Is it ok to be proud of your skin color?

[Dana]

Apparently this whole "debate" all hinges upon what your connotations are for being "proud". I've seen various valid definitions of the word.

I am on the side of the fence that attributes pride to being a good feeling that is the result of an accomplishment. You can be proud of a job you did. You can be proud of your child's academia. You can be proud that you reached an athletic goal. Those are the types of things I see as pride-worthy.

Using that meaning of the word, I myself am not "proud" to be white. There is nothing I personally did to make it happen. I can see that those of us who hold this point of view find it odd that someone could feel pride over something they had no part in providing for themself. I also feel that those types of specific qualities are more something that you can be happy about.

But to be "proud" of your Caucasian skin...you might as well also say you are proud to have five toes or you're proud of your elbow. You see how weird that sounds? That's how weird it sounds to me for someone to say they have pride in being white.

I agree 100%

 

[Elle]

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this whole thread now.

 

[Breath]

The thread has gone exactly the way a debate thread is supposed to go. There are 2 sides, and each side is presenting their viewpoints. I think it's been pretty enlightening myself.

 

[skyblue]

ok.......as i've stated earlier.......i'm proud to be a white anglo saxon male from a small island in the north atlantic.......but,and its a big but.......the earliest proof of man was found on the southern tip of africa.......which means that as man as a species is a natural traveller,and evolved to suit his chosen climate when he did travel.....so if he found himself in a cooler climate eventually he he would have been paler.......so if thats a fact inherently we're all just offspring of black africans anyway

 

[Cotton]

No one has answered my question...

 

[skyblue]

So is ok for blacks to be proud of being black? I mean because they scream it from the mountain top, yet no one accuses them of being racist. Why is it when a white person is proud, they're racist?

its not racist......everyone should be proud of they're heritage and what its achieved

 

[Dana]

ok.......as i've stated earlier.......i'm proud to be a white anglo saxon male from a small island in the north atlantic.......but,and its a big but.......the earliest proof of man was found on the southern tip of africa.......which means that as man as a species is a natural traveller,and evolved to suit his chosen climate when he did travel.....so if he found himself in a cooler climate eventually he he would have been paler.......so if thats a fact inherently we're all just offspring of black africans anyway

Opening up the book of evolution is a route that'll take this thread onto 20 more pages

 

[COOL_BREEZE2]

Apparently this whole "debate" all hinges upon what your connotations are for being "proud". I've seen various valid definitions of the word.

I am on the side of the fence that attributes pride to being a good feeling that is the result of an accomplishment. You can be proud of a job you did. You can be proud of your child's academia. You can be proud that you reached an athletic goal. Those are the types of things I see as pride-worthy.

Using that meaning of the word, I myself am not "proud" to be white. There is nothing I personally did to make it happen. I can see that those of us who hold this point of view find it odd that someone could feel pride over something they had no part in providing for themself. I also feel that those types of specific qualities are more something that you can be happy about.

But to be "proud" of your Caucasian skin...you might as well also say you are proud to have five toes or you're proud of your elbow. You see how weird that sounds? That's how weird it sounds to me for someone to say they have pride in being white.

I'm proud of my ten toes and I'm proud of my penis.

 

[All Else Failed]

I am so proud of my nasal mucus guys. I mean, its who I am.

There's nothing wrong with being proud of your skin color. I AM proud to be white. I'm proud to be white because my whole life I had to hear what white people did wrong to other races instead of what good they actually done for this country. My other reason is because I like to to say I'm proud to be white because I know sensitive race equality people like will question it and try to make me look down on my own race.
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White people have done wrong to other peoples, its not like that fact is going away anytime soon. White people have done good, don't get me wrong, but their advancements should only have a net worth and not because they had more or less pigment in their skin.

Skin color is so irrelevant and frankly its sad that you would be proud of such a minuscule thing. Are you proud of your pubic hair color? Are you proud of how your asshole looks? Thats just as important as skin color. Plus, you can't take pride in something you had no control over. Thats like saying your proud that the sun is shining. Both make little to no sense whatsoever. Don't you want to have pride in your accomplishments instead? You know, things that actually matter?


