Lions & Tigers & Bears Oh My.

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AUFred

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Does seem like they could have tried to spare the animals.
 
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Bunch of dipshit rednecks shooting fish in a barrell. This was a knee jerk reaction. Most of those animals probably could have been enticed back to their pens with food, and the rest tranquilized. You can see they were shot right in their compound in proximity with their pens. This was wrong.
 

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The county sheriff himself said it was "senseless killings".

How many tranquilizer guns does everyone's (here on this forum) county have in it's possession?

From news accounts, the owner of the property intentionally let the animals go and then killed himself. Who will know the real story?

From news accounts, they had to search for the animals at night as well. I don't think you'll find anyone who loves animals as much as I do, but considering these were 300lb plus carnivores, you kind of have to really know what your doing with them. Don't think many county sheriffs get training on how to deal with tigers and lions.

Think about it, a tiger is out chasing a horse (as the news reported), exactly how much time does law enforcement wait for the proper tools and properly trained people to show up to try and take care of the situation? I don't know the whole story, but I got to admit, if I knew there was going to be a chance a tiger or lion would be on my property, the .45-70 is coming out and chances are I'm shooting first, asking questions later.

HOPEFULLY, this sad event will lead to stronger laws not only in Ohio, but the rest of the nation as far as people owning exotic animals.

From news accounts, some animals were tried to be taken alive, but it didn't work, AND some animals were actually taken alive.
 

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this is very sad...but the fact that there is a monkey at large...made me think of this

[video=youtube;c1dPIfra9DY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1dPIfra9DY[/video]
 

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The county sheriff himself said it was "senseless killings".

How many tranquilizer guns does everyone's (here on this forum) county have in it's possession?

From news accounts, the owner of the property intentionally let the animals go and then killed himself. Who will know the real story?

From news accounts, they had to search for the animals at night as well. I don't think you'll find anyone who loves animals as much as I do, but considering these were 300lb plus carnivores, you kind of have to really know what your doing with them. Don't think many county sheriffs get training on how to deal with tigers and lions.

Think about it, a tiger is out chasing a horse (as the news reported), exactly how much time does law enforcement wait for the proper tools and properly trained people to show up to try and take care of the situation? I don't know the whole story, but I got to admit, if I knew there was going to be a chance a tiger or lion would be on my property, the .45-70 is coming out and chances are I'm shooting first, asking questions later.

HOPEFULLY, this sad event will lead to stronger laws not only in Ohio, but the rest of the nation as far as people owning exotic animals.

From news accounts, some animals were tried to be taken alive, but it didn't work, AND some animals were actually taken alive.

You hit the nail on the head.

( that coming from a die hard animal lover as well )

Unfortunately the knee-jerk reaction for people is to condemn the authorities for killing animals. Most times it isn't justified but in a case like this time and inexperience isn't on their side. If someone was attacked by one of the critters all hell would break loose and every cowboy would be running around trying to bag a wall hanger.
 

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I would safely bet that if it happened here, the cops/authorities/animal control people WOULD have had the right equipm ent on hand to round them up as safely as possible without having to shoot them ALL:mad
 

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I would safely bet that if it happened here, the cops/authorities/animal control people WOULD have had the right equipm ent on hand to round them up as safely as possible without having to shoot them ALL:mad

" Humane Society doesn't fault Ohio authorities in animal deaths "

Read on.......

http://www.cnn.com/2011/10/19/us/ohio-animals/index.html?hpt=us_c1

PETA was also quoted in the article and amazingly I actually agree with them for once.

" "Keeping exotic animals is inhumane and unsafe for both animals and people, and it's time that Ohio did something about it," PETA said. "
 

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" Humane Society doesn't fault Ohio authorities in animal deaths "

Read on.......

http://www.cnn.com/2011/10/19/us/ohio-animals/index.html?hpt=us_c1

PETA was also quoted in the article and amazingly I actually agree with them for once.

" "Keeping exotic animals is inhumane and unsafe for both animals and people, and it's time that Ohio did something about it," PETA said. "

Yes, keeping exotic animals is inhumane....so's shooting the shit out of them. Surely the majority of them could have been rounded up and put in zoos or wildlife reserves or something?
 

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Of course the LEO apologists have weighed in. That was bullshit to just shoot all those animals outright. They were so domesticated that they were damned near all shot right on the farm. They probably were all close range shots - and every animal control office in every medium sized and larger U.S. city has tranquilizer guns.

The sheriff told an afternoon press conference that as many as 56 animals on the farm may have been set loose. Authorities tracked down and killed 48 of them: 18 rare Bengal tigers, 17 lions, six black bears, three mountain lions, two grizzlies, one wolf and one baboon.

Doesn't sound like it was much of a challenge to kill these animals:

Lutz said that when the deputies arrived, there was about an hour and a half of daylight left. He said officers had to shoot some animals at close range with their sidearms.

"Close range with side arms......"

It appears that no reasonable effort was made to re-pen the animals - the sheriff gave the "shoot to kill" order before he even made it to the farm to assess the situation according to one news account:

"I gave the order on the way here that if animals looked like they were going out, they went down ...

I reckon all 48 "looked like they were going out".

There's too much ass covering going on in the aftermath. It doesn't seem to all add up.

Maybe I'm mistaken and they did what was right, but it looks like a redneck Barney Fife clusterfuck from where I sit. Truly, the real fault lies with the state of Ohio for allowing this guy to amass so many freaking African and other wild animals in the first place.

Can't change what happened, but maybe the Ohio state legislature with pull its collective head out of its ass and get the law changed to stop people from collecting these animals.
 

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They probably thought all their christmases had come at once...."we got us some real live huntin anjimals here boys...bet I can take down that vicious ol lion there with one shot":mad
 

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Maybe I'm mistaken and they did what was right, but it looks like a redneck Barney Fife clusterfuck from where I sit. Truly, the real fault lies with the state of Ohio for allowing this guy to amass so many freaking African and other wild animals in the first place.

Um... did you even read the article I posted?

I'm starting to think it was another conspiracy. First the SPCA sides with the law and then PETA. What the hell is this world coming to when cops can get away with using some common sense for a change and god forbid they should try and be proactive with a few wild beasts.

Can't change what happened, but maybe the Ohio state legislature with pull its collective head out of its ass and get the law changed to stop people from collecting these animals.

That's the key right there but what about the rest of the states or is it just people fro Ohio that keep wild animals?
 
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