Poll! Debbie Rowe wants her children back

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Jersey

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She gave the kids to Michael for something like $8M. I think the only reason she wants them back now is because she sees dollar signs. From what I gather she hasn't had any interaction with them since she sold the kids to MJ.

On the other hand, I don't have a better option for the kids. Wherever they go at this point...they're screwed unfortunately. No one in that family is sane enough or healthy enough to take care of them.. and Diana Ross?? Really??
 

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Well she's obviously a bitch but there's less chance of that than MJ being a kiddie fiddler. I'm just sick of not being able to get away from people mourning a nonce. If there is any such thing as society, I really dont want a part of it if it means people not shutting up about and getting angry with you because you dont like paedophiles.

That certainly would not be me. Rant, rail against and excoriate pedophiles all you like and I won't give you an iota's grief about it.

As far as Rowe, based on her past performance, two pay offs and some pretty harsh statements regarding her feelings about her own flesh and blood, I don't think she would be optimal and I hope a judge would take everything she has ever said into account before ruling.

Um, what's a "nonce"?
 

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I think she deserves them

SHe has always said she had them for Michael, and that she got paid. BIG DEAL, didnt SJP and Matthew Broderick just have twins to a surrogate they paid?

If he offered me millions to have his kids and I didnt have to root him, I would've done it too.:thumbup

Now, MJ is dead, she wants her kids where they should be now, with their mum.

We know nothing of what has happened with her in the last few years, who;s to say she wont be a good mum

She's made a start by wanting to get them away from all the crap thats going on, and that weird family.

But only AFTER it became public he specifically cut her out of the will. The fact that MJ's mother was named guardian was made public days before that. If Rowe was so concerned about that, she could have made an issue of it just days after MJ's death.

BTW, his father doesn't live with mom and hasn't for years.

I do applaud Rowe for asking for a restraining order to ensure Joe Jackson has no contact with them. Excellent. But I am suspicious of her motivations following her elimination from the will.
 

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She gave the kids to Michael for something like $8M. I think the only reason she wants them back now is because she sees dollar signs. From what I gather she hasn't had any interaction with them since she sold the kids to MJ.

On the other hand, I don't have a better option for the kids. Wherever they go at this point...they're screwed unfortunately. No one in that family is sane enough or healthy enough to take care of them.. and Diana Ross?? Really??

Why now Diana? She has five children of her own and all of them have managed to stay out of the news and seemingly out of trouble despite her fame.
 

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If that's the case, then maybe she's just the person for the job.

That's what I was thinking. I google about when I first heard that and didn't find anything negative about her children. They seem completely functional. She might be the best option.
 

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You know, everything about these kids existence and the circumstances surrounding it is totally fucked up. There are reports now (still must wait to see if they're true) that MJ is not only NOT the biological father, but he never legally adopted them, either. How much a a wrench does THAT throw into the system? That would mean his own wishes and desires (like his will) are completely irrelevant.

It's really starting to make me a little sick to my stomach to realize how fucking selfish it is when people start throwing money around to rent out wombs and buy sperm and eggs and manufacture babies just to feed their narcissistic desires. This has turned out to be a worst-case scenario where we have three kids who didn't ask for ANY of this and now have their entire lives being kicked around for sport and media fodder. I guess this is what we, America as a society, get for allowing money and fame to create different rules for some people and for feeding the machine with our daily Pop Media fix.

I would love it if some judge would step in a snatch these kids out of the entire circus and put them into a witness protection-type deal to get them in a normal family in the middle of nowhere and no one knows who they were. It will never happen, but it should.
 

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You know, everything about these kids existence and the circumstances surrounding it is totally fucked up. There are reports now (still must wait to see if they're true) that MJ is not only NOT the biological father, but he never legally adopted them, either. How much a a wrench does THAT throw into the system? That would mean his own wishes and desires (like his will) are completely irrelevant.

It's really starting to make me a little sick to my stomach to realize how fucking selfish it is when people start throwing money around to rent out wombs and buy sperm and eggs and manufacture babies just to feed their narcissistic desires. This has turned out to be a worst-case scenario where we have three kids who didn't ask for ANY of this and now have their entire lives being kicked around for sport and media fodder. I guess this is what we, America as a society, get for allowing money and fame to create different rules for some people and for feeding the machine with our daily Pop Media fix.

I would love it if some judge would step in a snatch these kids out of the entire circus and put them into a witness protection-type deal to get them in a normal family in the middle of nowhere and no one knows who they were. It will never happen, but it should.


It is my understading that because MJ and Rowe were married at the time, it is assumed they are his and unless the sperm donor makes a claim, there won't be a problem, according to one of the talking heads on the news the other day. Do you know, did he officially adopt Blanket? I haven't heard about him.

I agree, this is a circus. The children don't deserve this. It is a shame Jackson didn't take legal steps to minimize custody issues that would inevitably surround them. Although, I think two settlements for Rowe should definitively seal her fate.

I can't agree snatching them away would be good for them. Yes, their family is utterly screwed up, but to shut off all contact with the people they are most familiar couldn't help.

As for what the rich and famous get away with, they do here and every country on the planet. The wealthy always have purchased justice and everything else their heart's desire. It is not particular to the U.S.
 

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It is my understading that because MJ and Rowe were married at the time, it is assumed they are his and unless the sperm donor makes a claim, there won't be a problem, according to one of the talking heads on the news the other day. Do you know, did he officially adopt Blanket? I haven't heard about him.

I agree, this is a circus. The children don't deserve this. It is a shame Jackson didn't take legal steps to minimize custody issues that would inevitably surround them. Although, I think two settlements for Rowe should definitively seal her fate.

I can't agree snatching them away would be good for them. Yes, their family is utterly screwed up, but to shut off all contact with the people they are most familiar couldn't help.

As for what the rich and famous get away with, they do here and every country on the planet. The wealthy always have purchased justice and everything else their heart's desire. It is not particular to the U.S.

I'm still of the opinion that legally Rowe will be the ONLY one with rights if it turns out she is their biological mother. Do I think she DESERVES it? No. But it's a legal precedent that has always been, and probably should always be followed.

As for celebrities, no it's not unique to America, but we certainly lead the way in our level of celebrity worhsip and idolization. Don't know how much you've traveled around the world, but it's not like this everywhere else. There may be a few other spots, but we overdo it more than most, and we're by far the biggest economic engine that drives the meat grinder.
 

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I'm still of the opinion that legally Rowe will be the ONLY one with rights if it turns out she is their biological mother. Do I think she DESERVES it? No. But it's a legal precedent that has always been, and probably should always be followed.

As for celebrities, no it's not unique to America, but we certainly lead the way in our level of celebrity worhsip and idolization. Don't know how much you've traveled around the world, but it's not like this everywhere else. There may be a few other spots, but we overdo it more than most, and we're by far the biggest economic engine that drives the meat grinder.

I don't think Rowe deserves it, but hopefully before a judge does award her custody, there would be extensive investigations and insurances she would do more than benefit from their inheritance.

I meant the rich and powerful of all stations of life, not just celebrities. The wealthiest, in comparison to those in their own country, not ours, always have the capacity to buy justice and favor. Americans by far lift give much too much importance to celebrities, I agree.
 
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