Noah would says No to God, or be a Traitor to Jesus, says do onto others rule?

[Greatest I am]

Noah would says No to God, or be a Traitor to Jesus, says do onto others rule?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGx4IlppSgU&feature=related
Can you think like an adult?

One should treat others as one would like others to treat oneself .
One should not treat others in ways that one would not like to be treated
Do unto others as a Golden rule is all that man would likely have to follow to end most if not all of human suffering at the hands of other humans.
If God himself lived by this rule, none of the woes inflicted on us via Adam and Eve would be with us today.
The moral and right thing for Noah to do was say no to God thus choosing to follow Jesus. This would also apply to Abraham when asked to sacrifice his son.
Both instances show God asking others to act immorally.
These are the highlights of the many times in scripture where God makes men act in an immoral way.
Noah and Abraham, and in a sense, Jesus, would torch the ark. That or not build it at all and thus force God to find another way to reboot his once perfect systems. Why he allowed perfection to go to imperfection is still a mystery as no intelligent God would allow such back sliding.
If Noah believed in the sanctity of human life, and lived by Jesus’ command to do to your neighbor as yourself....he would refuse to build the ark. It is a moral issue, Had Noah done that, God would have had to kill everyone, or no one.
This sort of moral position is upheld occasionally when a person refuses to back down, even at the cost of his life. We revere a person like this, call them heroes. This is NOT the cloth Noah was cut from. How can we say Noah was a man of God when he would not follow Jesus’ first rule?
We picture Noah in heaven but I would say that it is better to shovel coal in hell than to spend eternity watching friends, neighbors and our children in torture and flame forever.
Only a sick mind would conceive of such a situation or wish it upon anyone.
That is how mentally challenged Noah would have had to be to build the means of man’s genocide.
Yet Christians, Catholics and Muslims revere such an immoral patriarch.

Are you all as crazy as Noah had to be?

Did Noah act in a sane manner or is he now in hell paying for not following the teachings of God/Jesus or the teachings of the Bible itself?

Romans 12:21 Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.
Is genocide always evil?

Is a God who kills when he can just as easily cure a moral God?

Regards
DL

 

[BornReady]

The Old Testament is the scripture of ancient Hebrews. They were a primitive people and their scriptures reflect that. I don't know about Jews but most modern Christians don't even read the Old Testament. Many don't read the New Testament either. I think it's time for Christians to update their Bible. That may seem sacrilegious but I think a religion's scripture should reflect the beliefs of its adherents. And, fortunately, that is not the case with the Old Testament anymore.

 

[pjbleek]

Adam and Eve were destined to create first sin, if not for eating the forbidden fruit, there would have been another test that God would have made them do. God does not have to "live" with his rule, for He is the creator and the creator is supposed to follow his word otherwise He is a hypocrite.

 

[Greatest I am]

The Old Testament is the scripture of ancient Hebrews. They were a primitive people and their scriptures reflect that. I don't know about Jews but most modern Christians don't even read the Old Testament. Many don't read the New Testament either. I think it's time for Christians to update their Bible. That may seem sacrilegious but I think a religion's scripture should reflect the beliefs of its adherents. And, fortunately, that is not the case with the Old Testament anymore.

I agree and would say that both old and new are unworkable.

Regards
DL

 

[Greatest I am]

Adam and Eve were destined to create first sin, if not for eating the forbidden fruit, there would have been another test that God would have made them do. God does not have to "live" with his rule, for He is the creator and the creator is supposed to follow his word otherwise He is a hypocrite.

So if he says though shall not kill or covet and then does, that makes him a hypocrite?

Do you think God a hypocrite?

Regards
DL

 

[All Else Failed]

God flooded the world because the giants bred with humans. It was to secure Jesus's lineage. Apparently.

 

[Greatest I am]

God flooded the world because the giants bred with humans. It was to secure Jesus's lineage. Apparently.

Genocide the whole world just to make sure Jesus is our hero. How quaint.

If God had not allowed his sons to come down to earth and use it as a brothel in the first place then none of it need have happened and he would not have had to drown his own grandchildren.
What a fool of a God.

Regards
DL

 

[All Else Failed]

Genocide the whole world just to make sure Jesus is our hero. How quaint.

If God had not allowed his sons to come down to earth and use it as a brothel in the first place then none of it need have happened and he would not have had to drown his own grandchildren.
What a fool of a God.

Regards
DL

Well if the flood assured jesus's pure lineage and Jesus saved the entire human from sin because of it they yeah it was worth it.


Questioning whether god is right or wrong is impossible for a human being to do.






But


I don't believe in him, so.

