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I don't know how many of you realized that I liked Obama (not that I looked to much into it, because I couldn't vote) the only reason why I did was because he seemed most pro environment of all the candidates. I am now joining you right-winged people on this (even though I have decided to become a centrist when I can vote in the next election) I very much so dislike Obama. He is spending to much money to fast, kissing people hands, and making new yorkers think that 9/11 is happening all over again.

So you can except me into your clan, Obama haters, and Obama supporters, you can call me racist :D

Seriously, if you are a true friend of the environment, then you would stay as far away from the republicans as you can get. They will always step all over the environment in favor of giving corporations what they want. They will fuck the environment if it means a few dollars more in profit.
 
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Seriously, if you are a true friend of the environment, then you would stay as far away from the republicans as you can get. They will always step all over the environment in favor of giving corporations what they want. They will fuck the environment if it means a few dollars more in profit.

For many years now the Republican party has felt this way about any factor that cuts into profits- environment, wages, regulations, etc. The Democratic party is far from perfect but it's puts a value on the environment. Of course it's up to voters to decide if it is the right value. I do.
 

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Can i ask what does politics matter to someone as young as you abrianna

i think its great that someone as young as her actually cares. most adults dont!

bri ask away hon, i see it as you are only trying to educate yourself further. and welcome to the right side :D
 

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Its so easy to be critical of others. Can you guys get elected? And if you got elected and in his shoes what would you have done?

So just because I can't become president, and I have done less in my life so far then Obama, I'm not allowed to have an opinion on my president and government? Interesting.

Yup, she is... so i guess the republican party will be the best fit for her. :24:

I said I would be centrist (in my first post). That means I care a lot about the environment, but I care about our economy too. It's a compromise. In the middle. Why it's called CENTRIST.

but then again, who is going to pay for this mess?...oh yeah..I forgot...I can't retire until I die.....

I am. I am one of the youngest members on here, so I will be paying for most of this debt throughout my life.


Seriously, if you are a true friend of the environment, then you would stay as far away from the republicans as you can get. They will always step all over the environment in favor of giving corporations what they want. They will fuck the environment if it means a few dollars more in profit.

I know.

Remember? Centrist, independent, and all that jaz.

For many years now the Republican party has felt this way about any factor that cuts into profits- environment, wages, regulations, etc. The Democratic party is far from perfect but it's puts a value on the environment. Of course it's up to voters to decide if it is the right value. I do.

The democratic party is far from perfect, because their needs to be compromise between the two parties. Which is what centrists are, compromise.


Can i ask what does politics matter to someone as young as you abrianna

They should matter to young people more then anyone. If Obama screws up the economy now, your going to have to deal with it for what 20, 30, maybe 40 years? I,however, am going to have to deal with it my entire life.
 

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I don't know why everyone thinks that just because I've stopped supporting Obama, I've become a Republican. I even said in my original post that I wanted to vote centrist in the next election.
 

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They should matter to young people more then anyone. If Obama screws up the economy now, your going to have to deal with it for what 20, 30, maybe 40 years? I,however, am going to have to deal with it my entire life.

Not really, economies rise and and fall, dont matter who is in charge

Your going to have to deal with it? hmm are you going to become one of those enviromental extremists?
 

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Not really, economies rise and and fall, dont matter who is in charge

Your going to have to deal with it? hmm are you going to become one of those enviromental extremists?

My country could be in debt for my entire life due to a poor president. I should care about who my president is.

I would NEVER become an environmental extremist--they do more harm then good.

Are you seriously saying I shouldn't be forming a political opinion?
 

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My country could be in debt for my entire life due to a poor president. I should care about who my president is.

I would NEVER become an environmental extremist--they do more harm then good.

Are you seriously saying I shouldn't be forming a political opinion?

You've been listening to Fox news again... Haven't you?

Our country will ALWAYS be in debt, get used to it. And when people throw out statements like "every person will need to pay 17gazillion dollars to pay for interest alone" you know they are bullshitting you. You do realize that Bush left the country with over $11,000,000,000,000.00 in debt, right (that's $36,594.42 per person) And the worse part about it, the country didn't grow. Our GDP went down for the first time in over 50 years.
Do you think you will ever have to personally pay that $36,594.42 in debt that Bush left you? Nope, you will never have to pay that because the economy will grow, and every time it grows, our debt goes down.
Our debt means nothing as long as our economy grows fast enough... and with Bush, he added trillions to the debt without doing a damn thing to grow the economy. At least Obama is spending to strengthen the economy so that people like you won't have to pay back the debt.
 

