It is a real shame what the youth of today has come to...

[Mercury]

You know, I read an opinion article on this topic that had a perspective I hadn't thought of. This woman was suppose to be a school bus monitor. When you think of it.....she wasn't doing her job. YES, their treatment was dispicable...but she also never really talked to them in an authoritative was either............

Just another perspective.........I think she should not be in this position with this age group.

A good point ... she probably would be better suited in grade school age group ... however, even they can be pretty nasty ...


I guess it all boils down to the individual students and their raising ... or lack there of.

 

[Mercury]

I'm sure it did happen years ago and like someone said...we just didn't have the internet back then.

I know this isn't to the level we're speaking here but this happened in my family recently:

the day after our wedding (so 2 weeks tomorrow) there were still 25 or so people around our summer place, camping and extending their vaca.

Supper was being served and there was a huge variety...meatballs, lasagna, turkey, ham, salads, fish, hamburgers and hot dogs and plenty of everything. My 11 year old niece wanted to go 5 miles down the road to the take out place for chicken fingers. Her mother, exhausted from the busy week, told her no, there was plenty available..to just have what's made.

My niece kept it up and hounded her parents and grandparents, and they all agreed, there was enough available, she didn't need to go anywhere else...well, she flipped. She told everyone they were fucking idiots, she hated them, they all were so mean to here, and told her grandmother (who is beyond good to these kids) that she's a fucking dummy and she fucking hates her and shoved her and stomped out (my niece was cursing like that).

She was in her room for the night and her parents left early the next morning.

The grandparents (my parents in law) live down the street and get the kids off to school in the mornings, make breakfast for them, have lunch ready, etc. When my niece arrived, they told her she wasn't allowed in until she apologized....she lost it again and said she didn't owe anyone an apology. It's 2 weeks now and she STILL hasn't said sorry and she's still not allowed in her grandparents' house.

It's becoming a huge family issue, everyone is taking sides and discussing it in great detail and arguments are developing among everyone...some say it should just blow over and some say she should be made apologize, and she's sitting back laughing thinking she's going to get her way - which, sadly, she probably will.

THAT is a huge lack of respect and if it does just "blow over" she'll only get worse, knowing she can get away with things like this. I don't think she's the only kid 'out there' these days that behaves this way and THAT is why people like this bus driver and other 'strangers' get the harassment they do...it's not stopped at home, so they feel they are allowed to behave this shitty way.

Wow ... yeah, I would say the Grandparents are DEFINITELY doing the right thing here. Hopefully they don't let it "blow over" or she will probably end up being one of those people who start cursing and yelling at a McDonald's employee for forgetting a piece of their order ... when I witness such events, I always wonder if they were a spoiled brat as a child ...

 

[Francis]

The grandparents (my parents in law) live down the street and get the kids off to school in the mornings, make breakfast for them, have lunch ready, etc. When my niece arrived, they told her she wasn't allowed in until she apologized....she lost it again and said she didn't owe anyone an apology. It's 2 weeks now and she STILL hasn't said sorry and she's still not allowed in her grandparents' house.

I saw this when I replied on the last one but I was on my tablet and could not get what I wanted done properly so I gave up until now on my laptop..

I cut this out to be clear about what I want to mention..

As others have mention GREAT job from the Grandparents.. Good for them for sticking up for what they believe and said they would do.. I wish more people would have a greater spine in such situations..

That being said, where are the parents and what are they doing ? Are they putting consequences and placing more until the issue is rectified.. If the parents do nothing to help the situation get resolved they basically will be condoning this by not showing they have control over their daughter.

Personally the rest of the family, IMO, should stay out of it.. To many opinions of how to deal with kid issues can only make matters worse.. Adults, just like kids, don't like to admit they have no control over things, especially their precious little ones..

It takes a heck of a lot of diplomacy to bring up such a topic to a parent having issues and the frontal approach ( confrontational ) is never a good one.. Again, just my opinion..

 

[Francis]

Video at the link.

the kids are to face "disciplinary action" ?? these fuckers need to learn some respect towards older citizens along with a good dose of an ass beating.

If i EVER found out my kids are acting like this to an older individual, and being as fucking cruel as these little shits, i swear to god, they would forever know the meaning of an ass beating, they'd have nightmares over it LOL

on the more serious side, is this what the youth has come to? Really??? i mean being such little shits, disrespectful and so fucking rude? and the bus driver? why didn't he/she do anything about this?

