Man beats pedophile to death

[Tim]

Do you think he should be charged ?

Just based on what was in the paper... no.

But I don't have all the facts to really make an informed decision.

 

[The Man]

Just based on what was in the paper... no.

But I don't have all the facts to really make an informed decision.

Didnt you state in another thread that any homicide needs an arrest and trial?

 

[Tim]

Didnt you state in another thread that any homicide needs an arrest and trial?

Nope, never said that.

But I expect this from you. It seems you have a real problem with reading comprehension. But by all means, please go and look through all my posts. You won't find me saying that.

 

[The Man]

Nope, never said that.

But I expect this from you. It seems you have a real problem with reading comprehension. But by all means, please go and look through all my posts. You won't find me saying that.

No problem then..someone was harping it in one of the Zimmerman threads...must have been another member then

 

[Joe the meek]

Just based on what was in the paper... no.

But I don't have all the facts to really make an informed decision.

Ultimately, it takes some doing to beat someone to death.

One thing to hit someone and have them fall and hit their head or accidentally get impaled on something, it's another to keep striking a man until he dies.

I didn't read anything about an autopsy. I honestly don't think anyone really cares. Do think the autopsy would tell a lot about what happened. Then again, I'm certain not many care how it's written up.

However, what if I saw a man look at my wife funny and I became so enraged that I decided to shoot him?

Because we find the act of what the dead man did so repulsive, it doesn't matter how he died.

Hey, don't get me wrong, better or worse, I'm not going to lose sleep over it, but again, does a pedophile usually use force to rape their victim? And again, if one man could see what was going on with the girl being taken away, chances are that the guy taking the girl saw the other guy. In my mind, some things just don't add up, but I realize that don't mean jack.

Got to give it to the Chinese, they have a good way of getting donated organs for transplants. Perhaps it's something we should consider.

 

[Tim]

Ultimately, it takes some doing to beat someone to death.

One thing to hit someone and have them fall and hit their head or accidentally get impaled on something, it's another to keep striking a man until he dies.

I didn't read anything about an autopsy. I honestly don't think anyone really cares. Do think the autopsy would tell a lot about what happened. Then again, I'm certain not many care how it's written up.

However, what if I saw a man look at my wife funny and I became so enraged that I decided to shoot him?

Because we find the act of what the dead man did so repulsive, it doesn't matter how he died.

Hey, don't get me wrong, better or worse, I'm not going to lose sleep over it, but again, does a pedophile usually use force to rape their victim? And again, if one man could see what was going on with the girl being taken away, chances are that the guy taking the girl saw the other guy. In my mind, some things just don't add up, but I realize that don't mean jack.

Got to give it to the Chinese, they have a good way of getting donated organs for transplants. Perhaps it's something we should consider.

But here's the problem, we don't know what happened. It could have been one good hit to the head that killed him. I mean how big is this man that was doing the beating.
Hell, there was a case in NY where a man punched a cop in his chest that it stopped his heart and killed him. The cop was even wearing a bullet proof vest. So it is possible to kill a man by punching him a few times.

And this is exactly why I said I couldn't know for sure because we don't have nearly enough information.

And I do not support this kind of violence. I do not believe you have the right to take someone else life. This man should have been taken to jail for what he did.

You can understand why this happened without supporting it.

 

[The Man]

Nothing in the stories indicates a single punch...but rather beat with fists until death.

 

[Natasha]

I haven't read the last several posts so I could be repeating what someone else has already said, but 5 seconds is NOT premeditation by the letter of the law. Premeditation means that you planned a crime, the method, and ways to avoid detection. Anybody who thinks 5 seconds is enough time to regain composure and think RATIONALLY after seeing your child being molested is fooling themselves.

 

[The Man]

I haven't read the last several posts so I could be repeating what someone else has already said, but 5 seconds is NOT premeditation by the letter of the law. Premeditation means that you planned a crime, the method, and ways to avoid detection. Anybody who thinks 5 seconds is enough time to regain composure and think RATIONALLY after seeing your child being molested is fooling themselves.

That depends on where you are at.
Premeditation is merely the forethought to kill
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From article

In some states, premeditation may be construed as taking place mere seconds before the murder. Premeditated murder is usually defined as one of the most serious forms of homicide,


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Premeditated_murder

 

[Tuffdisc]

Nothing in the stories indicates a single punch...but rather beat with fists until death.

I'm not saying it was a single punch, just merely stating that a single punch could kill anyone in any given circumstances. Like I said premeditated is something that is planned, that could mean days, weeks, months or even years or even hours depending how quick the person was in planning a crime. I can't believe this was premeditated, but just anger at the situation of what the person was doing.

 

[skyblue]

As horrid as it sounds I'm not sure if I'm for the eye for an eye ideology... Put the fucker in prison and make him somebody's bitch.

and let the american taxpayer pay for his upkeep?

 

[Joe the meek]

You can understand why this happened without supporting it.

The problem is that 50 years ago people people could understand why a mob of white people would string up "niggers" without supporting it.

It there was any "truth" to find, I highly doubt anyone is really looking for it.

 

[The Man]

I'm not saying it was a single punch, just merely stating that a single punch could kill anyone in any given circumstances. Like I said premeditated is something that is planned, that could mean days, weeks, months or even years or even hours depending how quick the person was in planning a crime. I can't believe this was premeditated, but just anger at the situation of what the person was doing.

I'm not saying it was a single punch, just merely stating that a single punch could kill anyone in any given circumstances

I didnt say you did I was responding to Tim

I said premeditated is something that is planned, that could mean days, weeks, months or even years or even hours depending how quick the person was in planning a crime.

Dont forget minutes and seconds as shown in prior link

 

[Leananshee]

However, what if I saw a man look at my wife funny and I became so enraged that I decided to shoot him?

You'd likely be charged with murder one. On the other hand, were you to walk in on her with him in the bedroom and you killed them both in the heat of the moment it would be considered a crime of passion. Check your own state laws for how those are handled.

Mind you, back to the case at hand, if the man hadn't witnessed the crime in progress I'd be of a different opinion. People don't have the right to take the law into their own hands. They DO, on the other hand, have the codified right to defend themselves and their families.

And Tim, while I respect that you think killing is at all times wrong, I still have to submit that it is sometimes necessary. The instances thereof are few and far between but they are there. Hell will open wide for the poor schmuck who makes the mistake of invading my home and/or threatening my family.

 

[Tuffdisc]

To be honest, it isn't really good to speculate what a person might be charged with. I think we have to let justice take its own course

 

[Tim]

And Tim, while I respect that you think killing is at all times wrong, I still have to submit that it is sometimes necessary. The instances thereof are few and far between but they are there. Hell will open wide for the poor schmuck who makes the mistake of invading my home and/or threatening my family.

I'm pretty sure I have never said that.

Because I know for a fact if it came down to killing someone in protection of my family I would do it. That doesn't make me homicidal and it doesn't mean I'm a pacifist either.

If someone was trying to break into my home or was coming after my family I would do what was needed to protect them. But I also value life and wouldn't resort to deadly force unless absolutely necessary. But have no doubts as to my commitment to protecting them

But I wouldn't just kill someone from invading my home because I can legally.

 

[Dana]

and let the american taxpayer pay for his upkeep?

You're late to the party dude