF to be. Proof must be a miracle (an effect or extraordinary event in the physical world that surpasses all known human or natural powers and is ascribed to a supernatural cause). I would not follow the religion of Islam if it didn't have a miracle; and Islam DOES have a miracle to prove that it's correct, and that miracle is the Holy Quran.

How is the Holy Quran a miracle?
1-The Qu'ran is an untouchable book : After 1400 years, from the
begining of Prophet Muhammad's, peace be upon him, message, the
Qu'ran has not changed in any way, even as a matter of one character.
Proving this is very easy, since you can compare all the versions of
the Qu'ran everywhere in the world and you will find them all the
same. God ensured that this book would be saved from any changes
attempted by human beings. God said in the Qur'an : " We have,
without doubt, sent down the Message; and We will assuredly guard it
(from corruption)" (Holy Quran 15:9)

2- The Qu'ran contains many scientific facts that have been
discovered recently using computer systems and microscopes. Many
scientists have attended conferences dealing with this subject and
have themselves accepted Islam. These same scientists have said that
it is not possible that the Prohpet Muhammad, peace be upon him, an illiterate
man, who lived 1400 years ago, could have discovered such things on
his own. God said in the Qur'an : "Soon will We show them Our Signs
in the (furthest) regions (of the earth), and in their own souls,
until it becomes manifest to them that this is the Truth. Is it not
enough that thy Lord doth witness all things" (Holy Quran 41:53)

3- The Qu'ran, which is in Arabic, was revealed to the people of
the Arabian Gulf who invented the Arabic language. Through the Prohpet Muhammad,
peace be upon him, Allah challenged the people who claimed that a
human wrote it to emulate such a book. No one from the time of the
Prophet till now could write a book that contained the many
scientific facts, miracles and similar effects on people that the
Qu'ran did and still does today. “Say (O Muhammad) if mankind and jinn were to come together
to produce something like this Qur’ân, they would not be able to do so,
even if they were to help one another.” (Holy Quran 17: 88)
“Or they say: ‘He has forged it.’ Say: ‘Then bring ten forged
chapters like it and If then they do not answer you, know that it is
sent down with the Knowledge of Allah, besides Whom there is no other
God. Will you then be Muslims?” (Holy Quran 11:13)

4-The Qu'ran had not one Arabic grammar mistake, which was
recognized by the disbelievers at the time of the Prophet, who were
the founders of the Arabic language.

Say: "O People of the Book! Why reject ye the Signs of
Allah, when Allah is Himself witness to all ye do? (Holy Quran 3:98)

And along with that, Is God=Allah? No, he's not. 'God' is a completely seperate 'divine being' to 'Allah'. Allah IS a 'God' but Allah IS NOT 'God'. And tell me, do not BOTH of the teachings specifically say not to worship ANY other god but the god of that religion? Given they're monotheistic? So therefore, you are COMPLETELY contradicting yourself in saying both are true. It is only possible for ONE religion to be true.

Think what you want, but I believe that there is only one God and Allah is Him. Yes, both teachings do specifically say not to worship ANY other god but the god of that religion. Allah is the God of both religions. You see, Allah sent religions for different times and for different people of different mental levels and cultures. When Allah sent Islam by the Prophet Muhammad, Christians should have followed the Prophet Muhammad and converted to Islam instead because the time they were living in needed different requirements and Islam fit those requirements.
And argue not with the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians), unless it be in (a way)
that is better (with good words and in good manner, inviting them to
Islamic Monotheism with His Verses), except those of them who do wrong,
and say (to them): "We believe in that which has been revealed
to us and revealed to you; our God and your God is One (Allah),
and to Him we have submitted (as Muslims)."(Holy Quran 29:46)