This literally made my lose my appetite right before i was to go to lunch...

I have to ask.. When my son was bullied on the school bus I was all over the school bus company on why the bus driver had not reported the abuse my son had been suffering for the 3 days ?

Most school buses here all have HD Cameras on them that do video when the bus is running and it is save on a Solid State Drive with over 12 hrs capacity so that each day it can be downloaded at the yard if any issues occurred on the bus.

The bus driver has a responsibility to report such bully tactics to the school..

There should be a Zero tolerance for any of this stuff period..

And yah I have warned my son that if he is the one who starts such bullying on a bus, at school or in a park he will be dealing with me and some pretty harsh consequences.. He already has and that's why he had not clocked any of the kids out of fear on the bus yet, which he know understand that it's ok to protect yourself..

 

[Joe the meek]

What can you do to the kids if you're not their parents? Talk them to death and put them on suspension?

This crap happened on school buses 30 years ago.

 

[Mercury]

It's ridiculous the compensation she'll get for doing nothing.

Nothing because her hands are tied by a ridiculous society that will defend kids even when they are obviously at fault ...

What can you do to the kids if you're not their parents? Talk them to death and put them on suspension?.

Precisely ... the ability to discipline students is not as available as it once was ...

 

[redliner]

I'll join the Devil's Advocate circle.

You know those rules in life that we all hate, but they exist because "if we do it for one person, we have to do it for everyone"? This is what scares me about this situation. Once people see the overtly large sum of money this lady is going to get, what is stopping people from coming up with very similar situations, faking them, posting them and collecting cash? I figure there are thousands of scammy people saying to themselves right now "man, there has to be a way I can pull off something like this". Half a million (or possibly more) is rather alluring.

Another thing that bothers me is that I think the donations for this women as less about love for her, and more about hatred of the kids who did it. Let's face it - lots of people HATE the kids of today. This is an awesome excuse for many to passively take out that frustration....and this situation certainly has riled high levels of frustration/hatred.

What if the donors were given two choices..... 1) the donated money goes to the old lady, or 2) the donated money goes to punishing those kids. Which would they choose???? I think many people donated money as some form of punishment for the kids. Just my opinion.

If the video was of 3-4 people in their 60's saying what the kids said to this women, would people still have resonated to the situation? That video probably would not even go viral.

I was as mad as the next person about what happened to this lady and completely support her getting some sort of support for what she went through, but come on, we all know there are 1000's of people every day who endure much worse abuse who will never see a penny - this was just the perfect storm.

Are those kids complete assholes who deserve to be taught a lesson? yes
Do I feel bad for the lady? yes
Do I think she deserves a half million for what she went through? Nope

Ask yourself.....if you knew your granny was going to be compensated in the $500,000-$1,000,000 range for 10 minutes of verbal abuse, would you still step in and stop the abuse or would you just whisper in grandmas ear "tough it out - it's gonna be so worth it!!"? There are actually some people out there who would let the abuse happen for that sum of money, which tells me it's too large an amount.

 

[Aeval]

I saw this when I replied on the last one but I was on my tablet and could not get what I wanted done properly so I gave up until now on my laptop..

I cut this out to be clear about what I want to mention..

As others have mention GREAT job from the Grandparents.. Good for them for sticking up for what they believe and said they would do.. I wish more people would have a greater spine in such situations..

That being said, where are the parents and what are they doing ? Are they putting consequences and placing more until the issue is rectified.. If the parents do nothing to help the situation get resolved they basically will be condoning this by not showing they have control over their daughter.

Personally the rest of the family, IMO, should stay out of it.. To many opinions of how to deal with kid issues can only make matters worse.. Adults, just like kids, don't like to admit they have no control over things, especially their precious little ones..

It takes a heck of a lot of diplomacy to bring up such a topic to a parent having issues and the frontal approach ( confrontational ) is never a good one.. Again, just my opinion..

I agree with you 100%. Everyone should stay out of it, it's something the parents should handle and I can't understand why they're letting their daughter slide the way she is.

The parents: they use the excuse that they have 3 very active kids, and the father works away about 9 months of the year and the mother works full time. To me, there should always be enough time to properly discipline, but to them....I guess this isn't high on the priority list, they look at it as kids being kids. I don't know...I'm one of the family members that are staying out of it, but it really bothers me that it got this far.

