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Russia prohibits denial of Santa
The Russian government has banned a television advertisement for denying the existence of Father Christmas. The ad for Eto electrical stores stated Father Frost, Russia's version of Father Christmas, did not exist.
The Federal anti-Monopoly Service said the ad had broken rules for advertisers not to discredit parents and teachers.
It said that declaring that Father Frost did not exist implied that parents were not telling the truth, so undermining childrens' trust in them.
The ad "induces negative relations between children and parents", Andrei Kashevarov, the service's deputy director, told Rossiiskaya Gazeta.
The advertiser, Eto, defended its commercial, saying it was aimed at adults.





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well, seeing as there was a person, later to be canonized by the Catholic Church and named St. Nicholas, the story has it's roots...to beleive in him is simply an extension of your religious beliefs...but we know that AEF has no religious beliefs, therefore he cannot beleive in St. Nicholas, or as he's so affectionately known now, Santa Claus.
 
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I don't see anything wrong with protecting an age-old fantasy from being divulged as "wrong" to children. Isn't childhood all about, play, role-play, fantasy and fairy tale? Isn't imagination part of the learning process?
 
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It's this bit which really gets me -

"It said that declaring that Father Frost did not exist implied that parents were not telling the truth, so undermining childrens' trust in them."

What are things coming too if it's illegal to tell the truth? Kids are going to find out that "Father Frost" dosen't exist at one point or another so I fail to see how this is going to undermine childrens trust in adults any more than them finding out any other way. :wtf:
 
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Peter Parka said:
It's this bit which really gets me -

"It said that declaring that Father Frost did not exist implied that parents were not telling the truth, so undermining childrens' trust in them."

What are things coming too if it's illegal to tell the truth? Kids are going to find out that "Father Frost" dosen't exist at one point or another so I fail to see how this is going to undermine childrens trust in adults any more than them finding out any other way. :wtf:
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We all found out eventually, but it was good while it lasted. I don't think that tv adverts should spoil it for those kids who still believe!
 
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Peter Parka said:
It's this bit which really gets me -

"It said that declaring that Father Frost did not exist implied that parents were not telling the truth, so undermining childrens' trust in them."

What are things coming too if it's illegal to tell the truth? Kids are going to find out that "Father Frost" dosen't exist at one point or another so I fail to see how this is going to undermine childrens trust in adults any more than them finding out any other way. :wtf:
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Peter, I think this is where the rights of parents become more important than the simplicity of the truth. A parent is going to tell their kid all sorts of stuff to explain the world around them. Children don't have common sense. They can't have logical thought processes until the so-called "age of reason". So until that complexity with the brain has matured, parents around the world have resorted to stories and fantasies about all sorts of things. It probably started when the first kid asked "Why?" a thousand times. One of those explanatory stories is the concept of Santa Claus (or Father Christmas, etc.) That story is SO omnipresent in many cultures. The tradition of re-telling it far outweighs the importance of telling the truth to children.
Let the children play.
 
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Peter, I think this is where the rights of parents become more important than the simplicity of the truth. A parent is going to tell their kid all sorts of stuff to explain the world around them. Children don't have common sense. They can't have logical thought processes until the so-called "age of reason". So until that complexity with the brain has matured, parents around the world have resorted to stories and fantasies about all sorts of things. It probably started when the first kid asked "Why?" a thousand times. One of those explanatory stories is the concept of Santa Claus (or Father Christmas, etc.) That story is SO omnipresent in many cultures. The tradition of re-telling it far outweighs the importance of telling the truth to children.
Let the children play.
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Well from a legal point of view this law is incredibly flawed as it opens itself up to so many loopholes which could endanger kids. For example, say a kid was being abused by a parent, covering it over by telling them that it was normal. Under this law someone telling the kid that it isn't normal in an effort to bring the parent to justice and protect the kid could be prosecuted as well. Ridiculous law!
 
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Peter Parka said:
Russia prohibits denial of Santa
The Russian government has banned a television advertisement for denying the existence of Father Christmas. The ad for Eto electrical stores stated Father Frost, Russia's version of Father Christmas, did not exist.
The Federal anti-Monopoly Service said the ad had broken rules for advertisers not to discredit parents and teachers.
It said that declaring that Father Frost did not exist implied that parents were not telling the truth, so undermining childrens' trust in them.
The ad "induces negative relations between children and parents", Andrei Kashevarov, the service's deputy director, told Rossiiskaya Gazeta.
The advertiser, Eto, defended its commercial, saying it was aimed at adults.





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You never mentioned a law Pete. Your post refers to rules for advertisers, rather than a law for all.
 
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Peter Parka said:
...For example, say a kid was being abused by a parent, covering it over by telling them that it was normal. Under this law someone telling the kid that it isn't normal in an effort to bring the parent to justice and protect the kid could be prosecuted as well. Ridiculous law!
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But abusing a kid is not a practice done by a huge majority of parents. That situation would not be protected by law. Precedents can be made when the majority adhere and follow a custom.
 
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true, but about those strict muslim communities that feel it's alright to beat a girl/woman to death for being near a boy/man that isn't her relative? That's where "group-think" doesn't work, IMHO.
 
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