Let's Be Like Pakistan!

[Minor Axis]

I love being lectured by a xenophobic, prejudiced, male chauvinist, religious zealot. This illustrates what can happen when you allow an extreme version of religion to take over your government. To be fair though, it's not the religion, it's the people practicing the religion. I sincerely believe it is possible to be a reasonable live-and-let-live Muslim. They just happen to be in short supply in the Middle East.

Summary: If you are not a male Muslim in Pakistan you can eat shit.
Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_religion_in_Pakistan
Link: http://articles.latimes.com/2010/dec/27/world/la-fg-pakistan-blasphemy-20101227
Link: http://www.heritage.org/index/country/Pakistan

Religious tolerance: Non Existent

December 27, 2010|
Reporting from Nankana Sahib, Pakistan — Muslim cleric Muhammad Salim isn't worried that a court or Pakistan's president might spare a Christian woman from this village who has been sentenced to death on blasphemy charges. After all, if Asia Bibi, a mother of two, escapes the hangman's noose, he's confident someone else will kill her. "Any Muslim, if given the chance, would kill such a person," Salim said calmly, seated cross-legged on a straw mat at a mosque here. "You would be rewarded in heaven for it."

This month in the southern city of Hyderabad, a Shiite Muslim doctor was arrested on blasphemy charges after police received a complaint that he had maligned the prophet Muhammad. His crime? He tossed out the business card of a pharmaceutical company representative whose first name, Muhammad, was printed on it. The doctor belongs to the smaller Shiite sect known as Ismailis.

Holding Political Office if not Muslim: Forget About it

non-Muslims still are barred from voting for Muslim candidates who run for general seats.

Oppression of women: High

According to a police official, in a majority of rape cases, the victims are pressured to drop rape charges because of the threat of Hudood adultery charges being brought against them.

Likewise, the testimony of women, Muslim or non-Muslim, is not admissible in cases involving Hadd punishments. Therefore, if a Muslim man rapes a Muslim woman in the presence of women or non-Muslim men, he cannot be convicted under the Hudood Ordinances.

Corruption: High

Corruption is perceived as pervasive. Pakistan ranks 139th out of 180 countries in Transparency International’s Corruption Perceptions Index for 2009. The perception of corruption has worsened in the past year, with the police, land administration institutions, the judiciary, education, and local governments regarded as the most corrupt public-sector institutions.

 

[retro]

But wait... I thought that Pakistan was incredibly tolerant to other religions. Maz said I could be a Christian and not suffer any persecution whatsoever as long as I obeyed the laws. Oh wait, the laws state that I can't blaspheme Islam, which I would do by simply being a Christian.

 

[Tangerine]

But wait... I thought that Pakistan was incredibly tolerant to other religions. Maz said I could be a Christian and not suffer any persecution whatsoever as long as I obeyed the laws. Oh wait, the laws state that I can't blaspheme Islam, which I would do by simply being a Christian.

Off with your head.

 

[retro]

Off with your head.

That would be the Pakistani answer for a religious and political dissident like I would be if I had the complete misfortune of having to live there.

 

[Minor Axis]

That is how primitive intolerant people deal with dissent.
I kill you. All better now. God like killing in his name. Me, God's friend.

 

[retro]

That is how primitive intolerant people deal with dissent.
I kill you. All better now. God like killing in his name. Me, God's friend.

Pakistan is still living in the bronze age... maybe even earlier. Well, bronze age mentality... with nuclear weapons. Doesn't it scare the shit out of you that people like maz have their finger on the button?

 

[mazHur]

I love being lectured by a xenophobic, prejudiced, male chauvinist, religious zealot. This illustrates what can happen when you allow an extreme version of religion to take over your government. To be fair though, it's not the religion, it's the people practicing the religion. I sincerely believe it is possible to be a reasonable live-and-let-live Muslim. They just happen to be in short supply in the Middle East.

Summary: If you are not a male Muslim in Pakistan you can eat shit.
Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_religion_in_Pakistan
Link: http://articles.latimes.com/2010/dec/27/world/la-fg-pakistan-blasphemy-20101227
Link: http://www.heritage.org/index/country/Pakistan

Religious tolerance: Non Existent Holding Political Office if not Muslim: Forget About it Oppression of women: High Corruption: High

Copy-paste, copy-paste copy-paste....nothing new or Original!!:thumbdown

The intelligence and soundness of a person's mind becomes questionable when he ignores the facts and circumstances of the case and keeps flogging a dead horse!!:yuk

 

[mazHur]

That is how primitive intolerant people deal with dissent.
I kill you. All better now. God like killing in his name. Me, God's friend.

