Occupy Wall Street! Big Protest in New York
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True enough, but to be fair, it shouldn't be worn unbuttoned with the undershirt hanging out and certainly not with ribbons. But, as you say, he's a vet and not active. He can wear whatever & however he wants. Lord knows he's earned it.
I love the hypocrisy on both sides of The Party. How easily they switch sides of the issue without missing a beat. This group is exercising their right of free speech, but that group is a bunch of thugs who should be arrested and thrown in jail. Ready ... Switch! This group is a bunch of thugs who should be arrested and thrown in jail, but that group is exercising their right of free speech.
Compare and Contrast. The photo on the left was posted at this site. It reads "This photo was taken on July 4th 2009 at the Southwestern PA, T.E.A. Party held at Bushy Run Battlefield."
http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/s...bama-protest&p=1009255&viewfull=1#post1009255
Hmmm. Maybe these OWS protesters are going about it all wrong...
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Alien Allen
Froggy the Prick
My reading is that he is supposed to wear the uniform the same as when on active duty. Which he seemed to be in violation of.
MCO P1020.34F
MARINE CORPS UNIFORM REGULATIONS
MARINE CORPS UNIFORM REGULATIONS
CHAPTER 8: UNIFORMS FOR NAVY PERSONNEL, RESERVE/RETIRED MARINES, MCJROTC, AND CIVILIANS
8000. GENERAL
1. Any individual wearing the Marine Corps uniform is expected to reflect the high personal appearance standards and esprit de corps that all Marines in uniform represent. To this end, particular attention will be paid not only to the correct and military wear of uniform components, but also to the individual's personal and physical appearance.
8003. RETIRED PERSONNEL (INCLUDING FLEET MARINE CORPS RESERVE)
5. Retirees employed as instructors under the MCJROTC program will wear the Marine Corps uniform during school hours and at other appropriate times according to these regulations.
6. Retirees not on active duty who wear the uniform other than under the conditions outlined in subparagraphs 8003.4 and 5, above, will wear the uniform as prescribed for persons of their corresponding grade on the active list.
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Typical chickenhawk thought process. Now, I'll withdraw the chickenhawk comment if you actually served - but if not - you are achieving nothing more than majoring in minutiae in your attempts to belittle and discredit this Marine and the OWS movement.
Having served 4 honorable years in the United States Marine Corps myself, your trivial bullshit makes me chuckle - :24:
That Marine has EARNED the right to wear whatever he pleases, especially his service ribbions and medals that he was awarded. And you can bet won't jack shit be said to this Marine veteran about it from HQMC or anywhere else.
Ever been to a veterans day parade and seen all those old veterans wearing partial uniforms? The Vietnam vets wear their fatigues with their ribbons and patches. Every vet from every service date that participates in these events wears their decorations, and whatever part of their old uniform that still fits.
Ever been to a VFW lodge and seen what those vets wear sometimes? Of course not - silly me - you're operating from a chickenhawk anti-OWS point of view - and they only allow vets in the VFW's, so you wouldn't understand anyway.
Sorry, but you're going to have to try and find some other way to discredit this honorable Marine and his support of OWS.
Compare and Contrast. The photo on the left was posted at this site. It reads "This photo was taken on July 4th 2009 at the Southwestern PA, T.E.A. Party held at Bushy Run Battlefield."
http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/s...bama-protest&p=1009255&viewfull=1#post1009255
Hmmm. Maybe these OWS protesters are going about it all wrong...
It makes sense to me...racism and guns, it's the American way
nothing to see here.
Alien Allen
Froggy the Prick
If you don't see the difference between the groups you are not paying attention
And to answer Poopas question about whether the Nam protests shortened the war. There are two sides to that coin depending upon ones view. Personally I don't see where they did much other than to provide the enemy with a sense we would give up eventually. Which we did. Nixon made his deal and then we left never to return.
You may think my comments indicate that I am against the Wall St. protests but you will not see where I have indicated that. I am just pointing out some things which I see and have an opinion on. Good for them doing what they are doing but they control the temp of this and not the police. When you are a few police in comparison when faced with a large crowd that is a magnet for bad things to happen.
I also am not backing Wall St. either for the record. They took us to the cleaners. But if you think only marching there will have impact then you are asking for a miracle. The govt gave the banks an absurd bailout that still gives the banks incentives on the foreclosures. The govt did not do a damn think to clean this up and they are equally responsible. Do you really think anything will happen unless the govt is squeezed? Even then it will take more than having a protest in lower Manhatten to accomplish much if anything.
