KARACHI IN $1. -- A WONDERFUL CITY TO VISIT.

[Stone]

Gangs consist of drug and land mafia and exortionists....nobody has invaded their territory but situation with Taliban is different. They believe they are fighting a war against the invaders and occupiers...

Gangs are not the same ethnic race as the Taliban,,,and they cannot intrude into Taliban areas,,,,where even armies fear to go...so there must be some reason why Talibans haven't been eliminated despite US waging war on them for the last 12 or more years....

You posted how dangerous Karachi is in another thread and a link in your post stated Taliban members were active in Karachi and even ambush the police.


Your own posts out you as a liar, mazHur Butt.

 

[mazHur]

It was an act of jihad by al Qaeda. I even posted the source of that claim in another thread.

Which Jihad?? There is No central command among Muslims to declare Jihad..

Al Quaida must be misusing this term which stands for 'holy war''.....just like crusades wherein every able bodied Muslim is bound to participate....but all do not..
Al quada and Taliban are just handful of Saudi-minded rebels...

 

[Stone]

It' s not fucking wonderful at all....but Pak is in a state of war...a fron line ally fighting your proxy war, On top of this internal problems...

Disguise or not, the foreigners especially the Americans cannot move out of their conclaves,,,,,but if you still want to come to Karachi , Peshawar or Quetta you would need an armed escort of at least 100!!

but Pak is in a state of war...a fron line ally fighting your proxy war,

Just like a propaganda robot, the same rhetoric time and time again.




I seriously doubt any members of OTZ besides yourself is interested in vacationing in Karachi

 

[The Man]

Bombing twin towers was not an act of Jihad,.....it was a terrorist act or according to some conspiracy theories 'state terrorism'....

Sure it was if they didnt consider us an enemy then why did they attack us.
Unless you claim it was just for fun..take your pick.

 

[The Man]

It' s not fucking wonderful at all..

Then why do you have a thread stating it is?

 

[Stone]

Karachi is a megapolis suffering from weak and corrupt administration...otherwise it's the commercial and industrial hub of Pakistan,..All Nato supplies are landed and transported to your NATO forces right from here....
Calling it a shit hole is bad....too bad as it feeds NATO forces in Afg ....

It's still a shit hole.
If you'd never posted that first thread on Karachi, neither Man nor I would have bothered to research the topic, you might have pulled off this thread just the slightest bit..
That's lost, now.
See the value of critical thinking

 

[mazHur]

You posted how dangerous Karachi is in another thread and a link in your post stated Taliban members were active in Karachi and even ambush the police.


Your own posts out you as a liar, mazHur Butt.

I posted two articles from a newspaper....to show you both sides of the picture.

Yes, a handful of Taliban have been said to have intruded into outskirts of Karachi disguised as locals....they are mainly Afg...and very much resemble theri Pakistani cousins the Pashtuns ... Counterproductivity of war on terror has spread this menace this city .....and it will grow if more refugees cross Afg-Pak border and settle down at scattered spots in the country.....

These guys are not distinguihable from their peaceful cousins...and perform bombings etc covertly ....


they don't like our military and other law enforcing agencies because they are helping NATO fight the war on terror....they take them as traitors and spies and would kill them whenever possible as they would NATO soldiers...

 

[The Man]

.but Pak is in a state of war...a fron line ally fighting your proxy war, On top of this internal problems...
!

You have that backwards. ..we are fighting your war.
Never mind thats right pk is a terrorist haven that is allowed to leagally operate in pk.
Oh well we are killing terrorists. ...whose fucking side are you on anyway...the terrorists or the peoples???

 

[mazHur]

Then why do you have a thread stating it is?

the article is a dossier written by foreign team of sojournes and reflects upon the civil life in Karachi,,,,
You are not justified in comparing it with militant activities in Karachi or Pakistan...

Talibans have their own targets -sectarian, military, political , religious etc --and usually do not try to harm single or unconcerned chappies...

 

[mazHur]

You have that backwards. ..we are fighting your war.
Never mind thats right pk is a terrorist haven that is allowed to leagally operate in pk.
Oh well we are killing terrorists. ...whose fucking side are you on anyway...the terrorists or the peoples???

you are NOT fighting our war,,,you are avenging 9/11....

Most of the people in Afg=Pak want you to get out of there and that's what you are doing after 12 years of fruitless warring and killing...

I am not with the terrorists....but with my country.

 

[The Man]

Gangs consist of drug and land mafia and exortionists....nobody has invaded their territory but situation with Taliban is different. They believe they are fighting a war against the invaders and occupiers...

If you didnt give them land to operate in no on would be invading would they..
Why in the fuck should terrorists be given land that others can not enter?

