Reagan Killed the Middle Class 30 Years Ago

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Johnfromokc

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I believe he did. Yes, Saint Ronnie, the oft praised conservative icon. But he didn't do it alone. The labor unions rolled over and let him. We, the working class rolled over and let it happen. And we, the working class, 80% of all Americans, continue to let it happen by by remaining ignorant and voting against our own best financial interests.

From time to time, someone under 30 will ask me, "When did this all begin, America's downward slide?" They say they've heard of a time when working people could raise a family and send the kids to college on just one parent's income (and that college in states like California and New York was almost free). That anyone who wanted a decent paying job could get one. That people only worked five days a week, eight hours a day, got the whole weekend off and had a paid vacation every summer. That many jobs were union jobs, from baggers at the grocery store to the guy painting your house, and this meant that no matter how "lowly" your job was you had guarantees of a pension, occasional raises, health insurance and someone to stick up for you if you were unfairly treated.

Young people have heard of this mythical time -- but it was no myth, it was real. And when they ask, "When did this all end?", I say, "It ended on this day: August 5th, 1981."

Beginning on this date, 30 years ago, Big Business and the Right Wing decided to "go for it" -- to see if they could actually destroy the middle class so that they could become richer themselves.
And they've succeeded.

On August 5, 1981, President Ronald Reagan fired every member of the air traffic controllers union (PATCO) who'd defied his order to return to work and declared their union illegal. They had been on strike for just two days.

It was a bold and brash move. No one had ever tried it. What made it even bolder was that PATCO was one of only three unions that had endorsed Reagan for president! It sent a shock wave through workers across the country. If he would do this to the people who were with him, what would he do to us?

Reagan had been backed by Wall Street in his run for the White House and they, along with right-wing Christians, wanted to restructure America and turn back the tide that President Franklin D. Roosevelt started -- a tide that was intended to make life better for the average working person. The rich hated paying better wages and providing benefits. They hated paying taxes even more. And they despised unions. The right-wing Christians hated anything that sounded like socialism or holding out a helping hand to minorities or women.

Reagan promised to end all that. So when the air traffic controllers went on strike, he seized the moment. In getting rid of every single last one of them and outlawing their union, he sent a clear and strong message: The days of everyone having a comfortable middle class life were over. America, from now on, would be run this way:

* The super-rich will make more, much much more, and the rest of you will scramble for the crumbs that are left.

* Everyone must work! Mom, Dad, the teenagers in the house! Dad, you work a second job! Kids, here's your latch-key! Your parents might be home in time to put you to bed.

* 50 million of you must go without health insurance! And health insurance companies: you go ahead and decide who you want to help -- or not.

* Unions are evil! You will not belong to a union! You do not need an advocate! Shut up and get back to work! No, you can't leave now, we're not done. Your kids can make their own dinner.

* You want to go to college? No problem -- just sign here and be in hock to a bank for the next 20 years!

* What's "a raise"? Get back to work and shut up!

And so it went. But Reagan could not have pulled this off by himself in 1981. He had some big help:
The AFL-CIO.

The biggest organization of unions in America told its members to cross the picket lines of the air traffic controllers and go to work. And that's just what these union members did. Union pilots, flight attendants, delivery truck drivers, baggage handlers -- they all crossed the line and helped to break the strike. And union members of all stripes crossed the picket lines and continued to fly.

Reagan and Wall Street could not believe their eyes! Hundreds of thousands of working people and union members endorsing the firing of fellow union members. It was Christmas in August for Corporate America.

And that was the beginning of the end. Reagan and the Republicans knew they could get away with anything -- and they did. They slashed taxes on the rich. They made it harder for you to start a union at your workplace. They eliminated safety regulations on the job. They ignored the monopoly laws and allowed thousands of companies to merge or be bought out and closed down. Corporations froze wages and threatened to move overseas if the workers didn't accept lower pay and less benefits. And when the workers agreed to work for less, they moved the jobs overseas anyway.

And at every step along the way, the majority of Americans went along with this. There was little opposition or fight-back. The "masses" did not rise up and protect their jobs, their homes, their schools (which used to be the best in the world). They just accepted their fate and took the beating.

I have often wondered what would have happened had we all just stopped flying, period, back in 1981. What if all the unions had said to Reagan, "Give those controllers their jobs back or we're shutting the country down!"? You know what would have happened. The corporate elite and their boy Reagan would have buckled.

But we didn't do it. And so, bit by bit, piece by piece, in the ensuing 30 years, those in power have destroyed the middle class of our country and, in turn, have wrecked the future for our young people. Wages have remained stagnant for 30 years. Take a look at the statistics and you can see that every decline we're now suffering with had its beginning in 1981

It all began on this day, 30 years ago. One of the darkest days in American history. And we let it happen to us. Yes, they had the money, and the media and the cops. But we had 200 million of us. Ever wonder what it would look like if 200 million got truly upset and wanted their country, their life, their job, their weekend, their time with their kids back?