And to answer Poopas question about whether the Nam protests shortened the war. There are two sides to that coin depending upon ones view. Personally I don't see where they did much other than to provide the enemy with a sense we would give up eventually. Which we did. Nixon made his deal and then we left never to return.
You may think my comments indicate that I am against the Wall St. protests but you will not see where I have indicated that. I am just pointing out some things which I see and have an opinion on. Good for them doing what they are doing but they control the temp of this and not the police. When you are a few police in comparison when faced with a large crowd that is a magnet for bad things to happen.
I also am not backing Wall St. either for the record. They took us to the cleaners. But if you think only marching there will have impact then you are asking for a miracle. The govt gave the banks an absurd bailout that still gives the banks incentives on the foreclosures. The govt did not do a damn think to clean this up and they are equally responsible. Do you really think anything will happen unless the govt is squeezed? Even then it will take more than having a protest in lower Manhatten to accomplish much if anything.
But it's MUCH more than a protest in lower Manhattan. People around the globe are sick and tired of it and the first step is to protest the perceived wrongs.
From what I have seen, the protesters are just as upset with the politicians as the 1%. They have publicly said that no politician from either party will co-opt them. Hell, just yesterday they sent out a statement saying that Move-on.org is not speaking for them and they are NOT officially affiliated with the protests.
Here is their statement...
They have blasted the politicians just as hard.
This isn't just NYC, this is global and we are actually late to the game.
http://www.theatlantic.com/infocus/2011/10/occupy-wall-street-spreads-worldwide/100171/
Go to Occupy Together on facebook and see how many on going demonstrations are taking place across the country and then got to Occupy world to see the thousands of ongoing demonstrations going on...
Alien Allen
Froggy the Prick
Tim I am aware there are other demonstrations going on thru out our country and the world.
My point was they need to also be protesting in DC
I hope I am wrong but I don't see them squeezing Wall St. as having an impact on those in DC who are beholding to Wall St.
My point was they need to also be protesting in DC
I hope I am wrong but I don't see them squeezing Wall St. as having an impact on those in DC who are beholding to Wall St.
Here is a good read about the top ten myths of OWS
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/keith-boykin/occupy-wall-street-media_b_1019707.html?ir=New+York
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/keith-boykin/occupy-wall-street-media_b_1019707.html?ir=New+York
Alien Allen
Froggy the Prick
I read that earlier
This caught my eye
You know as well as I do that some of the people like this guy are playing a game of chicken hoping to goad the police into doing something. It could be they like a confrontation, or they want to get beat up and then sue the city, or a number of other reasons in addition to making a legitimate point. Creating a confrontation is asking for trouble. One can protest without being an ass and trying to see how many buttons you can push. IMO
Alien Allen
Froggy the Prick
You in support of direct democracy Tim?
The problem with this movement is that with such a large and diverse group you are going to get crazies from all walks joining in. And that's fine as long as the main movement can distance themselves properly. And they have distanced themselves very nicely with public statements denouncing violence and such.
You can't go to these protests and interview the few crazies and say it fairly represents the movement. Not for this or for other groups like the tea party.
I support democracy as we have it set up. A representative republic should still work for the people and not for the few whole have enough money to purchase their own representatives...
Alien Allen
Froggy the Prick
You are right and that is what is happening to marginalize both protests. I have been to a local tea party event back a year ago or so. It was very casual. There was no shouting and screaming and stuff that has been attributed to the tea party. I am sure the same is going on for OWS for the most part. How do we filter out this crap when that is what enemies of the movement want every body to notice?
Do you agree that those on the other sides of these movements can and have gone to these events as plants to do things to make it look bad also? I can not prove it but I would bet my life on it as both parties will stoop to any level to further their cause
This movement though seems to have in it quite a lot that support a direct democracy. Which to me would create chaos. I could see one party enacting laws and then 2 years later every body is pissed and they vote em out and then the new crew comes in and changes things back and then the public gets pissed and you end up with groundhog day. Problem is you have about one third that are far right and one third far left in this country. That leaves it up to the middle third who go which ever the way the wind is blowing half the time.
Johnfromokc
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Peter Parka
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See they have taken over St Pauls and forced it to be closed for the first time since WWII.
Johnfromokc
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[video=youtube;i9zkQcLi4Yo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=i9zkQcLi4Yo[/video]This video speaks to all the objections that those who oppose OWS keep coming up with. Thanks to Dana for posting it in another thread:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=i9zkQcLi4Yo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=i9zkQcLi4Yo
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