Religion- God

dt3 · Sep 10, 2007

Suzie said:
Oh Donnie... I <3 you!

Love ya too Suzie :ninja

All Else Failed · Sep 10, 2007

it would actually be interesting to see someone try to prove god's supposed existence through the bible.

dt3 · Sep 10, 2007

HouseOvaries said:
Me too...so bored. Waiting patiently for a smart response...waiting. =/

I'm waiting on an intelligent post from you.

HouseOvaries · Sep 10, 2007

All Else Failed said:
it would actually be interesting to see someone try to prove god's supposed existence through the bible.

Exactly. All of these people try to follow the book and shit, but they don't know they were getting brainwashed. Who wrote the book? Some dude did...a bullshitter to be exact. He writes this huge book of religious crap just to make people believe it. Why do they believe it? Who knows...

All Else Failed · Sep 10, 2007

HouseOvaries said:
Exactly. All of these people try to follow the book and shit, but they don't know they were getting brainwashed. Who wrote the book? Some dude did...a bullshitter to be exact. He writes this huge book of religious crap just to make people believe it. Why do they believe it? Who knows...

Well, most of the bible was written by several people, but they remain anonymous, most of the gospels were just given names when it was compiled at the council of Nicene.

HouseOvaries · Sep 10, 2007

All Else Failed said:
Well, most of the bible was written by several people, but they remain anonymous, most of the gospels were just given names when it was compiled at the council of Nicene.

But the point is that it was completely made up! No proof is to be found...yet.

TheOriginalJames · Sep 10, 2007

HouseOvaries said:
I think god is fake. The bible also has no proof that he exists either, because the info inside is false.

um... prove that it is false and then i'll be able to accept your personal opinion (which is stated as a fact)

All Else Failed · Sep 10, 2007

HouseOvaries said:
But the point is that it was completely made up! No proof is to be found...yet.

SOME things in the bible can be found in history, and SOME dates are correct, but thats just because when they were written by the anonymous authors they put those events into the gospel in order for people to relate.

Homer · Sep 10, 2007

HouseOvaries said:
Exactly. All of these people try to follow the book and shit, but they don't know they were getting brainwashed. Who wrote the book? Some dude did...a bullshitter to be exact. He writes this huge book of religious crap just to make people believe it. Why do they believe it? Who knows...

just when you thought it couldn't get any worse.:clap

HouseOvaries · Sep 10, 2007

TheOriginalJames said:
um... prove that it is false and then i'll be able to accept your personal opinion (which is stated as a fact)

you can't prove it! That's the point!

All Else Failed · Sep 10, 2007

TheOriginalJames said:
um... prove that it is false and then i'll be able to accept your personal opinion (which is stated as a fact)

Its actually not on him to prove that your own holy book is false or otherwise. The people that claim it to be "true" have the burden of proof on them.

TheOriginalJames · Sep 10, 2007

All Else Failed said:
Its actually not on him to prove that your own holy book is false or otherwise. The people that claim it to be "true" have the burden of proof on them.

It's not 'my book'. But to counter you with your own statement. You can't make a statement as he without providing examples and proof of his statements.

One who makes the statements needs to back the statements with reasons.

TheOriginalJames · Sep 10, 2007

HouseOvaries said:
Exactly. All of these people try to follow the book and shit, but they don't know they were getting brainwashed. Who wrote the book? Some dude did...a bullshitter to be exact. He writes this huge book of religious crap just to make people believe it. Why do they believe it? Who knows...

The bible was actually written by several people. This is why there are several books with different names in the bible.

You know like matthew, mark, luke, john, james, etc.

Obviously you just wanted to pick a fight and my being damn near completely athiest I don't really care either way, but when you make opinions in a debate thread you need to back up your statements.

HouseOvaries said:
they're morons???

This is not proper for a debate thread. This is your opinion.

I'm overall in agreeance with Donnie on this one. You want to start shit with bible thumpers, but I think they'd just be wasting their time with you.

HouseOvaries · Sep 10, 2007

TheOriginalJames said:
The bible was actually written by several people. This is why there are several books with different names in the bible.

You know like matthew, mark, luke, john, james, etc.

Obviously you just wanted to pick a fight and my being damn near completely athiest I don't really care either way, but when you make opinions in a debate thread you need to back up your statements.

This is not proper for a debate thread. This is your opinion.

I'm overall in agreeance with Donnie on this one. You want to start shit with bible thumpers, but I think they'd just be wasting their time with you.

Ok................

All Else Failed · Sep 10, 2007

TheOriginalJames said:
It's not 'my book'. But to counter you with your own statement. You can't make a statement as he without providing examples and proof of his statements.

One who makes the statements needs to back the statements with reasons.

I agree that he should have used examples, but ultimately, its up to the believer to provide sound evidence that what they claim to believe is indeed real in a discussion.

If someone was claiming to have powers that mad the dead walk, it would be up to the person making the claim to provide evidence, the people being told have no obligation to try to disprove it or believe it.

TheOriginalJames · Sep 10, 2007

The believer has no burdon to prove anything to this nonbeliever. There were so many more tactfull ways to go about this. Hell, this guy makes you look like a saint, and I absolutely hate the way you debate AEF.

All Else Failed · Sep 10, 2007

TheOriginalJames said:
The believer has no burdon to prove anything to this nonbeliever. There were so many more tactfull ways to go about this. Hell, this guy makes you look like a saint, and I absolutely hate the way you debate AEF.

Yes, they do. If you claim somehting to be true, you are intellectually obliged to back your beliefs up in the public setting if you claim for them to be fact.

What do you dislike about my debating?

TheOriginalJames · Sep 10, 2007

All Else Failed said:
Yes, they do. If you claim somehting to be true, you are intellectually obliged to back your beliefs up in the public setting if you claim for them to be fact.

What do you dislike about my debating?

You never look at anyone elses point of view. You're always right, and you can never come to an understanding. Then you just continue to state the same thing over and over again.

Anyway, the believer isn't the one making any claims or opinions in this thread. The nonbeliever is, therefore it is up to the nonbeliever to give his claims a reason and proof to back up his claims.

Only after this happens can a believer rebutt the claims with an opposing view.

Or did you forget how a real debate works?

HouseOvaries · Sep 10, 2007

Let him post his opinion James and the Giant Douche.

TheOriginalJames · Sep 10, 2007

Debating isn't about opinions, it's about facts.

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