Have we all just given up? What are we waiting for? Forget about the 20% who support the Tea Party -- we are the other 80%! This decline will only end when we demand it. And not through an online petition or a tweet. We are going to have to turn the TV and the computer and the video games off and get out in the streets (like they've done in Wisconsin). Some of you need to run for local office next year. We need to demand that the Democrats either get a spine and stop taking corporate money -- or step aside.

When is enough, enough? The middle class dream will not just magically reappear. Wall Street's plan is clear: America is to be a nation of Haves and Have Nothings. Is that OK for you?

Why not use today to pause and think about the little steps you can take to turn this around in your neighborhood, at your workplace, in your school? Is there any better day to start than today?

http://www.alternet.org/newsandview...le_class_died_...a_letter_from_michael_moore/
 
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okay....Reagan was fighting the last era of the cold war, sold us on the threat of nuclear war, spent way too much on military/defense contracts and such, tripled the national debt, made it sound like the Russians were the bad guys....although we did have some good music until 1987 when the market fell....
 

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So you would have preferred another 4 years of Peanut Boy???

Trying to bash Reagan seems to be the lefts justification for the real damage that Obama is doing to this country
 

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So you would have preferred another 4 years of Peanut Boy???

Trying to bash Reagan seems to be the lefts justification for the real damage that Obama is doing to this country

I thought you had me on ignore? :24:

Do tell how Carter was worse than your hero Ronnie?

And while you're explaining that, pick any point in the OP that is inaccurate and explain why. I know you won't, but I'll go through the motions, yet again. Why? Because there are fence sitters out there with no political agenda who are willing to learn and listen to reason.
 

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So you would have preferred another 4 years of Peanut Boy???

Trying to bash Reagan seems to be the lefts justification for the real damage that Obama is doing to this country
no..Jimmy Carter had a shit hand after the Iranian hostage crisis....and it all goes down hill....it started with that commie Washington....

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Reagan did not have a republican congress to give him whatever he wanted like Obama

Hell Obama had a stranglehold and could not even get a budget last year. It was such a pathetic one as I recall not one senator voted for it

Look at when the economy started tanking. It was when Pelosi and Reid took over. Of course the liberals will say it was all Bushes fault

Carter created the Iranian crisis with his wimpy friggin foreign policies. If he had it his way Israel would be disbanded and he would be in bed with the Palestinian terrorists.
 

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hmmmm..... Methinks it's been going on a bit longer than that:

[FONT=arial,helvetica][SIZE=-1]"I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country. . . . corporations have been enthroned and an era of corruption in high places will follow, and the money power of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the people until all wealth is aggregated in a few hands and the Republic is destroyed."
-- U.S. President Abraham Lincoln, Nov. 21, 1864
(letter to Col. William F. Elkins)
[SIZE=-2] Ref: The Lincoln Encyclopedia, Archer H. Shaw (Macmillan, 1950, NY)



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Reagan did not have a republican congress to give him whatever he wanted like Obama

Hell Obama had a stranglehold and could not even get a budget last year. It was such a pathetic one as I recall not one senator voted for it

Look at when the economy started tanking. It was when Pelosi and Reid took over. Of course the liberals will say it was all Bushes fault

Carter created the Iranian crisis with his wimpy friggin foreign policies. If he had it his way Israel would be disbanded and he would be in bed with the Palestinian terrorists.

So how do you explain the last 30 years? Was all going swimmingly until Obama fucked it all up? Reagan and Bush were just misunderstood, right? So Obama comes in and fucks up all the political bliss created by 20 years of Reagan and Bush I and II? I mean, Bush II obviously led us to a better place than blow job Willy, and then Obama, in less than one term creates all this havoc?

Love the way conservobots think.
 

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I thought you had me on ignore? :24:

Do tell how Carter was worse than your hero Ronnie?
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Carter was definately a better president, he solved the inflation problem, prevented an oil crisis, and was decisive in foreign affairs, especially the Iranian hostage crisis.

Oh wait.
 

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okay....Reagan was fighting the last era of the cold war, sold us on the threat of nuclear war, spent way too much on military/defense contracts and such, tripled the national debt, made it sound like the Russians were the bad guys....although we did have some good music until 1987 when the market fell....
um they had nukes aimed at us what are you talking about


war with Russia was a very real scenario



and yeah spreading Communism is pretty bad
 
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Carter was definately a better president, he solved the inflation problem, prevented an oil crisis, and was decisive in foreign affairs, especially the Iranian hostage crisis.

Oh wait.

Read the article in the OP and tell us how much better Regan was. Middle class wages began decreasing under Reagans "trickle down" economic policies and have yet to recover. College tuition has sky rocketed and people have to go into $25,000 to $50,000 of debt just to get an undergraduate degree. The only winners so far are the banks.

As to the "oil crisis", you might want to research that a little more. Google "1973 oil crisis" and see what you learn.

Interest rates did get high under Carter, no doubt. But you could get a certificate of deposit at most banks for up to 10% back then, and 5%-6% on your savings accounts. What rate are you getting on your savings account today? A whopping 1% if you are lucky. The Federal Reserve today is giving money away to the banks at rates as low as 0% but you won't get squat for your savings....But they'll loan it to you for 5% and up depending on your credit rating.

