Is it fair to arbitrarily increase punishment to your child?

[Greatest I am]

Is it fair to arbitrarily increase punishment to your child?

If you were to tell your child that if he or she did a certain sin or mistake, you would implement a certain punishment, and when that infraction took place, you added a number of extra punishment, would you think you were acting in a fair and just manner?

A scenario would go like this.
If you told your son, if you do not make your bed, I will ground you for 2 days.
That same day, he did not or refused to make his bed.
You confront him and say that he is grounded for 2 days. At the same time, you tell him that he is also grounded for a further week and also looses all T V privileges and must also do the dishes for a month.

Do you think you have dealt fairly with your child?

Regards
DL

 

[Peter Parka]

What's this got to do with religion or are you just waiting for a few replies before you show us that god has been doing that, or something?

 

[Springsteen]

It's impossible to draw a correlation between religion and punishment to a child because it's purely a case of being a parent, and what your views on punishment are, and also what the thing was that the child did. It's different from parent to parent. Depends on a whole lot of things, like what environment they were brought up in, like what media influences them, like what they were told about punishment in School.

 

[porterjack]

totally unfair

a deal is a deal

 

[Greatest I am]

What's this got to do with religion or are you just waiting for a few replies before you show us that god has been doing that, or something?

Theist tend to bob and weave and not answer simple questions directly and yes, I am waiting for a theist or two with clear answers before I show the religious relevance.

Care to give your answer and perhaps let us know your belief system?

Regards
DL

 

[Greatest I am]

It's impossible to draw a correlation between religion and punishment to a child because it's purely a case of being a parent, and what your views on punishment are, and also what the thing was that the child did. It's different from parent to parent. Depends on a whole lot of things, like what environment they were brought up in, like what media influences them, like what they were told about punishment in School.

Well, the Bible certainly uses the father card often enough and as to your other conditions, if someone cannot give an answer to this quite simple scenario then where ever their information and morals come from, they should look elsewhere.

What exactly is preventing you from a simple answer to this simple question.

Regards
DL

 

[Greatest I am]

totally unfair

a deal is a deal

Ah. A clear answer that those above should have emulated.
Thanks for showing that there is a least one here who can add 2 + 2.

Are you a theist BTW?

Regards
DL

 

[Peter Parka]

Theist tend to bob and weave and not answer simple questions directly and yes, I am waiting for a theist or two with clear answers before I show the religious relevance.

Care to give your answer and perhaps let us know your belief system?

Regards
DL

Well I would say it's unfair. My beliefs - I'm an agnostic, I think it's highly unlikely there is a god but I wouldn't completely rule it out.

 

[Springsteen]

I did, I said that the punishment system varies from parent to parent. No parent is the same, some believe in spanking their child, some believe in locking their child in their bedroom for 3 days, some in banning them from their PC for a week, some believe in...I could go on. It also depends on what they did. Let's say a child went on Facebook and posted "I hate niggers and Jews", the parent would, in all probability, ban them from using Facebook. I mean they might get a beating, but the banning from FB would be the primary punishment.

So there's no right or wrong way of punishing a child, because it varies from parent to parent.

Now on punishments. I don't condone violent beatings towards a child and I also believe that a child should be encouraged to do good thing, I'm not talking about bribes but something like "Oh that's a good thing you did, keep on with that". And the child would know right from wrong, but then we're entering into an entirely different debate.

 

[porterjack]

Are you a theist BTW?

Regards
DL

no I am not - more of a Humanist, that is i believe we make our own beds and lie accordingly

 

[freakofnature]

If there's one thing I learned as a child it's that fair does not apply to parents.

 

[Peter Parka]

I did, I said that the punishment system varies from parent to parent. No parent is the same, some believe in spanking their child, some believe in locking their child in their bedroom for 3 days, some in banning them from their PC for a week, some believe in...I could go on. It also depends on what they did. Let's say a child went on Facebook and posted "I hate niggers and Jews", the parent would, in all probability, ban them from using Facebook. I mean they might get a beating, but the banning from FB would be the primary punishment.

So there's no right or wrong way of punishing a child, because it varies from parent to parent.

Now on punishments. I don't condone violent beatings towards a child and I also believe that a child should be encouraged to do good thing, I'm not talking about bribes but something like "Oh that's a good thing you did, keep on with that". And the child would know right from wrong, but then we're entering into an entirely different debate.

I think you may have missed his point, I dont think he was talking about punishment differing from child to child but more, if you tell a child, this is your punishment but then go on to increase it.

 

[porterjack]

If there's one thing I learned as a child it's that fair does not apply to parents.

surprised you can remember that far back

 

[Springsteen]

Ah well that depends. If you tell the child the first part of what he said but then the child says "fuck you dad" then the parent might be enraged enough to increase the punishment.

But if you're just doing it because you can...well, I don't know. He is your kid, therefore you can punish him as much as you want because you are in that position of authority, but it could lead to the kid getting worse because of the fact that the parent is just, in his eyes, abusing their authority.

Also

surprised you can remember that far back

 

[Roxi]

Hate to say it but due to lack of respect its fair, adding the fact that the child showed no regard to there parents authority and disrespected it would be grounds for harsher punishment imo

 

[Tuffdisc]

Is it fair to arbitrarily increase punishment to your child?

If you were to tell your child that if he or she did a certain sin or mistake, you would implement a certain punishment, and when that infraction took place, you added a number of extra punishment, would you think you were acting in a fair and just manner?

A scenario would go like this.
If you told your son, if you do not make your bed, I will ground you for 2 days.
That same day, he did not or refused to make his bed.
You confront him and say that he is grounded for 2 days. At the same time, you tell him that he is also grounded for a further week and also looses all T V privileges and must also do the dishes for a month.

Do you think you have dealt fairly with your child?

Regards
DL

According to Christianity, it tells the children to respect their parents, but tells the parents not to frustrate the children

 

[freakofnature]

surprised you can remember that far back

Just because you can't doesn't meant that other people are the same way.

 

[Greatest I am]

Well I would say it's unfair. My beliefs - I'm an agnostic, I think it's highly unlikely there is a god but I wouldn't completely rule it out.

And who said not believers had no morals?

Regards
DL

 

[Guyzerr]

Well I would say it's unfair. My beliefs - I'm an agnostic, I think it's highly unlikely there is a god but I wouldn't completely rule it out.

Um.... Peter.... if there was a God he would have allowed the kid to die during the punishment dealt by the parent.

 

[Greatest I am]

I did, I said that the punishment system varies from parent to parent. No parent is the same, some believe in spanking their child, some believe in locking their child in their bedroom for 3 days, some in banning them from their PC for a week, some believe in...I could go on. It also depends on what they did. Let's say a child went on Facebook and posted "I hate niggers and Jews", the parent would, in all probability, ban them from using Facebook. I mean they might get a beating, but the banning from FB would be the primary punishment.

So there's no right or wrong way of punishing a child, because it varies from parent to parent.

Now on punishments. I don't condone violent beatings towards a child and I also believe that a child should be encouraged to do good thing, I'm not talking about bribes but something like "Oh that's a good thing you did, keep on with that". And the child would know right from wrong, but then we're entering into an entirely different debate.

That's right it is.

As to corporeal punishment; man should remember that he learned and used the tool of speech, before he learned the use of force.

He might ask himself why he has allowed himself to revert to the second, less helpful tool.
A parent that uses force is showing that he is not raising his child up to a better standard but is bringing himself down to a lower one.

The parent is admitting that he forgot to think himself out of the dilemma and now must eat crow and use his body instead of his mind.

Regards
DL