They're going to have such problems with this girl.

 

[AnitaBeer]

I don't think anyone knows what a monitor does. When I was younger, the monitor just sat there and made sure the younger kids got on and off the bus and made sure no one was being hurt. It's not like they can smack the crap out of the kids or anything!

Also, how do you all know what she does every other day she's on that bus? Just because you see this one clip, where she's crying and obviously is at a loss of what to do, doesn't mean she doesn't do anything.
Wow.

She's specifically stated that she doesn't want to press charges with the police, but there is a report into the school for the kids to be disciplined.

Those damn kids need some ass beating is what it is. And I still can't get over some of you saying she's not doing her job....sad. Wonder what you would do in her situation, you know, given you can't lay a hand on a single kid.

 

[NoDak]

I can't help but say that, out of all of us, none knows everything about this lady's duties or the circumstances surrounding these few minutes of video.
For someone as young as Anita, she sure shows a lot of common sense. Reps to her!

 

[redliner]

Agree with NoDak nuff said

 

[Kyle B]

I don't think anyone knows what a monitor does. When I was younger, the monitor just sat there and made sure the younger kids got on and off the bus and made sure no one was being hurt. It's not like they can smack the crap out of the kids or anything!

Also, how do you all know what she does every other day she's on that bus? Just because you see this one clip, where she's crying and obviously is at a loss of what to do, doesn't mean she doesn't do anything.
Wow.

She's specifically stated that she doesn't want to press charges with the police, but there is a report into the school for the kids to be disciplined.

Those damn kids need some ass beating is what it is. And I still can't get over some of you saying she's not doing her job....sad. Wonder what you would do in her situation, you know, given you can't lay a hand on a single kid.

What they really should have done is turned that bus around, gone back to the school, and had the troublesome kids removed.

 

[Tim]

Actually it would be nice to hole the parents accountable.

 

[Francis]

I agree with you 100%. Everyone should stay out of it, it's something the parents should handle and I can't understand why they're letting their daughter slide the way she is.

The parents: they use the excuse that they have 3 very active kids, and the father works away about 9 months of the year and the mother works full time. To me, there should always be enough time to properly discipline, but to them....I guess this isn't high on the priority list, they look at it as kids being kids. I don't know...I'm one of the family members that are staying out of it, but it really bothers me that it got this far.

They're going to have such problems with this girl.

Aww man... They think they will have a problem with that girl. No they just gave carte blanche to all their kid to run all over them.. Kids find a weak spot in parents and now all of them will abuse it.. This will only be the start.. Yes some may not be as bad but you watch them, each kid will find a way to etch away at each parent to get away with more and more.. They just signed away a death warrant..

 

[Mercury]

She could have at least reported the kids for the school to discipline but in her interviews she admitted that she has done nothing about this behavior. I'm just a little angry with everyone in this situation: the kids, their parents, and even the monitor because she's been collecting paychecks for riding the bus.

Good point ... In a way, I suppose she was also "enabling" their actions.

 

[Mercury]

Wonder what you would do in her situation, you know, given you can't lay a hand on a single kid.

True ... not only that but it seems that adults are now burdened with having proof of students acting out. In this case, if there wasn't a video of it, all she could do would be to report it and if the parents decided to fight it, the kids would probably get away with it ...

 

[skyblue]

ok...imagine that was your mother/grandmother,forget rules political correctness etc.....what would you have done?

 

[Mercury]

ok...imagine that was your mother/grandmother,forget rules political correctness etc.....what would you have done?

Those who typically forget about rules, laws and the like end up in trouble. However, had I been riding in that bus and witnessed what was going on, I would have scared the living crap out of them.

 

[hart]

I would have told the bus driver to stop the bus. I then would have made the kids change seats.......they were acting TOGETHER, apart they would not have egged each other on. Then if they started up again I would again have stopped the bus each and every time it happened. That's what a monitor has the right to do and if complaints came the bus was late the parents would have found out why.......

 

[Panacea]

I get the sense the people in charge (monitor and bus driver) have been forced to determine the kids on the bus are unruly and there's nothing you can do but try to get through it.

This happens a lot in life- people stop trying to fight what seems to be a losing battle.
And the assholes wins.