 

[mazHur]

Pew Research (2007): 26% of younger Muslims in America believe suicide bombings are justified.
35% of young Muslims in Britain believe suicide bombings are justified (24% overall).
42% of young Muslims in France believe suicide bombings are justified (35% overall).
22% of young Muslims in Germany believe suicide bombings are justified.(13% overall).
29% of young Muslims in Spain believe suicide bombings are justified.(25% overall).
http://pewresearch.org/assets/pdf/muslim-americans.pdf#page=60

 

[Stone]

Which Jihad?? There is No central command among Muslims to declare Jihad..

Al Quaida must be misusing this term which stands for 'holy war''.....just like crusades wherein every able bodied Muslim is bound to participate....but all do not..
Al quada and Taliban are just handful of Saudi-minded rebels...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Qaeda

Al-Qaeda (/ælˈkaɪdə/ al-KY-də; Arabic: القاعدة‎ al-qāʿidah, Arabic: [ælqɑːʕɪdɐ], translation: "The Base" and alternatively spelled al-Qaida and sometimes al-Qa'ida) is a global militant Islamist and takfiri organization founded by Osama bin Laden, Abdullah Azzam,[24] and several other militants,[25] in Peshawar, Pakistan ,[26] at some point between August 1988[27] and late 1989,[25] with its origins being traceable to the Soviet War in Afghanistan.[28

It operates as a network comprising both a multinational, stateless army[29] and a radical Sunni Muslim movement calling for global jihad and a strict interpretation of sharia law.

There you have it again, mazHur Butt the flawed sophist.

Al Quaida must be misusing this term which stands for 'holy war''

They are obviously using the term correctly.

 

[Stone]

Then why do you have a thread stating it is?

His Taliban handler misspoke

 

[mazHur]

If you didnt give them land to operate in no on would be invading would they..
Why in the fuck should terrorists be given land that others can not enter?

We have given YOU access to our land...and your forces are there. Ask them why don't they kill Talibans there as well as in Afg??

You don't read my postings properly other wise you should not have asked such a foolish question...I had told you that our govt has NO writ in Taliban controlled areas....that's like Wild West...where Constitution of Pakistan is not accepted ..

 

[The Man]

Gangs are not the same ethnic race as the Taliban,,,and they cannot intrude into Taliban areas,,,..

So not only are they terrorists they are racist terrorists.
Why should your gang members honor the talibans request of no entry?

 

[The Man]

Karachi is a megapolis suffering from weak and corrupt administration...otherwise it's the commercial and industrial hub of Pakistan,..All Nato supplies are landed and transported to your NATO forces right from here....
Calling it a shit hole is bad....too bad as it feeds NATO forces in Afg ....

You left out gangs and the taliban

 

[Stone]

I posted two articles from a newspaper....to show you both sides of the picture.

Yes, a handful of Taliban have been said to have intruded into outskirts of Karachi disguised as locals....they are mainly Afg...and very much resemble theri Pakistani cousins the Pashtuns ... Counterproductivity of war on terror has spread this menace this city .....and it will grow if more refugees cross Afg-Pak border and settle down at scattered spots in the country.....

These guys are not distinguihable from their peaceful cousins...and perform bombings etc covertly ....


they don't like our military and other law enforcing agencies because they are helping NATO fight the war on terror....they take them as traitors and spies and would kill them whenever possible as they would NATO soldiers...

I posted two articles from a newspaper....to show you both sides of the picture.

And how does that rationalize you lying about the Taliban movement not being in Karachi?

Yes, a handful of Taliban have been said to have intruded into outskirts of Karachi disguised as locals.

They were killing off your police force!!!!!!!

These guys are not distinguihable from their peaceful cousins...and perform bombings etc covertly

So why lie and claim they aren't there?

 

[mazHur]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Qaeda






There you have it again, mazHur Butt the flawed sophist.



They are obviously using the term correctly.

No,,,,you are misconstruing the term and trying to force it on all Muslims..

Taliband are a different sect of Muslims...Saudi style...Rest of the world's Muslims do not accept them either as their 'leaders' or their 'creed and beliefs''...

for ex Iran is Shia and Talibans are fierce enemies of Shia's and other Muslim sects...

You are simply Islamophobic.....I can see you pee in your pants//

 

[Stone]

the article is a dossier written by foreign team of sojournes and reflects upon the civil life in Karachi,,,,
You are not justified in comparing it with militant activities in Karachi or Pakistan...

Talibans have their own targets -sectarian, military, political , religious etc --and usually do not try to harm single or unconcerned chappies...

Double speak for ' damn, you caught me in another lie'