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You make it clearer every day why you have Reckless before your name Tim :D

Let me introduce you to my little friend inflation

And I suppose that SS will cure itself also.

How on earth can you believe what you are posting.

This is not a garden variety deficit. Aint no way this one gets paid back. The minute we get a budget that is not a deficit the spending goes up because the morons think it is ok.
 

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My country could be in debt for my entire life due to a poor president. I should care about who my president is.

I would NEVER become an environmental extremist--they do more harm then good.

Are you seriously saying I shouldn't be forming a political opinion?

Im just saying leave politic sto the people who know what there talking about and saying that i hate enviromentalist and eco freaky people, they really get on me nerves
 

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The amount is absurd to start with

Where is it going is for pet liberal projects for the most part that do not get the bang for the buck in stimulating things. Waste is waste no matter when it happens or for whatever the reason. This is just an excuse to be able to spend on liberal programs.
QFT.
You've been listening to Fox news again... Haven't you?

Our country will ALWAYS be in debt, get used to it. And when people throw out statements like "every person will need to pay 17gazillion dollars to pay for interest alone" you know they are bullshitting you. You do realize that Bush left the country with over $11,000,000,000,000.00 in debt, right (that's $36,594.42 per person) And the worse part about it, the country didn't grow. Our GDP went down for the first time in over 50 years.
Do you think you will ever have to personally pay that $36,594.42 in debt that Bush left you? Nope, you will never have to pay that because the economy will grow, and every time it grows, our debt goes down.
Our debt means nothing as long as our economy grows fast enough... and with Bush, he added trillions to the debt without doing a damn thing to grow the economy. At least Obama is spending to strengthen the economy so that people like you won't have to pay back the debt.
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Do you really believe that garbage, or are you being sarcastic? Because I don't know how anyone in their right mind could believe that doubling our national debt in the matter of a few years is going to be a good thing for our economy or our future.
You make it clearer every day why you have Reckless before your name Tim :D

Let me introduce you to my little friend inflation

And I suppose that SS will cure itself also.

How on earth can you believe what you are posting.

This is not a garden variety deficit. Aint no way this one gets paid back. The minute we get a budget that is not a deficit the spending goes up because the morons think it is ok.
Lawlz, another QFT.
 

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Im just saying leave politic sto the people who know what there talking about and saying that i hate enviromentalist and eco freaky people, they really get on me nerves
Young people should be interested in politics. Anything to get rid of the apathy when it comes towards politics is a positive. We already have the so called people who know what they are talking about running the show. How is that working out for ya
 

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Do you really believe that garbage, or are you being sarcastic? Because I don't know how anyone in their right mind could believe that doubling our national debt in the matter of a few years is going to be a good thing for our economy or our future.

This right here tells me that you have no idea what you are talking about...

Our national debt is currently at $11.2 Trillion dollars. Are you saying that within the next few years our national debt will be $22.4 trillion dollars?

I think you are talking about our deficit.
 

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This right here tells me that you have no idea what you are talking about...

Our national debt is currently at $11.2 Trillion dollars. Are you saying that within the next few years our national debt will be $22.4 trillion dollars?

I think you are talking about our deficit.
Did you listen to the video I posted in another thread? If I remember right, the guy says that Obama's current plans takes us down to a $9T deficit in a decade, and will certainly be doubling the national debt within a few years. All I know is that Obama is spending like a maniac, so this sort of reporting doesn't sound too far-fetched.

And isn't the budget this year like $2T in deficit already? That's 20% added to the national debt just within one year! Not to mention the interest that will be steadily accruing on it...
 

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You've been listening to Fox news again... Haven't you?

Our country will ALWAYS be in debt, get used to it. And when people throw out statements like "every person will need to pay 17gazillion dollars to pay for interest alone" you know they are bullshitting you. You do realize that Bush left the country with over $11,000,000,000,000.00 in debt, right (that's $36,594.42 per person) And the worse part about it, the country didn't grow. Our GDP went down for the first time in over 50 years.
Do you think you will ever have to personally pay that $36,594.42 in debt that Bush left you? Nope, you will never have to pay that because the economy will grow, and every time it grows, our debt goes down.
Our debt means nothing as long as our economy grows fast enough... and with Bush, he added trillions to the debt without doing a damn thing to grow the economy. At least Obama is spending to strengthen the economy so that people like you won't have to pay back the debt.

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