Crusade is what is meant by Jihad...:thumbup understand??

 

[retro]

Actually, all he did was copy and paste some links to articles to back his point up. You on the other hand, copy/paste entire articles that are completely unrelated. Do try to keep up, it's getting tiresome having to explain everything to you.

 

[Minor Axis]

Pakistan is still living in the bronze age... maybe even earlier. Well, bronze age mentality... with nuclear weapons. Doesn't it scare the shit out of you that people like maz have their finger on the button?

Any zealot with a nuke, especially a religious zealot who thinks they act in God's name scares me shitless. It would be the highest of ironies, if such a zealot after setting off events that destroys civiization as we know it, walked through the gates of heaven expecting a celestial party only to cast into the depths of fiery Hell for eternal torment and damnation. They'd deserve it.

Copy-paste, copy-paste copy-paste....nothing new or Original!!:thumbdown

The intelligence and soundness of a person's mind becomes questionable when he ignores the facts and circumstances of the case and keeps flogging a dead horse!!:yuk

We are supposed to glady watch your never ending river of copy and past articles and videos used to make your points? Lol! You've all ready said that Pakistan's religious laws and how they concern women are perfectly reasonable. Until you can admit your own countries flaws, then go sell your 10th century views to a receptive audience. They are not here.

 

[Alien Allen]

This thread is awesome

 

[retro]

Crusade is what is meant by Jihad...:thumbup understand??

So killing innocent people in the name of "Allah" is perfectly acceptable? You think it was alright for Muslim terrorists to fly planes into the World Trade enter? Was it okay for Muslim Terrorists to blow up a train station in Madrid? Was it okay for Muslim terrorists to blow up the baggage claim area of the Moscow airport yesterday?

All of those were done in the name of Allah, so they must be acceptable to you. Just like the murder of innocent women that did nothing wrong but be born in your disgusting backwards excuse for a country. Then be raped by your disgusting fellow Pakistani citizens, who just like yourself, are stuck in the bronze age, or even further back.

 

[retro]

Any zealot with a nuke, especially a religious zealot who thinks they act in God's name scares me shitless. It would be the highest of ironies, if such a zealot after setting off events that destroys civiization as we know it, walked through the gates of heaven expecting a celestial party only to cast into the depths of fiery Hell for eternal torment and damnation. They'd deserve it.

I hope that hell for them is a room full of horny gay virgin men. Oh wait, most of them would probably enjoy that. :willy_nilly:

 

[mazHur]

Awful indeed!! Nothing there to debate about....all bullshit and rhetoric!

a useless thread repeating things which have been discussed earlier a thousand times!! :yuk:

 

[retro]

Awful indeed!! Nothing there to debate about....all bullshit and rhetoric!

a useless thread repeating things which have been discussed earlier a thousand times!! :yuk:

No, AA said it was "awesome", not "awful". I have to agree with him on this one. So why don't you leave OTz?

 

[mazHur]

You and your cronies are not God or God's assignees at OTZ and your pushing me to toe your line is highly offensive and derogatory not only for me but for you as well who brag about human rights and freedom of speech, etc!!

will learned mods take a notice of these unwarranted threats???

 

[retro]

You and your cronies are not God or God's assignees at OTZ and your pushing me to toe your line is highly offensive and derogatory not only for me but for you as well who brag about human rights and freedom of speech, etc!!

will learned mods take a notice of these unwarranted threats???

Nobody is threatening you. We're simply asking you to leave, or asking why you haven't left. Go read the new rules of the forum... you're the one in jeopardy of being banned, not any of us.

 

[mazHur]

YOU and your cronies have NO Right to ask me that. That obviously smacks of hatred, bias and racism and warrant you to be banned.

 

[retro]

YOU and your cronies have NO Right to ask me that. That obviously smacks of hatred, bias and racism and warrant you to be banned.

We're racist because we can't stand the fact that you support the oppression of women in the name of religion? Hardly. We espouse hatred because you don't respect you? Again, hardly. We have every right to ask you why you haven't left, or to leave. Your views are abhorrent to 99% of the posters here, and you serve no purpose other than to make us all realize that you're a religious zealot.

 

[Dana]

I like how he cries racism when nobody brought up race... my 2 cents.