Oh, and there's no such thing as race. Its a social construct.

Well Im proud and happy to be white. I like my skin color. Why shouldnt I? Im proud of my roots and the other white folks I come from. I dont get this mentallity and truth be told will never get it that I should feel guilty for being white. Im sorry I just dont and it irritates me when people take that as racist. If you look at me and me being proud of my color and it disgusts you or makes you mad enough to assume Im a racist then the problem really isnt with me.

Everyone should find pride in there heritage and be comfortable and like there skin color. People should be proud of who they come from and there family history. White people shouldnt be an exception to this.

No see that isn't pride. That is thankfulness. You CANNOT be proud of something you had no control over. Its a logical fallacy.

I don't see it as racist, I just see it as being nonsensical and irrelevant.


There should be no such thing as pride in race. Race doesn't exist.

 

[COOL_BREEZE2]

I am so proud of my nasal mucus guys. I mean, its who I am.

Good for you. Be proud. It's yours.

 

[All Else Failed]

Good for you. Be proud. It's yours.

You missed my point. Being proud of gland secretions is just as silly as being proud over your skin color. Its stupid.

i dont think there is a most racist race. possssibly people from afghanistan/iraq area but i dont know so i cant say.

What makes you say that?

Making judgments off of ethnicity to say something about an entire people is actually racism. Oops.

So is ok for blacks to be proud of being black? I mean because they scream it from the mountain top, yet no one accuses them of being racist. Why is it when a white person is proud, they're racist?

No its also severely stupid for blacks to be proud of their skin color as well.

 

[Tim]

So is ok for blacks to be proud of being black? I mean because they scream it from the mountain top, yet no one accuses them of being racist. Why is it when a white person is proud, they're racist?

I think it's just as foolish for a black man to be proud of being black as a white man is for being white. But where in this thread did anyone mention black people? If there were an African American, Jamaican, Nairobian, etc. that said in this thread that they were proud to be black, I would have made the same points since my first post.

So be your logic, the blacks who scream from the mountain top that they are proud to be black, are racist... then so goes the same for whites... right?

And just as some white people ARE racist when they shout out that they are proud of being white, the same goes for every other skin color.

 

[All Else Failed]

When people start to realize that things like your own creations, effort, achievements and goals are things to be proud of instead of genetic mutations of skin pigment, maybe, just maybe my faith in humanity will go up a few more points.

 

[Breath]

I am so proud of my nasal mucus guys. I mean, its who I am.

What a turn on, a man who's proud to be snotty. Makes this whole pride in skin color issue very clear.

 

[Tim]

I think the majority of the time people just mis use the word "proud" Nothing more, nothing less...

 

[All Else Failed]

What a turn on, a man who's proud to be snotty. Makes this whole pride in skin color issue very clear.

Oh tsk tsk I'm not that pretentious!

I think the majority of the time people just mis use the word "proud" Nothing more, nothing less...

To be proud and to take pride in something is to do so unto your own achievements. THAT is what pride is. People can cite other definitions alllll day, but that is what pride means.

What people are confusing in this thread is the word "thankful". People are thankful to be white because they like being privileged right off the bat over minorities at birth (theres really no denying that).

 

[COOL_BREEZE2]

You missed my point. Being proud of gland secretions is just as silly as being proud over your skin color. Its stupid.

You think I missed your point. I didn't.
I was simply humoring you.

I don't agree with you on this but what the heck. To each his own. It's all good.

 

[COOL_BREEZE2]

I think the majority of the time people just mis use the word "proud" Nothing more, nothing less...

The word has various meanings depending on context.

Which reminds me of discussions on religious text/prose/interpretation debates. Some choose to interpret one way while others choose otherwise...the same words. Interesting eh?

 

[satinbutterfly]

I think we should be proud of who we are because of what we do... not because of our color.

 

[All Else Failed]

I think we should be proud of who we are because of what we do... not because of our color.

How dare you bring common sense into this discussion!!!