 

[Tuffdisc]

The Old Testament is the scripture of ancient Hebrews. They were a primitive people and their scriptures reflect that. I don't know about Jews but most modern Christians don't even read the Old Testament. Many don't read the New Testament either. I think it's time for Christians to update their Bible. That may seem sacrilegious but I think a religion's scripture should reflect the beliefs of its adherents. And, fortunately, that is not the case with the Old Testament anymore.

Update the bible by ripping out bits you don't like and adding bits you do?? I think that would be quite impossible to happen

 

[Tim]

Well if the flood assured jesus's pure lineage and Jesus saved the entire human from sin because of it they yeah it was worth it.


Questioning whether god is right or wrong is impossible for a human being to do.






But


I don't believe in him, so.

There is no such thing as pure. We are all born with sin according to the bible. So the flood would have been a failure if that was the case.

And of course we can question whether if there is a God or not, and for those to choose to believe in him have every right, ability to question his actions. We all have an innate sense of right and wrong, and right and wrong is not set in stone. It's never been a black and white subject.

 

[Tim]

Update the bible by ripping out bits you don't like and adding bits you do?? I think that would be quite impossible to happen

But it has happened... Many times before. Entire books of the bible have been stripped away.

 

[All Else Failed]

There is no such thing as pure. We are all born with sin according to the bible. So the flood would have been a failure if that was the case.

And of course we can question whether if there is a God or not, and for those to choose to believe in him have every right, ability to question his actions. We all have an innate sense of right and wrong, and right and wrong is not set in stone. It's never been a black and white subject.

I'm talking about Jesus. Jesus was without sin. The flood was to assure him being born without taint.

 

[Tim]

I'm talking about Jesus. Jesus was without sin. The flood was to assure him being born without taint.

Really? The flood was 3050 years before the birth of Jesus. No sin in those thirty and half centuries?

 

[All Else Failed]

Really? The flood was 3050 years before the birth of Jesus. No sin in those thirty and half centuries?

Are you reading my posts because you're responding with thing I didn't even say.


Humans during the time of the flood were being mixed with a race of giants called the Nephilim. God saw that if he did not secure Jesus's family line, Jesus's lineage would be corrupted by them. So, he flooded the world to eradicate the tainted human beings.

 

[Greatest I am]

Well if the flood assured jesus's pure lineage and Jesus saved the entire human from sin because of it they yeah it was worth it.


Questioning whether god is right or wrong is impossible for a human being to do.






But


I don't believe in him, so.

Neither do I but as an omnipotent dude, he can pick and choose whatever DNA or lineage he wants without having to murder the whole world. He has an ass full of miracles don't cha know.

Regards
DL

 

[Greatest I am]

Update the bible by ripping out bits you don't like and adding bits you do?? I think that would be quite impossible to happen

They did it in 360 and in many revisions since so why not?
have you not noticed hoe many versions are out there already?

Regards
DL

 

[Greatest I am]

Are you reading my posts because you're responding with thing I didn't even say.


Humans during the time of the flood were being mixed with a race of giants called the Nephilim. God saw that if he did not secure Jesus's family line, Jesus's lineage would be corrupted by them. So, he flooded the world to eradicate the tainted human beings.

Are you sure you do not believe in Jesus. Sure sound like you do.

As to Jesus being born sinless.

Mark 10 v 18 "Why do you call me good?" Jesus answered. "No one is good—except God alone.

Hebrews 5:8
Though he were a Son, yet learned he obedience by the things which he suffered;

He also disrespected his parents at the temple. So much for the commandments.

Regards
DL

 

[All Else Failed]

Are you sure you do not believe in Jesus. Sure sound like you do.

As to Jesus being born sinless.

Mark 10 v 18 "Why do you call me good?" Jesus answered. "No one is good—except God alone.

Hebrews 5:8
Though he were a Son, yet learned he obedience by the things which he suffered;

He also disrespected his parents at the temple. So much for the commandments.

Regards
DL

When I talk of Jesus I talk of him as I would talk of any other myth. I am an atheist.


Yes, he was born sinless because God eradicated the angels that mixed with people on Earth. If he did not, Jesus would not have been born sinless because Marry's lineage would have been compromised by the Nephilim.

 

[BornReady]

Update the bible by ripping out bits you don't like and adding bits you do?? I think that would be quite impossible to happen

I'm not a Christian. I don't want to update the Bible. But I think mainstream Christians should update it rather than continue to give lip service to a book they don't read and wouldn't agree with if they did. A religious book should reflect the beliefs of the adherents of that religion. With God nothing's impossible.

 

[Tuffdisc]

They did it in 360 and in many revisions since so why not?
have you not noticed hoe many versions are out there already?

Regards
DL

You seem to have not read the fact you really can't "update" anything that is written in the bible if you read the last pages of revelation, revisions really don't mean anything other than there probably were spelling mistakes or misinterpretations of what is really written in the original scripture