But lets hear the finer side of "trickle down" and how it's working for us today. Remember, "trickle down" was supposed to be the great equalizer and saviour of our economy. It has had the 30 year test now. How do you like it so far?

And lest you mistakenly think I am an Obama fan, he has done little to lead the nation out of trickle down. The Democrats have sold the working class down the river too. I'm making it clear that much of the economic damage caused to the middle class was started and accelerated by Saint Ronnie and continues to this day. The only slow down of the trickle down effect happened under Clinton when he raised marginal rates and we actually had a budget surplus. That should provide at least a clue to a rational thinking individual.
 

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Read the article in the OP and tell us how much better Regan was. Middle class wages began decreasing under Reagans "trickle down" economic policies and have yet to recover. College tuition has sky rocketed and people have to go into $25,000 to $50,000 of debt just to get an undergraduate degree. The only winners so far are the banks.

As to the "oil crisis", you might want to research that a little more. Google "1973 oil crisis" and see what you learn.

Interest rates did get high under Carter, no doubt. But you could get a certificate of deposit at most banks for up to 10% back then, and 5%-6% on your savings accounts. What rate are you getting on your savings account today? A whopping 1% if you are lucky. The Federal Reserve today is giving money away to the banks at rates as low as 0% but you won't get squat for your savings....But they'll loan it to you for 5% and up depending on your credit rating.

But lets hear the finer side of "trickle down" and how it's working for us today. Remember, "trickle down" was supposed to be the great equalizer and saviour of our economy. It has had the 30 year test now. How do you like it so far?

And lest you mistakenly think I am an Obama fan, he has done little to lead the nation out of trickle down. The Democrats have sold the working class down the river too. I'm making it clear that much of the economic damage caused to the middle class was started and accelerated by Saint Ronnie and continues to this day. The only slow down of the trickle down effect happened under Clinton when he raised marginal rates and we actually had a budget surplus. That should provide at least a clue to a rational thinking individual.

Who's going into $50,000 debt to get a degree? The kid who doesn't know what he wants to do, so he spends all of his parents money at some expensive liberal arts college for 5 years?

I never said that trickle down economics worked. My intent was just to point out that Carter was hardly any better than Reagan.

It's sorta funny how you criticize Reagan when Carter implemented policies that are traditionally of a Republican nature.

Also, google "1979 Oil Crisis" and see what you learn. While you're at it, Google "Iranian Hostage Crisis."
 
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John said:
Interest rates did get high under Carter, no doubt. But you could get a certificate of deposit at most banks for up to 10% back then, and 5%-6% on your savings accounts. What rate are you getting on your savings account today? A whopping 1% if you are lucky.
:24: Of course there's no correlation there, huh?
 

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Let's all just agree that a two party system doesn't work. Personally, I think there should be a three party system, where all three parties have equal number of seats in Congress. There should never be one party "in control". Also, there should be term limits in Congress. 2 terms, you are done. This way they shouldn't be worried about getting re-elected forever.
 

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Who's going into $50,000 debt to get a degree? The kid who doesn't know what he wants to do, so he spends all of his parents money at some expensive liberal arts college for 5 years?

Actually $50,000 might get you an associates degree at an average university. A lady I work with is spending $25,000 a year for her daughter to go to Ohio University. And she's not rich by any means. If you want a bachelor's degree from a university you're looking at at least $100,000 in loans for your average family. For the middle class there is no way they can afford to put their kid through for 5 years for a liberal arts degree that means nothing.

In an adult studies program at a no name college you're looking at $60,000 for a bachelors.

And even better, degrees are now starting to be a requirement for any decent job. Hell even customer service positions are now starting to require an associates in business.

Pretty soon there's going to be no middle class because they're going to be unable to pay for the mountain of debt they have to have to stay in the middle class.
 

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Actually $50,000 might get you an associates degree at an average university. A lady I work with is spending $25,000 a year for her daughter to go to Ohio University. And she's not rich by any means. If you want a bachelor's degree from a university you're looking at at least $100,000 in loans for your average family. For the middle class there is no way they can afford to put their kid through for 5 years for a liberal arts degree that means nothing.

In an adult studies program at a no name college you're looking at $60,000 for a bachelors.

And even better, degrees are now starting to be a requirement for any decent job. Hell even customer service positions are now starting to require an associates in business.

Pretty soon there's going to be no middle class because they're going to be unable to pay for the mountain of debt they have to have to stay in the middle class.

That's not necessarily true... at Fresno State, you're looking at around $25,000 in tuition for a BA/BS degree (about $3,100 a semester). That's obviously just tuition, and if you're a California resident... but it's a far cry from the $60,000 for an adult studies degree at a no-name college. The Craig School of Business is ranked in the top 30 in the country for business degrees, the Ag program is ranked in the top 20% in the country, and the teaching programs are amongst the best in the state.

But, it is absurd that an education has gotten so ridiculously expensive. I'm not entirely certain why someone would go to a 4-year school in order to get an Associates degree though. You can get those through community colleges, and pay probably $5-7k total to get your degree.
 
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